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YFZ Raid: Confiscating All of the Children of an American Community

These are my notes for the FLDS group, and the 2008 YFZ Ranch Raid. There is a very clear line between who the good guys and bad guys were in this, and it's not easy to find. America never found out what really happened. It is a heart breaking story on the magnitude of the Australian aborigine Lost Generations and abuses of the Indian Boarding Schools when children from entire communities would be confiscated from cultures deemed to be substandard in morals. Essentially the State of Texas sought to permanently separate a generation of children from their families over their marriage beliefs, using a bogus phone call to set in place a phony investigation and fishing expedition. Fortunately the constitution prevailed over a political agenda.


posted: http://docs.google.com/https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZd_BaQPgLcSZGZ0aHg3cTRfMTMxNmNqcGhqM2Z3
http://tinyurl.com/TheFlowersCriedInTexas
and www.arthurhu.com/book/flds/The_Flowers_Cried_Contents.html |
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The Flowers Cried in Texas


A Book by Arthur Hu about the Eldorado Yearning For Zion Ranch Raid and investigation
Please send comments or information about publishing on your website/blog/newspaper/publisher to arthurhu *at* hufamily *dot* com.

© October 2008-2009
 

Timeline Calendar with links to notes

 

March/April 2008

   
sun mon tue wed thu fri sat
March 23242526272829 Sarah calls San Angelo shelter
30 "Laura" calls Flora in Arizona31 CPS notifies law enforcementApril 1 Gov Perry notified of CPS, Texas Ranger plan2 Long interviews shelter3 SWAT team deploys 5PM. CPS vists YFZ interviews girls after 10PM4 12PM SWAT raid
custody Eldorado shelter in Baptist church

5 temple standoff

     

6 Fort Concho opened / Eldorado closed7 All children taken / Crowded shelter / "internment camp for interrogation"8 Mothers cooperate with CPS / Chickenpox /  husband beat her / phones returned

9 Deprived of nutrition..

Tornado

Crying Girl

10 "not hostile"

mothers get lawyers

Horror of Child Sex Cult

Chalk "go home"

11 Cyanide Poison

Parents turned back from children

Arizona Raid

 

12
Deseret News invited to ranch

Secret cell phone call

Barlow off the hook

13 cell phones taken

14Close fort concho / All taken to Coliseum

Partial separation from mothers

15 Mothers tell: Your children are ours16 Already kidnapped from fathers /  People judge from their own hearts / while there were tears...17 hearing 1 / Swinton Arrested / King: confusion reigns 18 Hearing 2 cps custody 19 Headline: All must be placed in foster care
20 CBS: Finding the Truth21 1000 CPS workers / Fabricated story / 6 from Bountiful Canada22 Older children locked arms and sang when separated / Children transported to foster care23 TV:Lost Boys / Only infants stay with mothers / 24 100 troopers / Terrible Separation Day / Rangers were crying / 60 women left waving SOS signs / 911 linked to Swinton /  Azar: hoax does not matter / 25 more mothers under 1825 Last children bussed away, Coliseum closed down. "A very good day for the children"26 Culture of the ranch was a danger

27 No weapons of mass destruction (false rumours)

 

28 Judge Andrew Napolitano: mass sweeping arrests unlawful29 Pamela Jeffs gives birth. More than half of teen girls "are pregnant or mothers", FLDS says "eyeball test" used.30 CPS insists P Jeffs is a minor. 3 of 4 removed was 4 yrs or younger. 3 children in hospitalMay 123
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Contents (organized as google documents)
0 Forward Who is the monster and who is the victim?
1 A Desperate Cry for Help Sarah Barlow is raped and beaten and needs help
2 Rescue Plan  A Plan to rescue one child, or an entire village?
3 Protect the Children Past midnight, Angie Voss determines "It is not a safe place for children"
4 The Big Raid Call in the SWAT team and tank
5 Eldorado's New Neighbors FLDS moves in,  the next Waco disaster?
6 Protective Custody Rescue from one alleged concentration camp into another concentration camp
7 Temple Standoff Men stand in front of the SWAT tank praying, crying
8 Child Protective Services: The Best Interests of the Child:  (This is how CPS treats/abuses EVERYBODY)
9 Sun April 6: Bus Trip to San Angelo Families are taken from an overcrowded shelter in Eldorado and ranch to overcrowded internment camp in Fort Concho 
10 Mon April 7: Zion at Fort ConchoThe last children are taken, all are placed into temporary state custody
11 Tue April 8: Polygamist Cult Rife With Child Abuse Swinton's lies about YFZ make world headlines.
12 Wed April 9: The Children Are In Good Health Children who are sick and scared are pronounced healthy and happy
13 Thu April 10: They're Coming To Get Me!Horror of the Texas Child Sex Cult Ranch!
11 Internment Camps (Short Creek Raid, The Australian Stolen Generations, Indian Schools, Japanese Americans, and Axis Camps)
14 Fri April 11:
15 Sat April 12: Crying and Screaming
16 Sun April 13:
17 Mon April 14:
Two-day hearing (Every child will be given an individual hearing NOT)
San Angelo Coliseum (Tule Lake in Texas)
Media Insurgency (The FLDS appeals for their children)
Sarah is found (Swinton is the Fraud Caller)
Even the Rangers Cried (The Most Terrible Day: Separation from Coliseum)
Diaspora (Foster Homes)
Two More Children (CPS stands guard to snatch babies from pregnant ADULT mothers)
Appeals Court
Supreme Court
Free
Aftermath
 
   
Timeline
Appendix: Mental Health Worker Testimony About Mistreatment of FLDS Mothers and Children
Appendix: Directory of Terms and Names
 

Arthur Hu's Asian Week Columns:

Little Polygamist Compound On the Prairie April 24, 2008
Free the Texas 464 May 19, 2008 
Thank God Almghty, Free at Last from Texas Child Protective Services June 17, 2008  
YFZ Ranch Raid Storyboard Short version of the story with pictures 
 
See my video (originally to SWAT theme, but don't have the rights)
Youtube Video: Little Polygamist Compound on the Prairie Swat Raid
 
  

Blogs and Websites

FLDS View
The Truth Will Prevail
http://www.dipity.com/timeline/Zion-Ranch
 
 

CPS websites

MHMR statements

Court Documents


Notes
Rozita Swinton
Angie Voss
 

http://docs.google.com/https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_1028cr36b9cd

FLDS Raid Notes

See the book "Flowers Cried in Texas"

Contents


General Links

from http://bedrockof87.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/virtual-flds-petition/

 

  1. W. Kenneth Law, Bob Pemberton, Alan Waldrop - Justices of the Texas Court of Appeals, Third District (required reading)
  2. Mental Health Worker #1 (required reading)
  3. Mental Health Worker #2 (required reading)
  4. Mental Health Worker #3 (required reading)
  5. Mental Health Worker #4 (required reading)
  6. Mental Health Worker #5 (required reading)
  7. Mental Health Worker #6 (required reading)
  8. Mental Health Worker #7 (required reading)
  9. Mental Health Worker #8 (required reading)
  10. Mental Health Worker #9 (required reading)
  11. Mental Health Worker #10 (required reading)
  12. Mental Health Worker #11 (required reading)
  13. 2583 signers and counting - “Free the Innocent FLDS” Petition
  14. Nicholas Lollini - Editor-in-Chief of The Spectator
  15. Michelle Rollins - Author of editorial letter to Salt Lake Tribune
  16. Pamela Jean - Citizen Journalist
  17. Scott Henson - “Grits for Breakfast” Blogger
  18. David Bernstein - Professor at George Mason University School of Law
  19. Ben Stein - CBS Contributor
  20. Kristin Wright - posting on ParentalRights.org
  21. Linda F. Smith - Professor at University of Utah College of Law
  22. Nicole D. Hoff - Certified Lactation Counselor
  23. Joseph Farah - Nationally Syndicated Columnist
  24. Guy Murray - “Messenger and Advocate” Blogger
  25. Laura Gough - Author of editorial letter to The Dallas Morning News





@@Abduction


http://www.agreka.com/about_elizabeth_smart_on_polygamy.htm but the
abduction of teenaged girls within the polygamist subculture is a
common occurrence. According to dissidents from the FLDS
[Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]
headquartered at Colorado City, Arizona, abductions go on all the
time.  The latest is Ruby Jessop, age 14


@@Abuse, allegations


TWO THIRDS OF FAMILIES HAD ABUSED / NEGLECTED CHILDREN 
Texas report: Abuse widespread in polygamist sect
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD958IDLG0
By MICHELLE ROBERTS – 1 day ago 12/23/08
SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Nearly two-thirds of the families living at a polygamist group's ranch — targeted in a high-profile raid last spring — had children who were abused or neglected, Texas child welfare officials said in a report released Tuesday.
The Department of Family and Protective Services concluded there was evidence that 12 girls, ages 12 to 15, were "spiritually" married to adult men in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which runs the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado. Seven of them had one or more children, the report says.
Another 262 children were listed as neglected because the agency said their parents knew there was sexual abuse in the household but did not move to protect their children from possible abuse.
[gd:flds notes dec 23, 2008]
Complete Report - 21 page pdf
http://static.cbslocal.com/station/ktvt/docs/2008/december/Eldorado_Investigation_Report.pdf
see priv\flds\documents

DEPRIVED OF NUTRITION, FORCED TO SIT IN CLOSETS, DENIED EDUCATION

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040904065.html
Documents Offer Details On Practices At Ranch By Sylvia Moreno
Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 10, 2008; Page A02 SAN
ANGELO, Tex., April 9 Court documents released late Tuesday also said
children at the ranch "are deprived of nutrition as a method of
punishment, as well as being forced to sit in closed closets as a
method of punishment." (this based on a fraud, unverified phone call)
In a petition asking for a court order to remove the children from the
compound, officials said a number of the children who were interviewed
were not able to provide the names of their biological parents or such
information as their birth dates or birthplaces.

Conclusion - All are false allegations based only on fradulent phone
call.  CPS forced a boy to sit in a closet all night in Eldorado.

%%Education

DEPRIVED OF NUTRITION, FORCED TO SIT IN CLOSETS, DENIED EDUCATION

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040904065.html
Documents Offer Details On Practices At Ranch By Sylvia Moreno
Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 10, 2008; Page A02 SAN
"The Department is concerned about the possibility that some of these
children have been denied a proper education," the petition said. 

Conclusion - tests showed children tested above state average,
children in Eldorado scored well below average. Agency did NOT provide
for education while children were in custody, saying that it was more
important they be placed in "normal" living circumstances.

%%Violence

FLORA: THEY BEAT YOU. THEY WHIP YOU. THEY BRUTALIZE YOU AND THEY PSYCHOLOGICALLY DESTROY YOU
http://texaslastfrontier.com/prairie_fire_journal/blog1.php/2008/04/24/arrest-of-rosita-swinton-raises-new-ques
Flora Jessop: "I know first-hand that what this little girl is saying
is the absolute truth, and that she is in imminent danger. They do
lock you up. They beat you. They whip you. They brutalize you and they
psychologically destroy you. Most of the children would not be able to
withstand the psychological torture that they put you through." said.
(Never verified to have happened at the YFZ ranch)

%%worse

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:I0kv5ojwjawJ:gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/yfz-kids-abused-and-neglected-under-cps.html+%22Lee+Roy+Jessop%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

doran said...  Ten Things that happen to kids which are worse than
sexual abuse:

1. Being drowned to death by their mother.

2. Suffering a skull fracture by being beaten.

3. Suffering brain damage by being shaken.

4. Suffering broken ribs, broken legs, and broken arms by being
beaten.

5. Gunshot wounds.

6. Being kidnapped by strangers, and placed in the custody of
strangers.

7. Being separated for what seems like forever from brothers and
sisters, fathers and mothers.

8. Being dropped out of high windows.

9. Being savagely chewed on by dogs.

10. Being scalded.

I've either seen all these things in my practice,or have seen them
reported.

5/14/2008 02:02:00 PM  
kbp said... 

11. Grounded from the X-Box AND Play Station for a week.

Threw that in for humor on a slow day, but some kids might agree with it.


@@Abuse, CPS

According to Marie Musser, the children never suffered abuse until
they suffered at the hands of CPS. Others agree.

%%Family Support Center

"The children, no doubt, suffered extreme psychological abuse at the
hands of the people who were seeing themselves as rescuers."

"Texas harming FLDS children, Utah group says"
By James Thalman
Deseret News 
Published: April 22, 2008
deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695272632,00.html
Texas authorities' attempts to save children from being abused at the
YFZ Ranch are doing much more harm than good for the 437 children they
removed from the FLDS Church property, a Utah child welfare advocacy
group said Monday.  A byproduct of actions by child protective
services in Texas is exposing children to a special kind of trauma,
fear and mistrust that they are likely to have not known were it not
for the raid at the compound, said Bonnie L. Peters, executive
director of The Family Support Center.  While well-meaning, removing
the children and keeping them sequestered "is not in the best interest
of the children and will have devastating effects on their mental
health," she said, starting with the heavily armed Texas law
enforcement officers who arrived at the ranch of the Fundamentalist
LDS Church in SWAT gear. 

the public should keep in mind that the Texas CPS workers have placed
the children in an isolated compound, in absolute secrecy, at risk of
abuse and barred from contact with the outside world.  "That's what
CPS said they were protecting the children from in the first place,"
he said.

%%Interogation

- Children interrogated past midnight for 6 hours

%%MOTHERS

WE ARE BEING TREATED LIKE THE JEWS IN NAZI CAMPS
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/15/sect.mothers/#cnnSTCText Tue April
15, 2008 State now a danger to children, sect's mothers say
the state is placing their children in greater danger by exposing them
to things they would have never seen at the ranch.  "They are clean
and pure," one mother said of the children. "This is the worst thing
happening to them. They are learning terrible things from the
questions being asked, things that they have never been exposed to.
They have been so protected here

@@Abuse, Lack of Evidence

"There is simply no evidence specific to the
children at all"
http://www.cesnur.org/2009/slc_wiseman.htm
State-Sanctioned Raids and Government Violations of Religious Freedom:
Revealing Similarities of Constitutional Errors in Both the 1984
Island Pond Raid and the 2008 FLDS Raid by Jean Swankto Wiseman
(Attorney, Chattanooga, Tennessee)
“There is no evidence that the mothers have allowed or are going to
allow any of their minor female children to be subjected to any sexual
or physical abuse. There is simply no evidence specific to the
children at all except that they exist, they were taken into custody
at the Yearning for Zion Ranch, and they are living with people who
share a ‘pervasive belief system’ that condones underage marriage and
underage pregnancy.” In re: Sara Steed, et al, supra

@@ACLU

http://www.acluutah.org/texasFLDraid.htm A Chronological History of
the ACLU Response to the Texas FLDS Raid 

On April 3, 2008, Texas law enforcement officials obtained a search
warrant related to the suspected sexual assault of a child and then
conducted a raid on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas. 

Texas Supreme Court Calls Removal Of Children From Yearning For Zion
Ranch “Unwarranted” - Ruling Concurs With ACLU Position Posted 5/29/08
- The Texas Supreme Court today agreed with the American Civil
Liberties Union that the state failed to provide evidence sufficient
to justify its removal of children from 38 mothers at the Yearning For
Zion Ranch (YFZ) in Eldorado.

Read More >> 

ACLU Brief at Texas Supreme Court: State Can’t Separate Families Based
Solely On Beliefs - Brief Highlights Due Process Rights Of Families
Impacted in FLDS Case Posted 5/29/08 - The American Civil Liberties
Union and the ACLU of Texas today submitted a friend of the court
brief with the Texas Supreme Court opposing a petition from the Texas
Department of Family and Protective Services (TDFPS) to retain custody
of the children of 38 mothers from the Yearning For Zion Ranch (YFZ)
in ElDorado, Texas.

Read More >>

ACLU Statement On Texas Appellate Court Decision Regarding Yearning
For Zion Ranch Posted 5/22/08 - The ACLU applauds the Texas Third
Court of Appeals for ensuring that members of the Fundamental Church
of Latter-day Saints receive the due process to which they, like all
Americans, are entitled. 

Read More >> 

National ACLU Statement on the Texas raid of FLDS Ranch Posted
05/02/08 - On April 3, 2008, Texas law enforcement officials obtained
a search warrant related to the suspected sexual assault of a child
and then conducted a raid on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas. Based
upon news reports and other available information, the ACLU has
serious concerns that the state’s actions so far have not adequately
protected the fundamental rights at stake. 

Read the whole statement >> 

ACLU of Texas Observing FLDS Custody Hearings in San Angelo Posted
04/18/08 - A representative of the ACLU of Texas is in San Angelo
observing the custody hearings currently underway concerning the 416
children of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FDLS) that
were taken into state custody. 

Read more >> 

The ACLU Responds to Texas FLDS Raid Posted 4/16/08 - The ACLU of Utah
has received many inquiries from the public and media regarding our
position on the April 3rd raid which took 416 Fundamentalist Latter
Day Saints children into state custody after allegations of some
sexual and physical abuse. Karen McCreary, Executive Director of the
ACLU of Utah, states, "The government has the obligation to protect
children from danger, and the obligation to do so constitutionally,
particularly given the impact on this community." The ACLU of Texas is
following the situation. 


@@Accompany children

Carolyn Jessop in Escape says that mothers were allowed to come
because there were not enough people to take care of the children in
Short Creek.

CPS WOULD NOT ALLOW MOTHERS TO ACCOMPANY CHILDREN
Lawmakers tackle FLDS raid
One year later, the gov't procedure is discussed
Updated: Tuesday, 14 Apr 2009, 6:52 PM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 14 Apr 2009, 12:59 PM CDT
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/texas/Lawmakers_tackle_FLDS_raid
Video at the link
Heilingenstein said if the situation were to happen again, she would
still have the agency remove all the children. The only difference she
would make is prohibit any mothers from accompanying the children into
state custody. However, she said after parenting classes and
counseling sessions with the families, she believes the children are
now safe with their parents


@@Adams, Brooke

Brooke Adams
covers polygamy for
The Salt Lake Tribune
To contact Brooke:
(801) 257-8724
or email brooke@sltrib.com



@@Affadavit

Sarah's Story:
PDF] CAUSE NO. IN THE INTEREST OF IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF SCHLEICHER ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View
Persons' Names Unknown or as listed under parties in the Petition. YFZ Ranch,. Eldorado, Schleicher County, Texas. "To the best of my knowledge, ...
web.gosanangelo.com/pdf/affidavit.pdf -
http://web.gosanangelo.com/pdf/affidavit.pdf (not an image)


@@Aftermath

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/hamilton/20090416.html
Taking Stock of the 2008 Intervention at the Texas Fundamentalist
Latter-Day Saints Compound On Its One-Year Anniversary: The Lessons We
Must Learn to Effectively Protect Children in the Future By MARCI A.
HAMILTON Thursday, April 16, 2009 " The authorities' concerns were
triggered by a (certainly fradulent) call to a hotline, and
(mistakenly thought they had ) confirmed when they entered the
compound to discover a significant number of underage mothers – who
were, plainly, victims of statutory rape -- and clear evidence of
bigamy involving underage persons, a first-degree felony in Texas. Not
only did CPS have clear visual evidence of these crimes, but it also
had written records showing that girls had been married off to much
older men, even after those men had taken other spouses, and some
disturbing pictures, including one particularly disgusting one of
their prophet, Warren Jeffs (who is now in jail on other charges),
passionately kissing a 12-year-old girl who was sitting on his lap.
The promise of the YFZ raid to free oppressed children, though, was
never fully realized. All of the children but one has been returned.
As I discussed in a prior column, the Texas appellate courts bear much
of the responsibility. They refused to back up CPS's actions, because
they discounted the claims that girls had been victims of statutory
rape, if those girls were over the legal age of consent at the time of
the raid. "



Live from the FLDS hearing in Austin By Paul A. Anthony (Contact)
Originally published 01:26 p.m., April 14, 2009 Updated 02:46 p.m.,
April 14, 2009
http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/apr/14/live-from-the-flds-hearing-in-02/
AUSTIN - 2:21 p.m.: Staunchly defending the decisions of her
predecessor, the leading official of the state's child-welfare agency
said the $12.5 million spent on last year's raid of the YFZ Ranch "was
definitely worth it," and that the hundreds of children removed from
the polygamous compound are safer today than before the state action.

why the Department of Family and Protective Services dropped 438
of the 439 children it removed from its case, Commissioner Anne
Heiligenstein said those decisions were made in the best interests of
those children.  "I would argue that money was definitely worth it,"
she said in response to questions by San Angelo Republican Drew Darby.
"The actions we took I believe changed the behavior of that
organization," the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day
Saints.

Even in the face of a pair of state appellate court rulings that
rejected the state's reasoning for removing all the children from the
YFZ Ranch, Heiligenstein said she would have taken the same initial
steps.

"Quite frankly, I think that was a sound decision," she said of the
request to remove all the children from the ranch. "There was no way
to tell which children were victims, which weren't. I respectfully beg
to differ with the court's decision."  

"Even if it protected one other child from that type of abuse,"
Heiligenstein replied, "I think it was worth it. That investigation
has assured that many, many more children will not suffer abuse."


Lawmakers tackle FLDS raid
One year later, the gov't procedure is discussed
Updated: Tuesday, 14 Apr 2009, 6:52 PM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 14 Apr 2009, 12:59 PM CDT
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/texas/Lawmakers_tackle_FLDS_raid
Video at the link
However, Heilingenstein said if the situation were to happen again,
she would still have the agency remove all the children. The only
difference she would make is prohibit any mothers from accompanying
the children into state custody.


The FLDS Side 

Spokersperson for the FLDS sect, Willie Jessop, gave the House
committee a drastically different account of the state's actions on
April 3, 2008.

"The government had an agenda and it didn't matter what the truth
was," said Jessop. "They came onto the ranch with tanks and guns and
based their investigation on information they knew was false."

Jessop said a report that will be filed on Wednesday in preparation
for suppression hearings in May will shed more light on the state's
actions.

"In the depositions, investigators said they started searching the
area hours before they had a search warrant even signed."

Jessop said the mass removal of children displayed the state's
disregard for citizens' rights.

"State lawmakers have been quoted several times as wanting to get us
out of Texas and they'll do anything they have to in order to
accomplish that," he said



@@Age determination

Birth Certificates and Drivers licence could not be used to prove age, they
looked at the girls to make the determination. Some were as old as 35.

%%Identification

According to Brooke Adams, Salt Lake Tribune polygamy reporter, Judge
Walther denied birth certificates as proof of identification &/or age.
http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/04/identity-theft.htm

%%Sight

JUDGE CUTS OFF QUESTION ABOUT VOSS ABILITY TO TELL AGE BY SIGHT
LIVE FROM THE COURTHOUSE: Day 2 of updates from FLDS custody hearing
Trish Choate
Originally published 11:00 a.m., April 18, 2008
http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/18/live-from-the-courthouse-day-2-of-updates-from/
Another parents' attorney wants to know whether Voss has established
her expertise in domestic violence and determining the age of a person
"by sight."
No, Voss says.
You have no expertise in determining a woman's age by sight? the
attorney says again. She goes on to say Voss has "magically"
determined ages. The attorney wants to establish this isn't credible
testimony.
"We're kind of creeping into argument," the judge says.
She tries to redirect the hearing to information that would allow her
to figure out whether the children should go back to their parents.
The judge ends up cutting off the parents' attorney.  10:11 a.m. -

http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/
That these females don’t look over 18 to CPS workers means diddly.  I
have a 25 year old daughter who is regularly taken for 15 or 16, and a
23 year old likewise, and once or twice somebody has guessed that she
was 12. They aren’t all 16. Ross says there are 10 girls between the
ages of 16 and 19 who are married, five of whom are pregnant or have
children. So first of all, I don’t even know what the 19 year old(s)
are doing on that list. That’s an adult.  SEcondly, at least one of
them is a married to a 17 year old, not an old man. We don’t know
about any of the others because the CPS witness says she ‘doesn’t
know’ if she’s ascertained whether or not any of the young men 17 and
under are involved with the girls.
Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/18/2008 @ 12:13 pm 

http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/07/flds-july-10th.html
ONE OF OUR DEAR MOTHERS WAS 35
It was amazing to watch one of our dear mothers whose age was 35. CPS
had refused to let her see an attorney because they had judged her to
be under 18. Then at this point, they took her 11-year-old son away
from her and sent him with the group of boys. It seemed that whenever
any treacherous act was performed, they would then and there decide
what age we were to justify their deeds. At one point, the CPS workers
told this dear mother, “You should feel complimented by how young you
look.” The mother replied, “That does no good for me in this
situation.”

@@Alamo, Tony

Convicted pastor says he's 'one of the prophets'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/ap_on_re_us/us_evangelist_child_abuse
"His five victims sat looking forward in the gallery. One, a woman he
"married" at age 8, wiped away a tear.


@@Allen, Laurie

Lori Allen -- she was raised in polygamist enclaves, first left when
she was 16. She kept coming back on and off, even entering a
polygamist marriage as a third wife, made the break at 32. And she's
the maker of the documentary film, "Banking On Heaven: Polygamy in the
Heartland of the American West."

"FIRST THEY RAPE YOUR MIND THEN THEY RAPE YOUR BODY, THEN THEY SAY YOU
ARE A CONSENTING ADULT" CNN LARRY KING LIVE Polygamy: Real-Life
Nightmare or Tight-Knit Family?  Aired April 9, 2008 - 21:00
transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/09/lkl.01.html



@@Alvarez, Mary Lou

http://quiz.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/lkl.01.html
CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Polygamy: Shocking Testimony
April 17, 2008 
Texas Rio Grande Legal Aid Represented 5 YFZ mothers it's the state's burden to present the case.
And I'm defending the mothers against the allegations. And right now,
I haven't heard any allegations to defend against.




@@Anderson, Andy

status:Villian

Pastor of Eldorado Baptist Church: "If even one person was salvaged
from child abuse, I think it was worth it". Criticized for being so
eager to volunteer their church buses to deliver the kids into the
evil hands of the state. Called squalid Fort Concho "adequate
housing".

IF EVEN ONE PERSON COULD BE SALVAGED FROM CHILD ABUSE, I
THINK IT WAS WORTH IT."
Trouble in the Hills Gretel C. Kovach and Andrew Murr Newsweek Web
Exclusive Apr 10, 2008 | Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET Apr 10, 2008
http://www.newsweek.com/id/131379/output/print "Numerous people are
going to have much better lives as a result of this raid," Anderson
said. "And if even one person could be salvaged from child abuse, I
think it was worth it."
Pastor Andy Anderson of First Baptist Church, which temporarily housed
some of the group. He and leaders of all the churches in town, which
far outnumber restaurants, had been waiting for years for this chance
to minister to them in Christ's name.
Residents and local businesses donated carts full of food and sodas,
boxes of teddy bears, and cots and cribs to the women and children at
the Eldorado shelters. 



@@Anonymous tip

IF AN ANONYMOUS TIP IS NEVER PROBABLE CAUSE...
comment on Polygamist Sect's Kids Face Health Issues Lack of
Vaccinations, Chickenpox Outbreak Among Medical Hurdles By DAN CHILDS
ABC News Medical Unit Apr. 11, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Germs/story?id=4633483&page=1
The Supreme Court of the United States has repeatedly ruled that an
anonymous tip is NEVER probable cause (one of the very few things they
have been able to get right in the last 100 years). Yet it is in this
case. Why is that? Where is this supposed 16 year old that called the
abuse hot line? Even if these Socialist moonbats could produce this
imaginary 16 year old; their so-called “probable cause” was still an
anonymous tip; by their own description . Again; how is that probable
cause? How absolutely outrageous. Under what authority do these
kidnappers hold 416 children? Are they claiming all of them are
sexually abused? Where are these children's parents? I have absolutely
no idea what was going on here. But I know probable cause when I see
it; & the absolute, total lack thereof; as well. This is a case of all
knowing, benevolent government; knowing what is best for these people.
These Statist whackos; who know what is best for these people, & their
children; are by far; the greatest evil; & the greatest threat to
freedom; this country has ever faced. Has the whole United States
forgotten; Waco Texas, & Ruby Ridge? As long as these hardcore
Marxists scream "Save the children"; the United States Constitution, &
the Bill of Rights; are of absolutely no consequence. Just remember:
Today it is this group of polygamists; these Marxist whackos are
persecuting; tomorrow it will be you. Bob Fletche I agree with this
guy 100% Posted by: mod70xtr2 9:20 PM

@@Anti-cult

"stereotypes increase public outrage against religious groups"
[lxxxi] In large part this was due to inflammatory and distorted press
coverage instigated by the anti-cult network.  Palmer (1988), Swantko
(1998), Wessinger (2006); “The label “cult” has been applied to both
the Branch Davidians and the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints at the
YFZ ranch. In both cases, media representatives have turned to
self-styled “cult experts,” who have no academic credentials in the
study of religions, to provide explanations associated with the
pejorative words “cult” and “brainwashing.” Such stereotypes increase
public outrage against religious groups and help to make the believers
seem like outsiders. Wessinger (2008) xiii] “Who Is Afraid of
Religious Minorities? The Social Construction of Moral Panic,” Massimo
Introvigne, CESNUR 1998, http://www.cesnur.org/testi/panic.htm,
Swantko (2008) supra fn 11, Error 10: State’s Position Reflects a
Misapprehension of the State’s Burden and the Limits of State Power,
Wessinger (2006)

“The role of the anti-FLDS network came to light in the press’s
investigation of the phone calls that apparently instigated the raid.
The calls, now widely regarded as a hoax, were made March 29 and 30 by
someone identifying herself as an underage bride and victim of abuse
named Sarah. On April 18, Ben Winslow of the Deseret News reported
that the caller had also contacted Flora Jessop, an anti-polygamy
activist and Joni Holm, a woman who helped children who had left the
FLDS. In the same article, Winslow reported that Rozita Swinton, the
33-year-old woman whom authorities believe was the most likely caller,
had a history of making such calls and identifying herself as a young
victim of sexual abuse. It is clear that her ruse gained traction
because of the widespread sense of suspicion about those at the YFZ
Ranch. As one neighbor, rancher Mary Leigh Donegan, told Pamela Manson
of the Salt Lake City Tribune in an April 4 story, “When anything is a
mystery, you get apprehensive.” The anti-FLDS activists gave that
vague apprehension a face and a rationale. Religion in the News,
Gallagher, supra fn 9.



@@Apostate narrative

http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/06/escape/ It sounds like an
interesting book. But I really have questions about how much we can
take away from it. 

There’s all sorts of research that’s been done on the reliability of
apostate narratives, and the general view is that they’re highly
unreliable. In particular, the more marginalized the group is from
mainstream society, the more likely exit narratives will pander to or
reinforce inaccurate perceptions about the group. 

(For a really interesting discussion, ask Armand Mauss some time about
the reliability of apostate narratives.)

This is a problem, of course, because for groups like the FLDS,
apostate narratives may be all that we’ve _got_ for some areas. 

Some people have tried to get around the reliability problems by
trying to find ways to locate good information in those narratives. In
particular, I know Seth Payne has written a little about this, in the
LDS context (such as his Sunstone West presentation this year, which
was really good and interesting stuff). He’s of the view that you can
find good information in apostate narratives, but that’s in part
because LDS culture is sufficiently mainstream that apostate
narratives are less likely to be sensationalized. And, he’s got a
database of 200 of them. (Neither of which apply to FLDS/Escape.) And
I still don’t know if Armand buys Seth’s theory.

Comment by Kaimi — June 1, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

(I should note that I’m good friends with some former members of the
church, and my “reliability of apostate narratives” comment isn’t
meant to denigrate anyone’s individual story, certainly not my
friends’ stories. I’m just refering to what I believe is, in my own
limited understanding of the sociological literature (and conversation
with Armand and his much greater knowledge of the material), a known
and recognized phenomenon.)

Comment by Kaimi — June 1, 2008 @ 9:37 pm




@@Apology

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080916.BCPOLYGAMY16/TPStory/National
Canadian seized in Texas set to be free
Judge to end supervision of teen, now 18, one of 400 young people removed from religious sect's compound
ROBERT MATAS 
September 16, 2008

http://iperceive.net/real-ugly-americans-texas-cps-refuses-to-apologize-to-canadian-girl-wrongly-held/
the Toronto Globe and Mail reports on the heartless, insolent response
of CPS spokesman Patrick Crimmins when asked if CPS had made any
mistakes or owes any apology — to FLDS families or to the 18-year-old
Canadian girl held since April — for removing them from their homes
and brutally separating parents and children without cause:

Despite the reversal in court orders, Patrick Crimmins, a spokesman
for Child Protective Services, said yesterday that authorities do not
believe they made any mistakes. Investigators acted on information
they had at the time of the raid, he said in an interview.

“We stand by the fact that at the time, given the circumstances and
the information we had, we did act appropriately and no, we haven’t
changed that position,” he said. Asked whether an apology were
necessary, Mr. Crimmins said: “Absolutely not.”

In other words, Crimmins and CPS don’t give a damn for the joint
judgment of the Texas 3rd Court of Appeal and the Texas Supreme Court,
both of which found that CPS violated the law in removing these
children and separating them from their parents. In the face of such
condemnation, Crimmins is unmoved. This says a lot about Texas CPS

11 TxBlogger { 09.16.08 at 2:23 pm } They could start here with
apologizes: Rep Naishtat, on the committee that overseees CPS,
“There’s something called due process rights and you can’t deprive
children, or families, or anyone in this country of their due process
rights. And that was a big mistake.”

@@Arrested

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t9366.html
UPDATED: Record child welfare rescue Web Posted: 04/08/2008 09:58 AM
CDT Janet Elliott Express-News Austin Bureau one man was arrested and
charged with interfering with the duties of a public servant, a class
B misdemeanor. That is punishable by up to 180 days in jail and a fine
of up to $2,000.  "He was not doing what the officers at the scene
wanted him to do," Mange said, giving no other details of his actions
or his name. 


Search of FLDS temple site complete
By Brian West
Deseret Morning News
Published: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:05 a.m. MDT
Texas Rangers said the FLDS faithful involved in the brief stand-off
were "passive and loving" and did not offer physical resistance, with
the exception of Levi Barlow Jeffs, 19, who was arrested for
interfering with the duties of a public servant.


@@Arrow Child and Family Ministries

Villian ****

Some of the original volunteers in the operation came from here. They
complained of "racism and contempt" from the children. They were
informed before the children were scattered from the coliseum that
they would be receiving children, they were quite happy to receive
them and dissapointed (they were trained by Carolyn "get the kids out
of there" Jessop) when the court sent them back. They have posted
official statements defending CPS and urging the governor to "protect
the children" by keeping them from their families.

Official organization webpage: http://www.arrow.org/

Official statments protesting return of the children

http://www.arrow.org/mrc/publications/Publications.html
Commentary Archive   
The Michael Reagan Center for Advocacy & Research, operating from a
Christian worldview, conducts research in order to effectively
advocate for public policies that benefit the safety, stability and
well-being of children and families, particularly those served by
public and private child welfare systems.

From their website:
ADOPTION - A TOP PRIORITY
Arrow Child & Family Ministries and the Michael Reagan Center are
committed to encourage, educate, and empower the Christian community
to provide loving permanent homes for every child in foster care in
the United States. We believe that every child deserves a permanent,
loving home and family. We also believe that Christians, as
individuals and as churches, are privileged to provide for the
"orphans" in their community. We see God working today to encourage
His church to have a heart for these forgotten children.

According to the latest federal AFCARS report, there are over 79,000
children in foster care who are immediately available for adoption -
children whose parent's parental rights have already been terminated.
There are over 105 million households in the United States. An
estimated 80%, or 84 million, of those identify themselves as
Christian homes. That is over 1,000 Christian homes for every foster
child immediately available for adoption. Unfortunately, most of these
homes are not aware of the need, are discouraged by perceptions of the
difficulty and complexity of the adoption process, or lack the
community or family support necessary for a successful adoption.

Churches play a critical role in informing their families about foster
care and adoption, and in encouraging and supporting their families at
every stage of the adoption process. But churches, like the families,
lack knowledge of:

Children available for adoption (Who are they? What are their special
needs?) 

We believe that churches and families are willing and available to
provide permanent homes for these foster children, if only they had
access to the information and support they need to be successful.
Arrow is dedicated to fulfilling this need. Working together with
churches, families, and communities, we can accomplish our objective -
a permanent, loving family for every available foster child

Letter
to Governor Perry Regarding Eldorado Children  WE MUST NEVER
FORGET THE CHILDREN We at Arrow Child and Family Ministries and the
Michael Reagan Center for Advocacy and Research will not forget these
children. The events surrounding the removal of the FLDS children and
their subsequent return have greatly shaken our confidence in our
government's ability to make wise decisions and to act effectively to
protect our children.

... In addition to preparing the facility, we engaged in the process
of recruiting, screening, hiring, and training 75 additional staff.
Following DFPS instructions, we also developed and presented special
cultural training to our staff [by Carolyn Jessop]and to over 100
volunteers who would be working directly or indirectly with the
children. We also worked closely with former FLDS members to increase
our understanding of these children’s needs and to develop an
appropriate program.

Our staff’s first-hand experience with these children, and our
extensive preparation in close cooperation with DFPS to care for them,
have caused us to be extremely concerned for the children’s future
safety and for their continuing emotional needs arising from their
unique situation and their experiences in DFPS custody.

Truth, Justice and The American Way (see link above)
For a hopeful perspective on Eldorado
issues and to learn more about the CPS processes at work, see TRUTH,
JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY: A New Perspective on Eldorado.

ARROW WORKER FACED CONTEMPT AND RACISM FROM SECT CHILDREN
http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy927.html
Court order shocking to woman who fled sect 
She had been advising on how to care for FLDS kids when word got out 
Houston Chronicle/May 22, 2008 
By Sarah Viren
Mark Tennant, head of Arrow Child and Family Ministries, a foster care
agency hoping to take in 75 of the Eldorado kids on a long-term basis,
made the announcement during the training session in Spring. .. Scott
Lundy, a licensed child care administrator with Arrow, said his staff
members, who volunteered in the first days after the raid, struggled
to take everything from contempt to racism from the sect's children. 

Houston shelters, foster parents ready for girls from polygamist ranch
05:50 PM CDT on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 By Courtney Zubowski / 11
News (video) HOUSTON—Arrow Child and Family Ministries is preparing
for what could be the agency’s biggest endeavor yet: an influx of
young girls taken from a polygamist compound in West Texas.  CPS took
custody of hundreds of girls earlier this week, and some of them could
be heading for shelters in the Houston area – shelters like the Arrow
Retreat Center.  “We have two group home-type settings that can take
in 24 kids comfortably and then a camp kind of setting for another 75
beds or so,” Mark Tennant of Arrow Child and Family Ministries, said. 

http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=1753 
  
I live in Texas and thought y’all might be interested in seeing an
email I received from one of the yahoo groups I belong too. It’s not
the first one I have received although this one is the most detailed
as to what will happen to the children. 

Hi Everyone! My sister, _____ is the executive secretary to ________,
who is the Founder and President of Arrow Child and Family Ministries.
Arrow found out today that they will be receiving 80 -100 permament
placement children from the Eldorado Compound from infants to 11 years
of age. These are children that will be placed in Arrow’s care for 1 -
2 years.  More than likely, the parental rights of their parents will
adventually be terminated and they will placed in foster homes and/or
adopted out. Arrow is an excellent Christian Foster to Adopt agency. I
have met many of the staff and they are very Godly people.  I am so
grateful to Arrow for being willing to take on such a responsibility
of caring for these children. These children will be in a wonderful
Christian environment. They will be placed at the beautiful Arrow
Retreat Center in Porter, TX. Arrow is in need of many volunteers of
short and long term commitments. The current need that they have is
getting the cabins ready for these children by next Monday. CPS will
be out to inspect the Arrow Retreat Center in Porter next Tues. and
everything has to be in tip-top shape. These children are use to a
very clean invironment. (They have not been allowed to be normal
children and have been made to work and clean instead of play.) The
cabins have been setting over the winter and are in need of a good
Spring cleaning. Ronna and I were out there cleaning one cabin till
9:30 tonight and we didn’t even get have way finished. There are seven
cabins that have to be cleaned. I will be working at The Arrow Retreat
Center all day on Wed., April 23rd. If there is anyone that can donote
anytime this week to help Arrow clean the facilities and help prepare
for these children, please call me at (281… . I am helping coordinate
this project. (No training is needed for this volunteer task. Just
wear clothing that you don’t mind getting dirty! Bring old rags and
cleaning supplies if you have them.) Teenagers are welcome to help
with this project as long as they are supervised by a parent or
responsible adult. I wouldn’t advise bringing childten under the age
of 12 because of the cleaning chemicals and labor involved. 

Arrow will need many volunteers to do a number of tasks over the next
couple of years. From doing laundry, to cleaning, cooking, shopping,
etc… (My understanding, these volunteer tasks would be at your
convenience, whenever you are available.)  They are also in need of
long term volunteers that would work directly with the children in 8
hour shifts. There are other volunteer needs as well. In order to
volunteer, you must attend an orientation meeting and some training is
involved. To find out when and where the orientation meetings will be
held, you may contact Arrow Chld and Family Ministries at (281… . 

They are also in need of donations. I am attatching a list of items
needed if you or your church family can help in any way. I know that
their current needs are white twin sheet sets , (200 sets) white
towels, wash clothes, hand towels and toiletry items. The list will of
course change when they find out the needs of the children they will
be receiving. They will need pack-n-plays, high chairs, strollers, car
seats, diapers, etc. for the babies.  Right now, they are just
worrying about the present needs of preparing for these children. 

As far as these children’s education goes, it looks like CPS is
coordinating with the University of Texas to have a charter school on
site at the retreat center. This will take place in the Fall.
Therefore: Arrow will have to build several new buildings for the
school.  I am helping pick-up donations and cooridinate volunteers for
Arrow, so please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. 

More than anything, these children need a lot of prayer. Only God can
heal the hurt and sort out the confusion in these children’s lives.
Please pray for the staff of Arrow that God will give them strength
and wisdom to care for these children. Arrow will have to hire around
75 workers to help care for these children. Please pray that God sends
them just the right people to work with these precious children.
Sorry this is so long. Thank you for taking time to read this. 

Blessings, 
Comment by anon — April 23, 2008 @ 8:02 am


@@Barlow, Dale Evans

Victim *****

50 year old man accused of assaulting "Sara", who was made up in a
hoax. Ranger Long believed on the basis of the call that he was on the
ranch, but they soon found out he was still in Arizona and was never
on the ranch, something they could have determined (as well as traced
Rozita's calls) well before the raid was initiated.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/10/ec.01.html New Details
Emerge on Polygamy Raid; McCain Makeover?  Aired April 10, 2008 he was
found guilty of a conspiracy charge to have sex with a minor last
year. 

BARLOW'S NAME SELECTED FROM A LIST OF MEN ASSOCIATED BY FLDS CHURCH
READ BY HOTLINE WORKER
Once the caller identified her husband as Dale Evans Barlow --
selected from a list of men associated with the FLDS Church, read to
her by hotline worker -- Long decided against contacting the man's
Arizona probation officer.  Long said he had two reasons: in his
experience, probation officers call offenders and alert them to such
calls, and he had heard there were people sympathetic to the FLDS in
the area's criminal justice system. Barlow, along with other sect
members, had been prosecuted in Arizona on charges related to underage
marriages.  Texas officers defend raid on polygamous sect's ranch By
Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 05/15/2009 08:51:00 PM MDT
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12382380

http://www.nbc10.com/family/15803481/detail.html
Standoff With Polygamist Sect Eases
200 Women, Children Removed From Polygamist Compound Earlier
POSTED: 6:24 pm EDT April 5, 2008
Officials in Texas declined to comment Saturday on whether they had
found Barlow, citing the gag order, but the man's probation officer
told The Salt Lake Tribune that he was in Arizona.

"He said the authorities had called him (in Colorado City, Ariz.) and
some girl had accused him of assaulting her and he didn't even know
who she was," said Bill Loader, a probation officer in Arizona.

Barlow was sentenced to jail time last year after pleading no contest
to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor. He was also
ordered to register as a sex offender for three years while he is on
probation.

His lawyer in that case, Bruce Griffen, said he had not spoken to Barlow in a year.

@@Barlow, Sarah

FLDS WOMEN BELIEVE SARAH DOES NOT EXIST
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This young woman named Sarah who called in with the
complaint, does she exist? Do you know who this is?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We do not know who she is. I`ve never even heard
of her in my entire life.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is all a lie.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know what she`s alleging, that her husband
forced himself on her and beat her?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is not alive. There is no such a person.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where do you think this came from, if it did not
come from someone who lived at this compound?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Someone that has -- once lived here and been mad
and turned against -- traitor.  ND VIDEO CLIP)



  • Baptist Child Family Services: Contractor for more than $100,000 in rdi @@Baptist Child Family Services Villian **** http://iperceive.net/texas-cps-100k-club-members-bcfs-janel-voss/ I Perceive By proving contraries, truth is made manifest. Texas CPS $100K club members: BCFS & Janel Voss by Kurt Schulzke The Texas CPS child kleptocracy includes an elaborate web of vendors, not all of which are funded equally. Our research department — kbp — is curious about a Janel Voss who appears on the current list of Texas DFPS vendors with “active service contracts” exceeding $100K. Does Janel have any connection to Chief CPS investigator Angie Voss, up to her neck in the FLDS mess? We’d be delighted to hear from anyone who knows more about Janel, including Janel herself. (See update on Janel, below.) Also newsworthy is that Baptist Child and Family Services — Johnny-at-the-YFZ-Ranch with an armada of official Baptist buses, back on that fateful night in April — has no less than eleven (11) such $100K+ contracts. In an earlier version of the list, BCFS was showing only eight. Rewards of loyalty? Any wonder that they were so quick to respond to CPS’s call to spirit off those “abused” FLDS kids? Money, power, religion and CPS. It’s a killer combination for Texas families. Prairie Fire Journal documents the extensive “command and control” involvement of BCFS in the FLDS affair and poses pointed questions: I think all Texans should be questioning why a religious organization is put in a supervisory position over state, county and city personnel under any circumstances. When did the citizens of Texas delegate the powers of the state to religious organizations? What’s equally alarming is the BCFS’s involvement in the GPS tracking of the child-relocation buses as they were dispatched throughout the state. I’m trying to figure out how GPS tracking for buses full of abducted FLDS children fits into providing humanitarian services. @@Best interest of the children Villian *** Definition: best interest of CPS.
  • Betrothed: Married but did not "know" her @@Betrothed Betrothed: Married but did not "know" her The Polygamy Files: The Tribune's blog on the plural life Friday, May 23, 2008 The photo Just when you think this whole saga can not get any ''curiousier'' there is another twist in the rabbit hole. A day after a knocked-down appeals court ruling, state attorneys went for broke and offered as evidence damning photos of FLDS sect leader Warren S. Jeffs during a 14-day hearing Friday afternoon for Richard Daniel Jessop, born 10 days ago to Louisa and Dan Jessop. The worst of the photos shows Jeffs kissing a pint-size girl. The girl is Dan's sister -- and the daughter of YFZ Ranch overseer Merrill Jessop. She is so small that Jeffs has to cradle her in his arms to kiss her on the lips. The state gave her date of birth as July 1994, and described her as 13 when the photo was taken. Based on a handwritten note on the photograph, which said it was taken on July 27, 2006, she would have been 12 -- assuming the state has the date of birth properly matched up to the right person. The state also produced two other sets of photos but did not make much ado about the girls' ages. Louisa, who is 22, said one of them is older than she is. The FLDS bar physical contact between men and women until they are married. That means no hugs, hand-holding, kisses or anything else. Jeffs has taught that, until their marriages, girls are to treat boys like snakes. So there is no doubt what this photograph means: Warren Jeffs is sealed -- married -- to this little girl. If any one out there has a different explanation, offer it up. The photograph was taken almost exactly a month before Jeffs was arrested in 2006 on an empty stretch of freeway north of Las Vegas. I heard rumblings about this information about a year ago but nothing substantial enough to know whether it was true or not. I tried to ask CPS attorney Ellen Griffith where the photos came from but she would not comment. There was no comment from CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner about the photographs, either. It is unclear how it surfaced here. Was it found at the ranch or did it come from some other helpful source? So we have a photo, but what is the context? Is there any possible explanation for what we see other than the worst possible conclusion? What happened next? Web site of FAIRon the multiple purposes of polygamous marriages in the past. Some were dynastic, aimed not at procreation but at tieing ''faithful families together.'' ..whether Joseph Smith consummated all his marriages or simply entered into some marriages to create family ties... .. many of the women who joined Brigham Young's family after Smith's death were wives in name only. Carolyn Jessop offers another reason for marriages to the prophet: Honor and glory in the afterlife. http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/05/photo.htm At 3:55 PM, Hugh McBryde said... Brooke, In the story of Mary and Joseph, Joseph was betrothed to Mary, but had not yet "known" her. This was customary. She becomes pregnant with a child Joseph knows he could not have fathered. Why? Because he had not BEEN with Mary. The simple answer as to whether or not this was abuse is to see if the girl and her parents will consent to any examination to determine virginity. If she consents and she demonstrably is virginal, no abuse has ever occurred as a result of being married. Otherwise she could be asked, and if she says no relations ever occurred, well we'll have to go with that testimony as well. If she chooses to say nothing, we have nothing. The FLDS in many ways are very traditional Biblically. I am sure marriages are arranged as they were in Biblical times and quite often before those marriages could be consummated. In any case, from the state's point of view, Warren isn't there and thus isn't an immediate threat to anybody and if he ever gets out, this girl will be "of age." @@Birth certificate "During custody hearings in April, a Texas judge refused to accept birth certificates offered by FLDS women as proof of their age or their status as a parent. Duncan said Texas officials never contacted his office about the authenticity of the documents." [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9625046 Utah birth records sought in probe of FLDS couples' ages Salt Lake Tribune 6/19/2008] http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/17/dispatch-from-the-flds-hearing-cross-examination/ Dispatch from the FLDS hearing: Cross Examination Posted: 10:52 PM ET Permalink | 16 Comments Ismael Estrada, CNN Supervising Producer Other issues raised: Why did they take the boys? Were children taken even after birth certificates were provided? [yes]And more… @@Bistline, Ben Author of FLDS community city history. He says that the Short Creek raid was "total misery", but that "this raid is justified" Villian -- A Prophet in Purgatory Will throwing the book at polygamist Warren Jeffs bust up his sect or be a boon to it? Don Lattin SF Chronicle Sunday, November 19, 2006 www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/19/CMGTTLVBEJ1.DTL author of "Colorado City Polygamists -- An Inside Look for the Outsider," points out that the legal morass and public reaction against the 1953 government raid only strengthened the polygamist community along the Utah-Arizona border. "If they would have just let us alone we'd probably have died out by now," said Bistline, said Bistline, who was 18 when the government agents moved on the settlement. "They were just kickin' the mustard tree and scatterin' the seeds." IT WAS TOTAL MISERY ... THIS IS A JUSTIFIED RAID SAYS BISTLINE http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy805.html Girl whose call triggered raid complained of being beaten, officials say Child agency workers finish search of ranch, but investigation continues. Austin American-Statesman/April 9, 2008 By Corrie MacLaggan "It was total misery for them," said Ben Bistline, now 72. He was 18 when authorities raided the remote community on the Arizona-Utah line, taking 200 children into custody as part of an effort to wipe out a "nest of polygamy." ** Bistline was not rounded up in the 1953 raid ** , but the woman he married later in life was 15 when she and her seven siblings were shipped to Phoenix, far from friends and family. Despite the potential new hardships for the children and women in Texas, Bistline said the raid is appropriate if children are being forced into marriages. "This situation in Texas is a justifiable raid," he said. @@Bleeding the Beast Alleged system of Jeffs taking over to taking advantage of welfare to drain resources of government. Carolyn Jessop: When I was a child growing up in the community, few people did welfare, we worked hard and took care of our families. From what I understand there are many polygamist families that do not use welfare and are not involved in welfare fraud. The welfare fraud came into place with FLDS community several years after Jeffs took the leadership role in the community and he began encouraging large families to get on the system. Before that we found ways to survive without it. JEFFS: I agree with what she said to a degree. When Warren took over, he tried in every way to bleed the system. KING: John, you agree with that, too? QUINONES: Yes. It’s called bleeding the beast. The American federal system. When we were there, we found many folks who were on not only welfare and food stamps but also property taxes not being paid and lawsuits filed on that. They’re finally cracking down, the authorities, because dozens and dozens of folks who live in that community aren’t paying property taxes. - Source: FLDS: Warren Jeffs Makes FBI’s 10 Most Wanted List, CNN / Larry King Live, May 8, 2006 @@Blogs Blogs: have posted much news and commentary on the raid %%Modern Pharisee anti-CPS http://hughmcbryde.blogspot.com/2009/02/warrens-attorneys-believe-that-there.html %%Neon God Skeptical of raid blogger: http://trakker.typepad.com/neon_gods/flds_news_and_issues/ %%Truth Will Prevail http://truthwillprevail.org/ Truth Will Prevail Written about, by and for FLDS, often the only source of "real" story behind the lines about Flora, Carolyn, actual testimony of FLDS people in the shelters. archive %%The Common Room http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com Liberal woman, pro-rights Homeschooling family of 9 chats about education, cooking, crafting, politics, literature, leadership (as HM has time), music, once the problems of having 1 bathroom, now the luxuries of having 4(!), http://prairiefirejournal.com/blog1.php Prairie Fire Journal: Liberal guy pro-flds rights. http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/aug/17/government-matters-blogs-weigh-in-on-flds/ GOVERNMENT MATTERS: Blogs weigh in on FLDS controversy By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Sunday, August 17, 2008 ... Here are five blogs that have dedicated quite a bit of "ink" to the debate since April. I Perceive, by Kurt Schulzke (iperceive.net) Schulzke, who describes himself as an Atlanta attorney-accountant, says on his blog he wants to promote a "civil dialog among adherents of competing schools of thought." For the most part, he does that. I Perceive is decidedly opposed to the actions taken by the state's Child Protective Services agency, and he's not above taking some cheap shots in his arguments, but overall he succeeds in keep things civil. Ron's Insanity, by Ron (ronlawhouston.blogspot.com) "Ron," who says he's a Houston family-law attorney, counters with a blog that criticizes the FLDS. He describes himself as a libertarian-leaning liberal and goes into detail examining accounts of the sect's practices. Grits for Breakfast, by Scott Henson (gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/search/label/Eldorado) Henson is a former associate editor of the Texas Observer, and his Austin-based legal blog is highly respected, particularly when he comments about the goings-on during the legislative session. He has also provided probably the most cogent legal arguments against the CPS raid and subsequent child removal, though he has stopped following the case as closely in recent months. Coram Non Judice, by TXBluesMan (coramnonjudice.blogspot.com/search/label/FLDS) This anonymous blogger says he's from Dallas and in the legal profession. Showing that the arguments in this case certainly cross partisan lines, he's clearly a conservative legal blogger, yet - like liberal Ron - is supportive of CPS and critical of the FLDS and its supporters. Coram Non Judice, Latin for "not in the presence of a judge" is also the most interactive. He seems to search for contrary opinions to rebut, which is more helpful for a discussion than repeating the same opinions over and over. One other blog deserves a mention: the Volokh Conspiracy, a group blog written by libertarian-leaning law professors from across the country - and one of my personal favorite reads - also has weighed in on several of the legal arguments surrounding the case, generally opposing the CPS action, but to different degrees, depending on which author is commenting. You can find their FLDS-related posts at volokh.com/posts/chain1208964908.shtml. Paul A. Anthony covers local and state politics and city hall. Contact @@Boise Leon Blogger contributor who thinks it started with McCain campaign against Romney that got out of hand. http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695270749,00.html Boise Leon | 12:11 a.m. April 16, 2008 It all started when Mitt Romney let it out that he was going to be candidate for President in the spring of 2006. Then someone in Washington convinced the FBI to add Jeffs to the 10 most wanted list along with Osama and a string of murders and bank robbers. Then the reward was raised twice to $100,000 with press releases throughout the USA. Finally an unknown snitch whispered in the Sheriffs ear that there were beds in the temple, attack now! At the same time the No Mitt for VP ad was released. Sheriff, check the phone records of your snitch. She probably has disappeared by now. No use looking for the 16 year old. Look for the snitch. Sometimes there really is a conspiracy. Texans, remember the Alamo, the Texas book depository, Waco and the FLDS "compound" This is not about child abuse, religion or polygamy, it's politics at its ugliest. Follow the $100,000 reward money. @@Bones CPS full body x-rayed all children without permission or medical reasons, evidently to find "proof" of abuse, but 3 children (1%) broke bones just being rounded up and in CPS care in just 2 weeks. 7 YR OLD GIRL BROKE BONES IN CARE OF CPS IN WELLS FARGO PAVILLION http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd368.htm FLDS RAID AND THE NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY By: Devvy June 13, 2008 "Isn't it ironic that (Child Protective Services) is talking about broken bones when a little 7-year-old girl in the care of CPS broke an arm while she was at the Wells Fargo Pavilion?" @@Book http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 8 Ronald Schoedel { 06.25.08 at 5:23 pm } I have long been hoping that a book telling the truth of the story will be the first to press; so I can’t wait for your book, Kurt. It will be sorely needed and I hope it becomes an authoritative tome on the matter. We know there will be plenty more Elissa Wall/Carolyn Jessop-style novels written about “how the state of Texas managed to send hundreds of children back to their abusers” and those purveyors of fiction must not be allowed to stand as the sanctioned historians of this terrible tragedy. @@Boys CHILDREN DOMINATED BY GIRLS 14 TO 17 http://themothertongue.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/flds-boys/ According to a CNN article: Of the 463 children, 250 are girls and 213 are boys. Children 13 and younger are about evenly split — 197 girls and 196 boys — but there are only 17 boys aged 14 to 17, compared with the 53 girls in that age range @@Brainwashing Brainwashing: FLDS are accused of brainwashing their wives and children, mental health worker thought the rest of us have been brainwashed into persucuting the innocent INTOLERANT FAITH, BABY FACTORIES, HAD BRUISES AND WELTS, BRAINWASHING http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy789.html Former polygamists tell of isolation and brainwashing Ft. Worth Star-Telegram/April 6, 2008 By Jack Douglas, Jr. @@Brown, Debra "Child advocate" CASA who help lead the charge to "save the children", still has no doubts that all of the girls were being abused. Debra Brown executive director of the Children's Advocacy Center in Tom Green County. "the agency underestimated in its final assessment the amount of abuse that took place at the ranch" Larry King transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/08/lkl.01.html 4/8/2008 Debra Brown executive director of the Children's Advocacy Center in Tom Green County. We just got appointed as guardian ad litem for 330 of the children after that first petition was filed yesterday afternoon. So we'll be responsible for making sure that all of their educational, medical, emotional needs are being met. Texas child advocates believe system failed after FLDS raid By Paul A. Anthony http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12013868 The San Angelo Standard-times Updated: 03/27/2009 06:35:24 PM MDT Ultimately, CPS removed 468 people -- 439 children and 29 women believed at the time to be children. The 468 people, Davis said, had just 18 last names between them. - a precocious girl who she remembers did not actually like to cook. - Ripping into CPS for what they described as an inexplicable desire to drop the case as quickly as possible, Brown and her employees said the agency underestimated in its final assessment the amount of abuse that took place at the ranch AFTER THE RAID THE GIRLS ARE STILL IN DANGER Texas child advocates believe system failed after FLDS raid By Paul A. Anthony The San Angelo Standard-times Updated: 03/27/2009 06:35:24 PM MDT The girl, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, was returned to her parents in June, and like 437 others, her case has been dismissed by the state's Child Protective Services agency. "She was abrasive," she smiles, gesturing to her colleague, Shirley Davis, and her boss, advocacy center Executive Director Debra Brown, "just like us." AFTER THE RAID BROWN STILL DOESN'T GET IT http://iperceive.net/one-sided-yfz-ranch-redux-paul-anthony-falls-for-west-texas-casa-anniversary-propaganda/ One-sided YFZ Ranch redux: Paul Anthony falls for West Texas CASA anniversary propaganda by Kurt Schulzke on March 28, 2009 Among the more remarkable excerpts from Anthony’s account is this, in which he reports how CASA Debra Brown still manages to rationalize her participation in the government’s assault on the YFZ Ranch nearly one year ago: The [Sarah] story may have been false, Brown and her staff say, but it had basis in truth. “I could give you 20 different girls off the top of my head where that scenario fits,” Brown said. “The only things that have changed from before this happened are the children have been exposed to the outside world a little bit. The mothers and daughters have been educated in the law. “Are they safe?” she continued. “Well, I don’t know. I still have doubts about that.” Debra, honey, we all have doubts. It leaves me speechless (almost) that any CASA could possibly say, “The only things that have changed” are a bit of outside exposure and legal education. First, I would have thought that after being spanked repeatedly by the Texas Third Court of Appeals and the Texas Supreme Court, you might admit to having learned a bit of law yourself. And then there’s the unspeakable, irredeemable trauma that you and your CPS cohorts inflicted on hundreds of children and parents over the past year. The only things? What a laugh! @@Canadian Canadian seized in Texas set to be free Judge to end supervision of teen, now 18, one of 400 young people removed from religious sect's compound ROBERT MATAS September 16, 2008 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080916.BCPOLYGAMY16/TPStory/National Five months after an unprecedented raid on a polygamist sect in Texas, a Canadian teenager who was picked up by child-protection workers will finally be free to leave the state and return to Canada. A Texas Supreme Court judge is expected to sign an order within a week that will end court supervision of the teenager's care, Mary Ann Gonzales, a deputy clerk, said yesterday in an interview. Once the court order is lifted, the young woman may live where she wants and is no longer required to stay in Texas, Ms. Gonzales said. The former FLDS members said the young women were taken across the border to be assigned as so-called celestial brides to older men. At the time of the raid, the Canadian teen's parents said she was visiting her grandmother at the polygamist compound. The young woman, who was 17 then, was initially placed by the court in foster care. In June, she was allowed to live with a guardian, but a court order required her to remain in Texas. Her caregivers had to be available for unannounced visits by child-protection workers. However, she turned 18 this month and, as a result, is no longer under the jurisdiction of the state child-protection agency. Her parents, who live in a polygamist FLDS community outside Creston in southeastern B.C., did not respond to a request for an interview yesterday. @@CASA http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 12. While CPS is routinely high-handed and arrogant, this case is full of anomalies. One is that it features two kinds of Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASAs). One variety is the full, legally appointed thing as in the head CASA in San Angelo. The other variety is a thing called a “courtesy CASA,” not legally appointed but filling a sort of intelligence-gathering role for the head CASA who “instructed” the couresty CASAs not to talk with AALs and “not to interact with the children.” Millie found this to be just weird. The whole purpose of a CASA is to help these poor kids get through the agony of separation from their families. Yet these CASAs were told to coldly watch the kids and do nothing but take notes and inform the head CASA in San Angelo! If an AAL said something like, “Child A needs shoes. Would you please get some for her?” the CASA would respond, “I’ve been instructed not to interact with the children.” She hastens to add that some of the CASAs were active and some expressed concerns about the children. CASAs are normally good and helpful. Millie did have a phone conversation with two different CASAs who had met with girls and had hoped to be able to get more involved. @@Cast %%Adults %%Children 7-year old girls with broken bones in WFPavillion @@Catholic The Catholic is also under attack and compared to the FLDS %%Attack See Marci Hamilton http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/04/men-of-cloth-vatican-isnt-so-far-from.html Men of the Cloth: The Vatican Isn't So Far From Fundamentalist Mormonism The Nation - April 24, 2008 by Katha Pollitt Child abuse. Sexual abuse. Women raised to be baby machines controlled by powerful older men in the name of God. These shockers--and many more--are flagrantly on offer in the spectacle unfolding around the 139 women and 437 children removed by Texas authorities from the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado. The YFZ is an outpost of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), a breakaway Mormon cult presided over by Warren Jeffs, convicted in Utah as an accomplice to rape and awaiting trial in Arizona for incest and conspiracy. The visuals are riveting: women in pastel prairie dresses and identical pompadour-cum-french-braid hairstyles weeping for their children in state custody; skinny-necked middle-aged men insisting they had no idea it was illegal to marry and impregnate multiple 15-year-olds. @@Cellphones http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ not good enough to remove 416 children from their homes and warehouse them at Fort Concho in conditions that were so bad the judge ordered cell phones confiscated for no other reason than that the women in the shelters used them to take pictures of the conditions CPS put them in and share them with reporters. Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/18/2008 @ 12:13 pm @@Child Abuse %%Evidence Horror of the Texas Child Sex Cult Ranch By Anton Antonowicz Mirror (United Kingdom) April 10, 2008 Hundreds of children bred for sex Girls of 10 forced to wed older men http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/10/horror-of-the-child-sex-cult-89520-20378179/ Investigators said some of the children were unwilling or unable to provide the names of their biological parents. Children in the sect were allegedly deprived of food and forced to sit in closed cupboards as a form of discipline. They knew nothing of the world beyond the locked iron gates of the compound. There was no access to televisions, newspapers or magazines. Neither the children nor their mothers knew how to use crayons given to them by social workers after they were rescued. They were physically sick after their first meal on the outside because their stomachs couldn't handle processed food or rich sauces. "They are like aliens - or we are like aliens to them," said Helen Pfluger, a volunteer at a local Baptist church who helped to care for the children. "It was like talking to people from 1870." The pioneer-style dresses, worn over long handstitched underwear all yearround are part of the cult's strict dress code. The women spent their days tilling the fields and quilting and are thought to have stood by as the men preyed on the younger girls. %%No abuse MILLIE OBSERVED LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE OF ABUSE http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ CPS is routinely high-handed and Millie admits to allowing them to get away with it in other cases where the evidence of abuse was clear and abundant. This case is the opposite. Millie says she has seen literally no evidence of abuse (unless you count as evidence the five young women currently identified as pregnant underage) and remarked at how, during the now infamous 14-day hearing in San Angelo (download full transcipts of April 17 and April 18 here), Judge Walther allowed totally unauthenticated material into evidence, routinely over-ruling or simply ignoring solid objections to admission of hoakey material offered by CPS. At the same time, CPS has refused requests for simple stuff like an admission that an 18-month-old boy can’t possibly have sexually abused anyone. @@Child Support http://hughmcbryde.blogspot.com/2008/09/another-plan-to-bankrupt-flds.html Friday, September 26, 2008 Another plan to bankrupt the FLDS Buried in articles are often the most fascinating bits of information, that are just tossed off and nothing more said; The Deseret News - "As of Monday, Barbara Jessop had started paying child support, undergone a psychological evaluation and had a social study conducted on her home. However, she has refused to sign a family service plan that outlines the steps she must take to be reunited with her daughter." Now multiply that by over 400 children. The original plan of attack against the FLDS had their property trust being attacked (it still is) and plundering their wealth in that way. What I ignored, and should not have, was the effect of the child custody cases in terms of Child Support. Your child is taken from you, it's not just the legal cost of trying to get that child back. You have to PAY for their captivity, much as the families of the crew of the Titanic were in some cases ordered by Whitestar Lines for their dead loved ones lost uniforms. Were the children still in CPS custody, all FLDS parents would be bled through child support right now, along with the legal costs of their predicament. Sphere: Related Content Posted by The Pharisee at 9:20 AM Labels: CPS Nazis 2 comments: ztgstmv said... What CPS doesn't get is that it doesn't cost the FLDS nearly as much money to raise a child as a regular person in mainstream society. The FLDS make all their own clothes, grow their own food, and man their own activities. There's no need for expensive shopping trips to spoil their kids, getting the latest clothes in fashion, make-up, CDs, trips to disney, day care, dance classes, Taik won du, trips to Rome, etc. that "ordinary" children require. Thus the $600 a month Barbara and Merril are required to pay those foster care parents is excessive! FLDS kids don't cost that much money to raise! If CPS weren't so prejudiced, they would put Merrianne with another FLDS family, so that her cultural values are preserved. 2:09 PM Me said... But that wouldn't fit their plan. No matter what they won't put her with an FLDS family, because the money would end up right back where it came from. The object is to break them financially as you said. Besides, the FLDS belief system is what is hurting the children, right? @@Child Care "they have boys laying next to girls, and that is not acceptable." http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html NANCY GRACE Tip That Caused Polygamist Raid Possibly Bogus Aired April 18, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET LALAMA: Joni Holm, I think I have you. Safety Net, foster parent to children of polygamy. Again, bless you for what you do. How startling must it be for these children to be moved from one situation to another like this? JONI HOLM, FOSTER PARENT TO CHILDREN OF POLYGAMY: Well, you know, you have to realize that these kids have been taught their whole life not to trust the outside. Already, I know that the CPS down there in Texas isn`t quite understanding that. You know, the pictures that are coming out, they have boys laying next to girls, and that is not acceptable. My concern is when they place them into these homes, how adequately trained are these foster homes going to be? You have to train them because there`s things that these kids -- that these parents do not understand. JONI HOLM, SAFETY NET, FOSTER PARENT TO CHILDREN OF POLYGAMY: The first thing I do is validate how they`re feeling. You cannot go in there and take away what they`ve known their whole life. You have to work backwards with them. And then work forward again. My concern is that what are they going to do now to place them? As far as I know, Texas right now is not planning on placing them in kinship. And they need to start considering kinship placement. If they place them in homes that are not aware of the situation or how these guys were -- children were raised, they`re going to set them up to fail. For instance, if they put them in homes that are not of Caucasian, they`re going to have problems. These people are very racist people. These children will not react in a good manner in homes that are not of Caucasian. @@Children %%Jessop, Willson http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=144 Willson Jessop was born August 3, 2006. As a baby he was very attached to me. I nursed him for 13 months. He was contented and happy, very much “Mama’s boy.” At 20 months old his carefree babyhood turned into a nightmare... The morning that he and his siblings were torn from my arms at the Coliseum, they hadn’t eaten breakfast yet, and they were half-sick from the change in diet and the air conditioner being on all the time. CPS hadn’t allowed me to cover his crib even partway to block out some of the light and cold so he could sleep. They couldn’t find his bottle when I was forced out, and vivid in my mind are his screams, with his outstretched arms reaching for me as I was marched away—robbed of my dearest treasures on earth. Lilly (his 8-year-old sister) said they didn’t get anything to eat until noon. what a change—he was not even the same warm, affectionate, charming little person. He refused to let me hold or even hug him. He just gave me a bewildered, accusing look from pain-filled eyes as if I was the one who had abandoned him They would only let me visit one hour once a week, and it was such an oppressive atmosphere that I could hardly encourage the children, with the CPS caseworker taking notes and threatening to “terminate the visit” if she could not hear every word I said. The separation has delayed his speech. He mostly babbles, but he can say very clearly, “No,” “Don’t,” and “Mine.” If he feels wronged by his playmates, then he must revenge himself by kicking them. He is very aggressive and self defensive. The scars run deep, and it will take a lot of love to restore him to the happy, secure child he once was. they performed a SANE examination on him as requested by his ad litem. (CPS was not even aware of this examination until after it was done. Those are only supposed to be ordered by Law Enforcement on an allegation of child abuse.) I %%LIST http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ The state has in custody the three children of an EMT licensed adult woman married as an adult to an adult her own age- and they are monogamous. The state has in custody the 13 year old son of a 56 year old divorced woman who only arrived at the ranch last August. The state has in custody at least one Canadian girl who was merely visiting her grandmother. There is no evidence these children were or are at risk from their parents. Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/22/2008 @ 11:49 am http://truthwillprevail.net/index.php?parentid=1&index=123 Faith of the Children By Donald Richter After the mothers were separated from the children at the Pavilion, the older children took on the role of protectors and hugged and comforted the younger ones when they cried for their mothers. One of the Mental-Health workers who assisted the mothers and children shortly after the YFZ raid reported that the children “wanted to be busy and asked to rake, sweep, or wash windows The children asked the staff to please not use sugar in the bread, but they continued using sugar and making toast with cinnamon and sugar sprinkled on top….The children were so hungry that they decided to eat just a little of it.” They enjoyed swimming and having water fights but insisted on engaging in these activities fully clothed. “On one occasion, one of the girls’ sleeves was up a little bit, and one of the staff saw her underwear. The staff member went over and touched it and said, ‘Oh, do you guys wear that? I am sorry. That is why you are so hot. Why don’t you just take it off? We will get you some earrings and makeup,’ naming all this stuff they would get us so that we would just come out and be like the world. Our reply was ‘NO way, we will not do that. “On one occasion, one of the girls’ sleeves was up a little bit, and one of the staff saw her underwear. The staff member went over and touched it and said, ‘Oh, do you guys wear that? I am sorry. That is why you are so hot. Why don’t you just take it off? We will get you some earrings and makeup,’ naming all this stuff they would get us so that we would just come out and be like the world. Our reply was ‘NO way, we will not do that. The girls stood true and never watched any cartoons regardless of the persuasions of the staff members.” ‘Dear God, bless this food. Bless these children while they are here with us. Bless them to come back to their mothers. Amen.’ Some of the children, after the prayer, would ask the staff, ‘Well then, can you bring us back to our mothers?’ They would simply answer, ‘Only CPS can do that.’ @@Children's Advocacy Center of Tom Green County Larry King transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/08/lkl.01.html 4/8/2008 Debra Brown executive director of the Children's Advocacy Center in Tom Green County. We just got appointed as guardian ad litem for 330 of the children after that first petition was filed yesterday afternoon. So we'll be responsible for making sure that all of their educational, medical, emotional needs are being met. The attorneys also reject recommendations from the report - filed by the Children's Advocacy Center of Tom Green County, which runs the area's Court-Appointed Special Advocates program - that the girl be restricted from visiting her mother except when supervised by a therapist, and from calling her at all. @@Children who did not return to the ranch http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=12901308&PageIndex=2 Chloemitchell: 7/23/2009 7:57:00 PM +8 No it wasn't a waste Celtic, Texas indicted and have set pre trial hearing for 12 men. There were some children who did not return to the ranch. For that, it was worth every dime. Report Abuse | Ignore This User Hide This comment is hidden. Rating = 8. View comment Chloemitchell: 7/23/2009 7:58:00 PM +7 Babs and Merril by order of the court have to each pay 180 dollars a month to Naomi for Merrianne's care. Thats 360 dollars a month. Report Abuse | Ignore This User @@Children Unaccompanied by Parents DEVELOPING: Polygamist sect encouraged fear http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/11/national/main4010187.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._4010187 April 11, 2008 Deprogramming an entire community In 2003 and 2004, Jeffs, the spiritual leader of an estimated 6,000 followers in two adjoining towns along the Utah-Arizona line, plucked children under age 6 to bring to Texas without their parents, former sect member Isaac Wyler said. CNN: Interviewed many FLDS critics, but also let mothers plead their case @@CNN Transcripts Larry King http://quiz.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/lkl.html FLDS Video Collection 4/9/08 http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/09/texas.ranch/index.html#cnnSTCVideo Banking on Heaven film excerpt rumours: incenerator to burn human bodies? "FIRST THEY RAPE YOUR MIND THEN THEY RAPE YOUR BODY, THEN THEY SAY YOU ARE A CONSENTING ADULT" CNN LARRY KING LIVE Polygamy: Real-Life Nightmare or Tight-Knit Family? Aired April 9, 2008 - 21:00 transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/09/lkl.01.html LARRY KING, HOST, LARRY KING LIVE: Tonight, polygamy's prisoners living a real life nightmare -- beatings, confinement and worst of all... (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The wedding night was not very good. QUESTION: It wasn't? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't know it until years later. I was reading in a magazine, it's what they call marital rape. I was raped. Lori Allen -- she was raised in polygamist enclaves, first left when she was 16. She kept coming back on and off, even entering a polygamist marriage as a third wife, made the break at 32. And she's the maker of the documentary film, "Banking On Heaven: Polygamy in the Heartland of the American West." In Boise, Montana is Pennie Peterson. Born into a polygamist family, ran away at age 14, escaped being forced into a marriage with a 48-year-old man she said had sexually abused her. And in Salt Lake City, Dorothy Allred Sullivan. She was born and raised in a polygamist family, the 28th of 48 children. Her father, Mormon fundamentalist sect leader Rulon Allred, was assassinated in 1977. And she's the author of a remarkable memoir, "Daughter of the Saints: Growing Up in Polygamy." And there has been rumors that he put an incinerator in the temple that is designed to burn a human body. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What I'm afraid of is another Jonestown or another Waco "first they rape your mind then they rape your body, then they say you are a consenting adult" @@CPS %%Abuses To read Senator Schaefer’s revealing report, go to: http://fightcps.com/pdf/TheCorruptBusinessOfChildProtectiveServices.pdf %%Conspriacy beaniekidjacked wrote: Deceit big obstacle in sect case, experts say Issue is how to best deal with groups http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080601/NEWS07/806010644/1009 BY EMILY RAMSHAW and ROBERT T. GARRETT • DALLAS MORNING NEWS • June 1, 2008 AUSTIN, Texas -- Child welfare officials were up against a culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case for removing hundreds of children from a west Texas polygamist enclave, religious experts and former adherents say. comments: "culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case" When I first read this, I was sure you were talking about CPS. No organization I know of, or have ever dealt with is more into a "culture of secrecy" (they confuse targeted families), "unlimited resources" (you are going up against the government here - look out!), "and ... members schooled in the art of misleading ... as they tried to build a case" - this is straight from the playbook of CPS. The will use whatever words, ideas, plans, innuendo, lies, etc. to prove their case. And the lower courts enable them (just as in the FLDS case). 6/1/2008 4:42:48 PM "culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case"
    When I first read this, I was sure you were talking about CPS. No organization I know of, or have ever dealt with is more into a "culture of secrecy" (they confuse targeted families), "unlimited resources" (you are going up against the government here - look out!), "and ... members schooled in the art of misleading ... as they tried to build a case" - this is straight from the playbook of CPS. The will use whatever words, ideas, plans, innuendo, lies, etc. to prove their case. And the lower courts enable them (just as in the FLDS case). beaniekidjacked Recommend (2) New post Reply to this Post Report Abuse %%college degree http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-cps_08tex.ART.State.Edition2.42ca342.html Turnover takes toll on CPS High caseloads hurt foster kids' care; '05 overhaul faulted 12:00 AM CDT on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN Salaries start at $31,000 that those holding bachelor's degrees in fields closely related to social work are more likely to stay in their jobs, but conservatorship workers – known in some parts of Texas as "legal" or "ongoing" workers – now may have a degree in any subject %%Criminals Please read articles and watch the excellent video and then comment to the comments section link below or to the journalist herself (email below). Out of state and country comments are welcome!!!! http://www.keyetv.com/content/aboutus/contactus/KEYEGeneralComments.aspx <--comments http://www.keyetv.com/content/news/topnews/story.aspx?content_id=d4c25609-df14-4985-8b6a-7e8e6a9c678c <--video here http://www.keyetv.com/content/news/topnews/Story.aspx?content_id=6f192426-776a-4e9c-84ba-37d172fa4505 what constitutes a proper criminal check CBS 42 Reporter: Nanci Wilson nkwilson@keyetv.com Last Update: 12:55 am At Least 370 Texas CPS Workers Have Criminal Histories Assault, burglary, driving while intoxicated, theft, domestic violence, indecent exposure and prostitution, possession of cocaine and marijuana, selling alcohol to minors -- what do all of these crimes have in common? They are just some of the crimes committed by people who work for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, the agency in charge of protecting the state’s children. KEYE Investigates found at least 370 employees have a criminal background, and some have direct contact with foster children. .... That was about a year after Ike was arrested and charged with indecent exposure. He was caught performing a sex act on himself in a public park. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct and paid a $500 fine ...The number of employees with criminal histories is small compared to the total number of those employed by the Department of Family and Protective Services. Most offenses were misdemeanors. The most common offenses were thefts by check and DWI. KEYE’s search revealed some financial crimes such as forgery, fraud, credit-debit card abuse, larceny and shoplifting. In addition to DWI, there were cases of marijuana, cocaine and controlled substance possessions. Some employees were charged with failure to identify a fugitive from justice, interference with the duties of a public servant, interference of an emergency call, evading arrest, and hindering apprehension or prosecution. Several cases were burglary related. There were also violent offenses such as assault, assault with bodily injury and assault of a family member %%Mismanagement $85 MILLION WASTED ON CONVERGYS, $12M ON FLDS CASE http://www.johntfloyd.com/comments/september08/11a.htm "we have been consistently been critical of the methods used by law enforcement and the CPS efforts to destroy the FLDS church" We have repeatedly charged that the decision by CPS to orchestrate the April law enforcement raid on the FLDS compound was mismanaged as has been the agency’s ongoing “investigation” designed to separate FLDS children from their parents. The most recent state audit disclosing a pattern of fiscal mismanagement by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, the parent supervisor of CPS, lends credence to this charge of mismanagement against CPS in the FLDS. The Commission has wasted $85 million on the Convergys contract and CPS has wasted another $12 million on the FLDS case. %%Salaries http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-cps_08tex.ART.State.Edition2.42ca342.html Turnover takes toll on CPS High caseloads hurt foster kids' care; '05 overhaul faulted 12:00 AM CDT on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN Salaries start at $31,000 %%Turnover "nearly half of the "conservatorship workers" have resigned since February." http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-cps_08tex.ART.State.Edition2.42ca342.html Turnover takes toll on CPS High caseloads hurt foster kids' care; '05 overhaul faulted 12:00 AM CDT on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN – High turnover is taking a toll on the state workers who serve foster children, alarmed caseworkers, supervisors and child advocates say, making it harder to reunite families or otherwise bring stability to the children's lives. MONA REEDER/DMN Victoria Kearns, a former Plano caseworker, says her workload forced her to quit in February for the second time in two years. 'I love the work - just not the amount of it,' she says. In Plano, for instance, nearly half of the "conservatorship workers" have resigned since February. Turnover is also unusually high in parts of East and South Texas, a dozen current and former CPS workers and outside experts said last week. ...huge caseloads, the result, many say, of bad decisions by lawmakers and state officials. And they fear a new fix moving through the Legislature won't do enough to slow the departures. "It's ridiculous. It's impossible. You can't work a caseload that high and do a good job of it," County funding, support can shine light of hope into darkness of ...Gilliam in Lubbock County said stress is just as much a factor in the turnover rate as low pay and high workloads. CPS workers put themselves in dangerous ... www.county.org/resources/library/county_mag/.../7.html - Cached - Similar - [PDF] A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CASEWORKER TURNOVER WITHIN CHILD ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML No clear consensus exists regarding whether or how pay affects child welfare worker turnover. 53. In Texas, CPS minimum entry salary increased since 2006. ... www.cppp.org/files/4/364%20DFPS%20workforce.pdf - Similar - [PDF] Reducing CPS Worker CaseloadsFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Relieve caseworker 'burn out' that leads to high turnover. The turnover rate for new CPS case workers was 34% in 2007—two times the average ... www.texanscareforchildren.org/files/CPS_Worker_Case_Loads.pdf - Similar - Treating compassion fatigue - Google Books Resultby Charles R. Figley - 2002 - Social Science - 227 pages High turnover rates among CPS workers not only drain the agency's already tight budget but also has a negative impact on the quality of services delivered. ... books.google.com/books?isbn=1583910530... - Lifting the Veil: Turnover in Child WelfareJul 8, 2003 ... "The rate of burnout and turnover among
    @@Crayon THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT CRAYONS WERE Town residents were just miles from sect, but worlds apart Web Posted: 04/09/2008 11:41 PM CDT John MacCormack Express-News "I felt like I was from Mars, that I was alien to them. There was not one thing we had alike, except that we were female and had children," said Helen Pfluger, a local church leader who said communication never rose above the most basic level in the 30 hours she spent with sect members. She said the children, dressed in 19th-century garb, didn't know what crayons or breakfast cereals were. They huddled together. It was very obvious they were scared. They were non-responsive. They looked like deer caught in the headlights," Pfluger, 59, said of the 70 women and children housed at First Baptist Church. "Our food made some of the children sick. They are used to drinking raw milk and they asked for it. Where do you find raw milk?" she asked. "When they had clothing needs, it was impossible to give them what they needed. Where are you going to find a long-sleeved, high-neck, loose-waist, long dress for a 3-year old girl?" @@Conflict of interest "a state “professional” who has the motivation to justify her department and earn her pay," Gary D. Naler http://blog.thecurseof1920.com/?p=8 Eldorado Yearning For Zion women experience the most feared words ever spoken: ‘Your children are ours,’ CPS "CPS excuses their habitually destructive error as being “in the children’s best interests.” But what parent is ready to accept that a state “professional” who has the motivation to justify her department and earn her pay, is qualified to start determining what is best for their own children?" @@Cost Figures provided by CPS figure that $12.4M were spent on the raid, not including volunteer lawyers, court costs (and law enforcement??) Here's a breakdown on some of the state's costs associated with removing children from the YFZ Ranch: -- Lawyers' fees: $4.5 million -- Travel for lawyers and staff: $400,000 -- Legal staff: $583,000 -- Overtime for social services agency workers: $1.7 million -- Overtime for public safety officers: $410,000 -- Travel for social services workers: $1.2 million -- Travel for public safety officers: $82,000 -- Facilities, vehicles and equipment rental: $2.4 million Source: Various state agencies Costs top $12.4M for raid on FLDS Figure doesn't include court fees for massive case Deseret News By Ben Winslow Published: Friday, Nov. 21, 2008 12:31 a.m. MST The raid on the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch and its aftermath have cost the state of Texas more than $12.4 million, new figures provided to the Deseret News reveal. A spreadsheet outlining some of the costs for the sheltering of FLDS women and children in the aftermath of the April raid was provided by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services on Wednesday after a request for an accounting. The figures for the "San Angelo Mass Care Event" do not include ongoing costs since the 439 children were returned to their families in June, including the salaries of caseworkers and attorneys still involved in the case, agency spokesman Patrick Crimmins said. More than $4 million was spent on goods and services at Fort Concho and the San Angelo Coliseum, where FLDS children and some of their mothers were housed immediately following the raid. The "unified command center" set up there cost nearly $1 million. Another $1 million was spent on buses to take the children to foster-care facilities scattered around the Lone Star State @@Court Orders Order for Investigation http://www.flds.ws/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/order_investigationchildabuse_4-3-08.pdf need for the department to have investigatory acess to the children's home at YFZ ranch, eldorado TX 76936 and to have access to the following children: (sarah barlow, baby of sarah)... and to transport the children for purposes relating to the investigation.... signed 4/3/08 Walthers (does not give permission to take every child on the ranch, we have not found this document yet which is mentioned in news stories to produce every child to authorities) CIVIL ACTION TO REMOVE ALL CHILDREN FROM RANCH http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,695269082,00.html?printView=true Majority of Utahns say removal of FLDS children was justified Copyright 2008 Deseret Morning News By Brian West Deseret News Published: April 10, 2008 Walther who authorized agents to search the ranch. She signed the first search warrant April 3, then authorized a second, more expansive search warrant April 6. She also authorized a civil action, ordering officers to remove all children from the church's ranch. Search of FLDS temple site complete By Brian West Deseret News Published: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 p.m. MDT http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269191,00.html Doran, who was armed with a court order to remove everyone 17 and under from the YFZ ranch, said it was sometimes difficult to locate the children because some were hiding or being hidden from police. "They were shuffled around houses," Caver added. "They were playing kind of the egg shell game, and we had issues with that." Texas authorities find more women and children at FLDS compound Reported by: Brent Hunsaker ABC 4 News Originally broadcast April 7, 2008 The children have been removed under a court order that directs the Texas Bureau of Child and Family Service to determine if any are being abused. http://religionclause.blogspot.com/2008/04/legal-background-for-police-raid-of.html Monday, April 07, 2008 Legal Background For Police Raid of FLDS Texas Ranch Religion clause by Howard M. Friedman Professor of Law Emeritus University of Toledo Once inside the compound, authorities used evidence of past or imminent abuse or neglect to remove children and women. (Deseret Morning News.). On Friday Judge Walther issued another order-- this time a gag order to prevent further information about the investigation being released. (Ft. Worth Star Telegram). Judge Walther also issued an order directing officials to bring all children, including boys under age 18, out of the compound. (Salt Lake Tribune). http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8822573 (paid search) @@Abuse Authorities Bill M. lists problems committed by authorities The State is now claiming they knew that Teresa was pregnant, but "Had" to let her go. Regardless, she was given NO pre-natal care whatsoever, so we want the medical neglect on the record. Louisa had her baby in a shelter with no Doctor present, we want a statement from the shelter Supervisors explaining why. We want the Physicians letter to Perry about the condition of the little girl he saw in the ER put into the record. Gerry Goldstein Hoax call, advanced prep to take children, use of apostates to "Teach" the workers how to deal with the Residents and what they might expect (Dead babies, guns, crematorium.) Jerri Lynn Ward AAL, GAL, CASA problems. Willie Jessop Local lead-up to Raid, Eldorado Success, Hiderbrand, Baptist buses, TRLA Legal Rights abuses ACLU Violations of Due Process, Civil Rights, Constitutional Rights MH/MR Abuse of children and mothers at Ft. Concho Harrington Violations of Civil Rights and his letter to Perry Mom One Hopefully, Louisa Jessop Mom Two Hopefully, Pamela Jeff's Mom Three hopefully, Barbara Jessop or Maggie Jessop @@Crying How much crying can you catalogue in this mess?? date: 4/4/2008 "these armed policemen, they had taken the girls, strapped them on the bus, pulled them away from their mothers... I could hear screaming and crying and people forcing them into the bus and pulling them away, and the bus going away." http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/19/lkl.01.html ESTHER:. the next day my oldest girl saw these other girls going down and so she came to me and says, they're going to take me. Mother, they're going to take me. Don't let them take me. I don't want to go. 6:30 Marie observes: CPS comes out with neighbors children in single file. Father followed children onto bus, then ordered off the bus. Man walked around bus to each window and waved to each of his children who waved back. **Tears were coming down Marie's cheeks**. The bus pulled away, all the CPS workers and armed men left, and there stood this father with his two older sons. He put his hands up to his face and covered his face. **He was weeping** "The sight of the lost, anxious faces of the women and children looking out the bus windows or hiding behind their coats as they left the compound was enough to make more than one Eldorado man cry" [Trouble in the Hills http://www.newsweek.com/id/131379/output/print Gretel C. Kovach and Andrew Murr Newsweek Web Exclusive Apr 10, 2008 | Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET Apr 10, 2008 ] date: 4/5/2008 MEN PRAYED AND CRIED http://www.religionnewsblog.com/21116/flds-52 ReligionNewsBlog.com • Item 21116 • Posted: Friday April 11, 2008 ELDORADO, Texas - When authorities moved to search the large white temple on the polygamist compound in West Texas, about five dozen of the sect’s men prayed and cried around the structure, state date: 4/9/2008 Heart-broken three-year-old A three-year-old girl cries aloud, long and hard for approximately one and a half hours until she is hoarse and falls asleep. She keeps crying out her mother's name. Her mother, gone to an out-of-state appointment when the raid happened, has been trying to get into the shelters where her children are, but has not been able to yet. 11:00 PM The little three-year-old is coughing hard and wheezing badly. CPS workers are notified and decide to send her to the hospital on an ambulance. Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:00:00 PM date: 4/15/2008 http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-04-24-1190589243_x.htm Mothers from polygamous sect separated from young children Posted 4/25/2008 7:27 AM By Michelle Roberts, Associated Press Writer "MOTHER, MOTHER WE WANT TO GO WITH YOU", AS SHE BEGAN TO CRY "My two oldest were just terrified and they clung to me saying, 'Mother, mother, we want to go with you,'" said Ruth, her voice breaking as she began to cry. THERE WERE TEARS BY CHILDREN, WOMEN AND OUR CASEWORKERS "There were tears by the children, by the women and by some of our caseworkers," Azar said of the parting. @@crying girl http://docs.google.com/https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZd_BaQPgLcSZGZ0aHg3cTRfOTE5Y2Jwbjc2ZDI&hl=en Fort Concho: Tight quarters, fear taking toll on moms, children; exclusive phone interview Copyright 2008 Deseret Morning News By Brian West and Nancy Perkins Deseret News Published: April 13, 2008 Exclusive telephone interview from inside One small girl, whose mother was not at the ranch during the raid and has not been allowed to join her children in the shelter, cries out for her mother daily. "It's quite traumatic to her. She just cries and cries, missing her mother," Barbara said. "When a child is crying, it affects the whole room. There's nowhere else to go." Barbara said one child she's been caring for got sick and had to go to the hospital. Her mother had been away from the ranch when the raid took place and didn't accompany her daughter to the shelter. After the little girl returned to the shelter after being hospitalized, a caseworker quizzed Barbara, "Where was her (the little girl's) mother? Why was she gone from the ranch (during the raid)? Where did she go?" Barbara said she told the caseworker that the child's mother was outside the shelter waiting to see her daughter, to which the worker responded, "Well, she's with us now so that's how it is." Children could be heard crying in the background during each of the phone interviews from the shelters. @@Cult Texas group: Religious sect or cult? MSNBC - April 9, 2008 Opinions differ on how to characterize alleged polygamists Cults vs. sects The term "cult," is derived from the word culture and has not always carried today's negative connotation, said Phillips Stevens, Jr., an anthropologist who studies religions and cults at the State University of New York at Buffalo. "The word cult, up until the 1970s, was a respectable term referring to the central focus of a religious faith," Stevens said. "You could speak of the Catholic cult, and in fact, people still do." Beginning in the 1970s, around the time of the UFO-spawned Reälians and Charles Manson's "Family," cults were associated with "a repressive, exclusive group of people whose members are held emotionally, if not physically, against their wills, led by usually a megalomaniacal leader," Stevens said. @@Currency George Knapp, Investigative Reporter Polygamy Possible in One Las Vegas Neighborhood http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=4937132 Flora Jessop: "These children are not children. They are currency. The boys will be used in the labor force. The females are paraded and they are the currency of every man," said Flora Jessop. @@Cyanide There was no cyanide poison at the ranch, though that made headlines one day. Evidence taken from the ranch included a document about a ''cyanide poisoning document,'' taken from a first aid manual. cite: http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/archives/2008_04_01_archive.htm Sunday, April 27, 2008 Weapons of mass destruction? There aren't any. Period @@Damage, emotional Small children at YFZ were emotionally damaged by CPS Oct 30, 2008 10:00 pm US/Central CBS 11 News Goes Inside The FLDS West Texas Ranch Reporting Jack Fink http://cbs11tv.com/local/polygamy.polygamist.FLDS.2.852956.html [gd flds notes october 30, 2008] According to Barlow, CPS has left small children emotionally scarred. "It's amazing to have 4-year-old to 6-year-old girls scared of CPS," he said. Fink wanted further explanation and asked, "When you say scared, what do you mean?" "Run to their bedrooms... close the windows... shut the blinds..." Barlow explained. Susan Hays is a Dallas attorney ad litem and represents a two-year-old girl on the ranch. Hays' says she has seen children act out. "Younger children who've regressed to wetting their beds. Toddlers who've regressed to wanting to breast feed, when they've already been weaned," Hays said. "They pulled off the raid very well, but they didn't pull off the cleanup well at all." @@Danger Neon Gods: Ludicrous! 5/22/08 http://trakker.typepad.com/neon_gods/flds_news_and_issues/ Claiming infants were in danger just because they lived in the compound where men took more than one wife and allegedly forced very young girls into plural marriage is ludicrous @@Darby, Rep. Drew http://www.childbrides.org/raid_des_fallout_from_raid_intense.html http://www.childbrides.org/images/YFZ_raid_des_44.jpg http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270818,00.html Fallout from FLDS raid is intense Texas authorities defend removal of 416 children By Amy Joi O'Donoghue Deseret News Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 a.m. MDT Rep. Drew Darby addresses the media during a briefing in San Angelo, Texas, Tuesday. "As a human being, none of us like human misery, nor do we like the abuse of children," he said. "We have a saying here: 'Don't mess with Texas.' I'm going to change it up and say, 'Don't mess with the children of Texas.'" @@defence PASTOR DEFENDS FLDS, EXPLAINS WHY TEEN GIRLS MIGHT WANT TO MARRY 50 YR OLD MEN http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?file=article&name=News&sid=128 Quote: Say What?: Marriage & Texas Teens - "We Will Violate Their Civil Rights" Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Apr 07, 2008 - 10:33 PM "We are not going to violate their civil rights until we have an outcry, a complaint, and I've said that from day one." Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran Another way to read Doran's statement is this: "After we have an outcry, a complaint: WE WILL VIOLATE THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS." The likelihood that a child will be abused while in [Texas] foster care is greater than if they were left where they are. (Bolton, Laner, and Gai, 1981; Pryor, 1991; Spencer and Knudsen, 1992.)1 For the government to remove five hundred and thirty four American (534) citizens in Texas from their homes and put them into the care of homosexuals, fornicators, adulteresses, and worse -- teens with STDs is; well, you tell me what it is. When historians look back at the draconian measures taken against non-Muslims practicing polygamy versus the absolutely blind eye that is turned to Muslims practicing polygamy, and practicing it in nearly every neighborhood in the nation, they will wonder how ours could have ever been called a "Christian" nation. ....Have they never heard of Mick Jagger, he's sixty five years old and man is he UUUGLY! Yet he still has teens swooning over him. The fact is, in the enclosed society of the FLDS, the fifty (50) year old men are the MOST attractive men to their young women. They strut their little industrial complex with a charisma that politicians would envy. Their families are large and happy. They're famous teachers in their community. They are fearless in the face of mainstream society, willing to risk prison for their beliefs. These men are not just desirable to the young women in their society, they're what our mainstream whores would call HOT @@Dehydrated A toddler Hannah Fischer was left in a stroller for a day without food or water, hospitalized for dehydration and malnutrition. http://bedrockof87.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/flds-child-dehydrated-and-malnourished-while-in-state-care/ FLDS Child Dehydrated and Malnourished while in State Care Jump to Comments A two-year old FLDS girl became dehydrated and malnourished while in state custody. As reported by the New York Times, Ruth Fischer faced a distressing sight when she visited her daughter in a hospital: Hannah looked like a little orphan sitting on the couch. Her hair was stringy and she was in a diaper, a pair of dirty socks and a hospital gown. Similar to what happened in the case of two other children (see previous post), in addition to suffering physical health problems, her daughter also became withdrawn. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/us/29polygamy.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss Sect Mothers Say Separation Endangers Children By LESLIE KAUFMAN and DAN FROSCH Published: May 29, 2008 Ruth Edna Fischer was first allowed to see her 2-year-old daughter, from whom she had been separated after the raid on their polygamist ranch in Texas, at the child’s hospital room. The child had been taken there because of severe dehydration and malnutrition, Ms. Fischer said. @@Deseret News "the Salt Lake Tribune -- which had been established as a rabidly anti-Mormon alternative to the church-owned Deseret News" Under the Banner of Heaven p. 255 @@Disputed Minors @@Pamela, Janet Jeffs @@Pamela Jessop http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/magazine/27mormon-t.html?ex=1374811200&en=8509d8da8adb6e7a&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink The Young Women of the F.L.D.S. - NYTimes.com Stephanie Sinclair/VII Pamela Jessop, 18; and Janet Jeffs, 19, who, along with their own young children, were removed from the ranch in the raid. Pamela and Janet, as well as nearly two dozen other mothers, were originally misclassified as minors by the state (under age 18). CLAIMED TO BE 18 BUT WAS TAKEN ANYWAYS http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/flds-updates-for-52.html http://www.kristv.com/global/story.asp?s=8258677 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/02/home/main4064012.shtml May 2, 2008 Judge orders FLDS newborn into state custody " A judge ordered that the baby boy born to a girl taken from a polygamous sect's ranch in West Texas be placed in state custody, according to documents released Thursday. Texas District Judge Barbara Walther signed the order Wednesday, giving the state custody of the 1-day-old infant born to a teen believed to be 15 or 16 years old. The girl has claimed to be 18, according to an affidavit signed by Ruby Gutierrez, a Child Protective Services caseworker, but officials believe she is younger and placed her in foster care with other children taken from the ranch. The newborn is the teen's second child; the first is a 20-month-old boy. The father of both children was identified as Jackson Jessop, 22, but state officials say they don't know his whereabouts " However old she is, I am quite sure she is perfectly content to let CPS believe she is a minor, since that means she can stay with her baby and toddler. CPS UNSUITS "DISPUTED MINORS" CPS revises FLDS numbers — again By Ben Winslow Deseret News http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700256619,00.html Published: Saturday, Sept. 6, 2008 1 As of Friday, CPS said it has filed to nonsuit 268 individuals, including the 26 "disputed minors" whom the agency initially believed to be children but were really adults http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece June 22, 2008 Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? Girls, believed to be the victims of paedophilia at the hands of a religious sect in Texas, were rescued in April. So why are they now back with their alleged abusers? Bryan Appleyard On May 13, I had watched Judge Walther preside over a preliminary hearing in the case of Pamela Jeffs, aka Pamela Jessop. Again the turquoise prairie dress, again the sleepy eyes, again the sharp nose, but this time the hair is lustrous and even more elaborately arranged, the braid at the back forming a pattern like a prawn shell. The skin is fresh and clear. In profile she could be 14, and there is something childish about her whole demeanour. She chews her tongue a lot and she has a cereal bar in the side netting of her bag. Full-face, however, she looks older, anything between 18 and 25. It is this ambiguity about her appearance that is the point of this hearing. When taken from the ranch, Pamela was regarded by the CPS as a child, though she gave her age as 18. She was pregnant and, if she was a child, this amounted to sexual abuse. The baby, Jonathan, was born after her removal from the ranch. She also has another 18-month-old son, Matthew; his age suggests she must have been pregnant when she was underage. The father of both is said to be 22-year-old Jackson Jessop, whose whereabouts is unknown. But today the CPS has accepted Pamela is 18. She is no longer a child but the authorities still have her children. This has led to appalling legal complications about who is allowed to represent whom. As a result, tension is mounting between the social workers and the lawyers. The legal wrangling suddenly explodes. “I take great offence that you should discuss this in front of the press!” shouts Randy Stout, a lawyer acting for the child. He gestures with contempt at the local-paper guy and me and storms out. “You started it, Randy!” yells Andrea Sloan, one of Pamela’s attorneys. Finally, Stout, a kind of fat comedy Texan, but decent, is placated and some sort of deal is done. @@Diversity Foundation http://www.trenthead.com/2008/11/yfz-revisited-april-6-2008-media-and-diversity/ "We drive over by the Civic Center where a crew working for Oprah is interviewing Shannon Price of the Diversity Foundation, which helps teens leaving the FLDS sect (above), " @@Doran, Sheriff David Pronounced DOOR-un Picture: www.myeldorado.net/YFZ%20Pages/YFZ040104.html Authorities suspect local ranch tied to flds April 1, 2004 Sheriff David Doran Phone: 325-853-2737 @@Duclos, Susan Susan Duclos - SourceWatch Susan Duclos is the owner and editor of the Wake up America Blogspot, where she posts as Spree. She also cross-posts at the Israel Related (Israelated) Blogspot: www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Susan_Duclos Conservative Wake up America was heavily anti-FLDS until the court released the children. @@Editorial http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/05/what-does-texas.html What does Texas church raid say about us? Before one applauds the roundup at the ‘FLDS Corral,’ we should first look at what’s taking place in the nation outside the Eldorado compound — where anti-cult stereotypes can cause government to forget about some religions’ pesky First Amendment protections. By Mary Zeiss Stange Arguably, the raid was spurred more by negative stereotypes about FLDS and members' practice of polygamy than by a thorough investigation of evidence. @@Eldorado, Texas Index of news articles: http://www.wikio.com/us/states/texas/cities_and_towns/eldorado @@False report http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/253408 Update On The FLDS Custody Hearing Regarding the Children of the YFZ Ranch From the blogs A Little Ditty About The Eldorado Kids Posted Apr 18, 2008 by Susan Duclos this is evidenced by Texas Attorney General, Greg Abbott, when he said, "the case really doesn't hinge upon that particular 16-year-old", he goes on to add, "Once investigators, in good faith, go into the compound and determine whether or not there was any kind of wrongdoing; the case is on its own after that." @@FBI FBI agents were part of the raid, photo of them at the temple search, but not in early news reports. Now a federal search warrant has been issued, the church's lawyers said in court Wednesday, and FBI agents have been seen entering the compound. [http://www.newsweek.com/id/131379/output/print Trouble in the Hills Residents of a rural Texas county were suspicious of a secretive religious sect that moved in several years ago. Now hundreds of children are in state custody, as authorities investigate possible abuse.Gretel C. Kovach and Andrew Murr Newsweek Web Exclusive Apr 10, 2008 | Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET Apr 10, 2008] http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-20-eldorado_N.htm Polygamist ranch turns Texas town upside down Posted 4/20/2008 4:48 AM By Todd Lewan, Associated Press On April 3, hundreds of agents — a SWAT team, FBI agents, Texas Rangers, San Angelo police, highway patrol, and sheriff's department officers from four counties — raided the YFZ ranch http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-compound10apr10,1,2512549.story By Miguel Bustillo, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer April 10, 2008 Bed discovered in sect temple FBI confirmed that it had joined the investigation. FBI officials declined to elaborate @@First They Came... Fort Concho: Tight quarters, fear taking toll on moms, children; exclusive phone interview Copyright 2008 Deseret Morning News Published: April 13, 2008 Blaine | 7:43 a.m. April 13, 2008 "First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me." -- Pastor Martin Niemöller @@Forged documents FORGED DOCUMENTS? TxBluesMan said... Anon 10:43, http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:I0kv5ojwjawJ:gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/yfz-kids-abused-and-neglected-under-cps.html+%22Lee+Roy+Jessop%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us from published reports and the published Property Transfer, there is evidence that a two birth certificates were found showing one individual, one father, but two different mothers. Once it was established that there were possible forged documents, the court clearly had the right to discount all presented documents and require DNA ...until they have some sort of further evidence, it would be within the judge's discretion not to accept the documents. @@Fort Concho Fort Concho: Historic fort use to mis-house women and children in inadequate, primitive, cramped conditions %%Restrooms TWO RESTROOMS PER 141 PEOPLE AT CONCHO http://bedrockof87.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/cps-subjected-flds-kids-to-outrageous-living-conditions/ FLDS children and parents had two restrooms to share per 141 people in the early days after the raid. At that time, CPS was housing the FLDS at the Fort Concho National Historic Landmark, which consists of some original and some reconstructed buildings on the site of a 19th century fort. A petition for writ of habeus corpus filed by attorneys representing three monogamous FLDS fathers (whose wives were “of age at the time of their marriage”) provided the ratio of restrooms to people at this facility (thanks to Grits for Breakfast for providing the link to the filing). Foster Care @@Foster Care %%Dangerous http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/hccfoster06/hccfoster06_revised.pdf Strayhorn Special report on foster children 12/14/2006 http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/collectivist-child-abuse.html In 2004, noted Strayhorn, 38 foster children were killed; 48 were killed the following year. In addition, "about 100 children received treatment for poisoning from medications; 63 foster children received medical treatment for rape that occurred while in the foster care system; and 142 children gave birth while in the state foster care system." "As alarming as these cases are," she continues, "we can only imagine how much worse the Fiscal 2005 data is because Gov. [Rick] Perry's Health and Human Services Commission has refused to provide the data needed to complete my investigation." During 2004, "four-year-old twins living in the same foster home received medical treatment in the hospital for rape," recalled Strayhorn. "A five year old boy in the same foster home received medical treatment in the hospital for rape two days later. A 15-year-old girl who was not pregnant when she entered our state's foster care system in 2002 gave birth in February 2004....[A] 12-year-old boy died in December 2005, while in our state's care, at a facility that treats children with learning disabilities and emotional problems. The boy suffocated while being restrained from behind by an employee of the facility." "The crisis is minute-by-minute and child-by-child," concluded Strayhorn. "I renew my call [to Gov. Perry]. He must act now to save children's lives." %%Locations YFZ Ranch children moved to foster homes across the state By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/23/yfz-ranch-children-moved-to-foster-homes-across/ Wednesday, April 23, 2008 Eldorado FLDS Amarillo: Cal Farley's Boys Ranch, Presbyterian Home Midland: High Sky Children's Ranch Abilene: Hendrick Home for Children Fort Worth: Assessment Center of Tarrant County, Catholic Charities Waxahachie: Presbyterian Home Houston: Kidz Harbor, Boys and Girls Country Waco: Methodist Children's Home Austin: Austin Children's Shelter Round Rock: Baptist Children's Home Ministries Residential Emergency Shelter San Antonio: St. Peter's/St. Joseph Emergency Shelter Converse: Boysville of Texas, Inc. Corpus Christi: The Ark Assessment Center and Emergency Shelter. @@Full adversary hearing http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/FA/content/htm/fa.005.00.000262.00.htm#262.201.00 § 262.201. FULL ADVERSARY HEARING; FINDINGS OF THE COURT. (a) Unless the child has already been returned to the parent, managing conservator, possessory conservator, guardian, caretaker, or custodian entitled to possession and the temporary order, if any, has been dissolved, a full adversary hearing shall be held not later than the 14th day after the date the child was taken into possession by the governmental entity. @@Germany RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE IT WAS LIKE NAZI GERMANY http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270818,00.html Fallout from FLDS raid is intense Texas authorities defend removal of 416 children By Amy Joi O'Donoghue Deseret News Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 a.m. MDT Meisner rejected some critics' comparison of the state's action to that of Nazis during wartime Germany. "I respectfully disagree with that," she said. "I feel very good about the job we are doing in Texas. I understand there are going to be those who disagree with us." WE ARE BEING TREATED LIKE THE JEWS IN NAZI CAMPS http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/15/sect.mothers/#cnnSTCText Tue April 15, 2008 State now a danger to children, sect's mothers say at least one woman at the YFZ ranch say they're being treated like Jews during the Holocaust. "We have been persecuted for our religion," Kathleen said. "We are being treated like the Jews were when they were escorted to the German Nazi camps." NEAREST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IS NAZI GERMANY http://patdollard.com/2008/04/first-look-inside-polygamist-ranch-with-video Deseret News article By Nancy Perkins and Brian West here. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270108,00.html “This whole situation is abusive and out of hand,” said Merril Jessop, a presiding elder in the FLDS Church. “The nearest thing I have ever seen comparable to this, even on the TV shows, is Nazi Germany.” MATCHES ANYTHING IN RUSSIA OR GERMANY OUTRAGE Merrill Jessop, who oversees the YFZ compound -- which stands for Yearning for Zion -- told the Salt Lake Tribune. "What's coming we don't know. The hauling off of women and children matches anything in Russia or Germany." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-compound9apr09,1,2635622.story Teen mothers reported at polygamist sect's compound By Miguel Bustillo, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer April 9, 2008 http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t9366.html response: purpleghostieApr 9 2008, 07:43 PM QUOTE "There needs to be a public outcry that goes far and wide," Merrill Jessop, who oversees the YFZ compound -- which stands for Yearning for Zion -- told the Salt Lake Tribune. "What's coming we don't know. The hauling off of women and children matches anything in Russia or Germany." Excuse me?!?!? I think a better comparison would be that of Jeffs and his abusive followers to the minds that came up with concentration camps in the first place! These men groom little girls to be basically slaves, subjected to whatever whims their "leaders" come up with. They desert young boys on the side of the road to eliminate competition. The public outcry should be as it is right now - people disgusted by the behavior of a bunch of old perverts. @@Graveyard NO MASS GRAVEYARDS OF BABIES http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/archives/2008_04_01_archive.htm Sunday, April 27, 2008 Weapons of mass destruction? That bodies were buried all over the ranch. That little babies were being killed and buried back in a plot in the twin cities. There were two graves found at the ranch. One belonged to a woman who died of breast cancer. The other is that of a 3-year-old child who died when a vehicle drove off a road at the ranch. The other mounds were flower beds. The children's graveyard in the twin towns is just that: A burial ground for infants who were stillborn or died during childhood. It has been in use since the 1960s. @@Griffin "I don't want them here. Whatever rapport we had is gone." County Judge Johnny Griffin Town residents were just miles from sect, but worlds apart Web Posted: 04/09/2008 11:41 PM CDT John MacCormack Express-News "I don't want them here, but whatever rapport we had with them is gone. To my knowledge we've never once had any trouble with them," said County Judge Johnny Griffin, whose worst fear is that the rural county with a $2.4 million annual budget will have to pick up legal costs for indigent sect members. "I don't know if they are violent or abusive, or if law enforcement knows more than I do. I'm just worried sick about how to pay for it," he said. Griffin has ample reason for anxiety. The state is seeking custody of hundreds of children, which will make Schleicher County the county of origin for the legal cases. Unless the county gets help, it will go broke, he said @@Guantamo Bay http://www.alternet.org/rights/86704/the_flds_children_seized_in_texas_are_in_their_own_private_gitmo By Richard Wexler, The Nation. Posted May 31, 2008. The FLDS Children Seized in Texas are in Their Own Private Gitmo @@Health Care HEALTH: STRICT INFECTION POLICY (THEN WHY ARE THE KIDS ALL SICK?) http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270818,00.html Fallout from FLDS raid is intense Texas authorities defend removal of 416 children By Amy Joi O'Donoghue Deseret News Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 a.m. MDT briefing also included some descriptions by Dr. Adolfo Valadez, assistant commissioner with the state Department of Health, who has been on-site with the children. He has overseen the delivery of medical care for the children, including implementing a "strict and stringent infection control policy." The care, which includes mobile clinics and a variety of nursing staff, is not unlike care delivered during the height of Texas hurricane season. He said that two or three more cases of chicken pox have been detected among the children, bringing the total to 23 so far. At the outset of the raid, officials said that several children were ill with the common childhood disease On Tuesday, the doctor said there were no children in isolation, but he did not rule out the possibility of additional chicken pox cases because of its long incubation period. IF WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT WARRANTS A SEXUAL EXAM WE WILL FOR FORWARED (all children were examined with no evidence) He said 100 healthcare workers are on hand to tend to any medical needs, including administering routine physical exams and addressing any urgent care situations. His agency has not been involved in performing any medical examinations to assess the possibility of sexual abuse. That role, he said, would fall under the direction of child protection workers, with Meisner adding that "if we have evidence that warrants a sexual exam we will go forwa @@Hearing FLDS hearings Live from the FLDS hearing in Austin By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Originally published 01:26 p.m., April 14, 2009 Updated 02:46 p.m., April 14, 2009 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/apr/14/live-from-the-flds-hearing-in-02/ AUSTIN - 2:21 p.m.: Staunchly defending the decisions of her predecessor, the leading official of the state's child-welfare agency said the $12.5 million spent on last year's raid of the YFZ Ranch "was definitely worth it," and that the hundreds of children removed from the polygamous compound are safer today than before the state action. @@Hearts Gary D. Naler http://blog.thecurseof1920.com/?p=8 “Our children have good mothers. We take very good care of them. We are not child abusers. The only abuse they’ve ever had is since the CPS has taken them. They are innocent and sweet children,” said one mother. “The sexual abuse and all of these reports that are coming through are not accurate,” said Janet. “It seems as though, often times people judge from their own hearts — other people — and this is what we are victims of.” @@Helicopters http://iperceive.net/trio-of-helicopters-buzz-yfz-ranch-terrorizing-kids/ Trio of Texas helicopters buzz YFZ ranch, terrorizing kids by Kurt Schulzke on July 26, 2008 Bill reports that Saturday afternoon, around 2 pm, a trio of Apache helicopters gratuitously buzzed and hovered over the YFZ Ranch, in Eldorado, Texas, scattering screaming children. Why would the government do something like this? Maybe they’re growing increasingly desperate in their war against the FLDS. Perhaps they’re creating the impression of a “search” for the five men indicted in San Angelo on Tuesday. Whatever the reason for the latest Texas incursion onto private property, a recent ABCNews video suggests an alternative use for military aircraft. Texas: Leave those kids alone! Otis 07.28.08 at 7:17 am Kleiglights, Didn’t happen. They were at least 1500 feet above the ground and went between the PAVE PAWS radar site and compound. NO GUNS STICKING OUT. I was there as I live close to Pave Paws. That’s how I know about the choppers. FLDS says they have pics.. prove it! No photo shop touch-ups superimposing Blackhawks over the compound please Shasri 07.28.08 at 9:06 am Ok, I followed the link under Otis’ name and it led me to myeldorado.net. He says he saw choppers at 1500 feet http://www.flds.ws/2008/07/26/texas-isnt-finished-abusing-the-children-on-the-ranch/ THE CHILDREN ON THE RANCH In a mindless maneuver that had to come from the Governor’s office, 3 Apache Attack helicopters swooped into the Ranch compound in Eldorado Texas, sending children working their gardens and milking cows screaming for shelter believing another attack by armored personnel carriers, snipers with machine guns and swat teams in full dress battle gear were once again coming back to kidnap them. Coming in low and fast, the aircraft, with guns bristling from every hole and door available, circled feet off the ground as clouds of sand and dirt billowed into the air pelting the children as they ran terrorized by the site and the remembrence of the earlier attack just month’s earlier. If this is the State of Texas’s idea of how not to abuse children, they are doing as miserable a job of it as CPS did while their victim’s were in their care for 8 weeks beginning on April 3, 2008 It takes a very special breed of people to abuse, terrorize, emotionally and psychologically cripple women and children, but CPS, the Texas Rangers and the local residents appear to have what it takes to be really good at their jobs. @@Highway One popular conspiracy theory on many websites and blogs is that the state is really after land needed for a highway that would run through the property. http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ Gravitas { 06.25.08 at 9:17 pm } Now I understand the 1,700 acre FLDS compound was at the intersection of the proposed international highway through Texas. No wonder Gov. Rick Perry was happy to cooperate in the effort to drive the FLDS out of Texas. More on that coming soon, I hope? @@Hilderbran, Harvey "I feel pretty darn good. I've got some pride in it. It's one of those things I knew it was the right thing to do." RECORD CHILD WELFARE RESCUE http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t9366.html WEB Posted: 04/08/2008 09:58 AM CDT Janet Elliott Express-News Austin Bureau Harvey Hilderbran, R-Kerrville, to push for changes in the marriage law, including increasing the minimum age at which teenagers can marry to 16, if they get parental consent or a court order. Previous law allowed someone as young as 14 to get married with parental consent. "Had this bill not passed, there would have been quite a few of them that were married and were pregnant for instance — or married with kids — that were under 16, that they could not have done much about," he said. "I feel pretty darn good. I've got some pride in it. It's one of those things I knew it was the right thing to do." @@Hill Country Community Mental Health-Mental Retardation Center @@Mental health workers Mental health workers said they had never seen women and children treated so badly, like concentration camp. Story was not reported outside of San Antonio (May 10), Salt Lake City (May 13) Only source that CPS completly lost one boy who was found after the shelter was closed down, and that toddler had been left in stroller without food or water for 24 hours and hospitalized for dehydration, malnutrition. [gd Chairman says Texas CPS workers mistreated FLDS] Chairman says Texas CPS workers mistreated FLDS http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700225591,00.html By Brian West Deseret News Published: May 14, 2008 John Kight is determined to get the word out that Child Protective Services in Texas is out of control. As chairman of an organization that provided mental health workers to assist FLDS children and mothers taken from the YFZ Ranch, he spoke with the Texas governor's office Tuesday and has already spoken with state legislators. Mental health staffers blast state care of sect kids - 12:37pmMay 10, 2008 http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/MYSA051108_01A_mhmrreports_3a4fa3e_html2888.html Kevin Dinnin, the president of Baptist Children and Family Services who served as incident commander at the shelter under a contract between his agency and the state, said he couldn't confirm many of the allegations made by the MHMR workers. “Some of it is unfounded,” he said. “Some of it is accurate, depending on your point of view. Were the shelters crowded? Yeah. But it's a shelter. And yes, CPS workers were taking notes and listening. Yes, they were always around. I'm not defending CPS, but it's hard to give people privacy in a shelter.” Dinnin said he remembers a young MHMR staffer making announcements at the shelter that contained misinformation to a group of FLDS women. He asked the staffer to leave, and a DPS trooper escorted her out. “I didn't even know who she was. It was inappropriate. You need to be on the same page,” Dinnin said. ...“What they saw was so horrendous, they had to report it to the board,” Dawson said. “We were taken aback. I have every confidence their stories are accurate. Our people are professionals, with years and years of service in their fields.” ...“We were literally astounded at what they told us,” Kite said. “They are trampling all over human decency and those people's civil rights. How do we stop an agency that is out of control? We should not just sit here and let it happen These lovely women and children were gracious and kind always,” one wrote. “They tried to cooperate with every request, even when terrified that they were going to be separated from their children. The mothers are incredibly loving and patient with the children. The children were well-socialized and well-behaved and interacted willingly and happily with us.” Another wrote, “The children were sweet and well-mannered upon our arrival. They obeyed their mothers and appeared to be healthy and well-nourished. They had none of the traditional withdrawal common in abused children.” Mental health workers rip CPS over sect Staff complains agency traumatized kids, disregarded mothers' rights By ROGER CROTEA San Antonio Express-news May 10, 2008, 10:39PM http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5770183.html Also: (without links to documents) http://shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=POLYGAMY-KIDS-05-13-08 Caregivers protest treatment of FLDS children, mothers By JULIA LYON Salt Lake Tribune 2008-05-13 00:00:00 Children living in crowded quarters that led to upper respiratory illnesses. Youngsters plagued with diarrhea from unhealthy foods they usually did not eat. Distressed mothers enduring widespread rudeness -- such as flashlights shined in their faces as they tried to sleep. Blog: http://prorev.com/2008/05/victims-of-fundamentalist-mormons.html Monday, May 19, 2008 VICTIMS OF FUNDAMENTALIST MORMONS VICTIMIZED BY STATE OF TEXAS SALT LAKE CITY TRIBUNE (quotes article) (old copy removed:) Caregivers blast Texas' treatment of polygamous sect's women, children http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9238520 http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_705dqqjcxcj By Julia Lyon The Salt Lake Tribune Article Last Updated: 05/13/2008 09:17:24 AM MDT http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=11 Truth Will PrevailMay 10, 2008 ... "The children were sweet and well-mannered upon our arrival," another worker reported. "They obeyed their mothers and appeared to be healthy ... www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=11 Mental Health Workers Report FLDS Women Good Mothers By Donald Richter Reports submitted by employees of the Hill Country Community Mental Health-Mental Retardation Center and discussed in an article by Roger Croteau on The San Antonio Express-News Website of May 10, 2008, substantiate what those who have had personal association with the FLDS mothers and their children have known all along---these are loving mothers with well-behaved and well-adjusted children. MHMR workers praised the mothers as "parents of healthy, well-behaved and emotionally normal kids." "These lovely women and children were gracious and kind always," one worker stated. "They tried to cooperate with every request, even when terrified that they were going to be separated from their children. The mothers are incredibly loving and patient with the children. The children were well-socialized and well-behaved and interacted willingly and happily with us." "The children were sweet and well-mannered upon our arrival," another worker reported. "They obeyed their mothers and appeared to be healthy and well-nourished. They had none of the traditional withdrawal common in abused children." All nine reports were favorable to the mothers but were highly critical of the state’s Child Protective Services agency (CPS) for removing the children from their community and separating them from their mothers and described many CPS workers as "high-handed, rude, or uncaring." Conditions at the shelter also were sharply criticized. "I have worked in Domestic Violence/Sexual abuse programming for over 20 years," one worker said, "and have never seen women and children treated this poorly, not to mention their civil rights being disregarded in this manner. It makes us all wonder how safe anyone is who has children." Some reports claimed that overcrowded conditions at the shelter contributed to the rapid spread of upper-respiratory infections and chicken pox. Another report described these deplorable conditions as a deliberate form of coercion: "The more uncomfortable they were the more CPS thought they would talk." One MHMR worker claimed that he had been threatened with arrest when he protested the separation of special-needs children from their mothers after the mothers had been told earlier in the day that this would not happen. That same worker was among three who reported that the CPS lied to the mothers. One report stated that such lies were a tactic used to make it easier to separate the children from their mothers. Several reports said that mothers were denied access to their lawyers. When the www.captivefldschildren.org Website earlier reported in its timeline that six FLDS ladies, mothers and caretakers, had chosen to be taken to the Family Violence Shelter because CPS workers had told them that they would get their children back sooner if they did, a CPS spokesman called the claim "blatantly untrue." Apparently, the desire of the CPS was to make it appear that the ladies had gone to the shelter because they were afraid of something happening to them if they returned to the Ranch. One of the reports by MHMR workers makes an almost identical claim to that stated in the Website. One MHMR worker reported, "The entire MH support staff was ‘fired’ the second week; we were sent home due to being ‘too compassionate." The reports were written at the request of the MHMR regional governing board. Board member Jack Dawson remarked, "What they saw was so horrendous, they had to report it to the board. We were taken aback. I have every confidence their stories are accurate. Our people are professionals, with years and years of service in their fields." Board President John Kite is trying to get Gov. Rick Perry and a legislative delegation to meet with MHMR workers. "We were literally astounded at what they told us," he said, regarding the reported CPS abuses. "They are trampling all over human decency and those people’s civil rights. How do we stop an agency that is out of control? We should not just sit here and let it happen." %%Resignations http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/oct/25/case-figures-leaving/ FLDS case figures leaving 2 public faces resign for unrelated reasons By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Saturday, October 25, 2008 STORY TOOLS E-mail story Comments iPod friendly Printer friendly More Local News Students' display focuses on water GAFB COMMENTARY: Heroes help in any challenge Christoval students boycott school food Social Bookmarking Two attorneys who have been among the most public faces of Texas' legal action against a fundamentalist polygamist group with a home in Schleicher County have resigned this month. Charles Childress, the Austin attorney who in recent months has been the head of the San Angelo legal team seeking custody of children from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Gary Banks, the local attorney who led the team during the months immediately after an April raid on the YFZ Ranch, have tendered their resignations. In his resignation letter, provided by the state's Child Protective Services agency, Banks told supervisors he was leaving to work for a local law firm. "It has been a difficult decision for me to make as I have enjoyed working for the department, and I have enjoyed working with you, and I appreciate your efforts over the years to try to support me in this position," Banks wrote. "However, I have concluded this decision is best for me and my family, and I hope you will understand my decision." ... Childress notified his supervisors more recently, sending his letter this month, with an effective date of Nov. 1. The letter does not provide a reason for his departure. In his letter, Childress told state officials he expects the agency to resolve "all but a handful of the pending cases" against FLDS members, which CPS has accused of forcing young girls to marry much older men at their Schleicher County compound. The attorneys join a growing list of officials associated with the April raid who have since left their jobs. Cary Cockerell, commissioner of the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services - of which CPS is a part - retired Aug. 31 for personal reasons, while Texas Ranger Lt. Barry Caver, who commanded the April raid, left law enforcement in June to pursue a better-paying oil-industry job. None of the officials has cited the FLDS case as a reason for leaving. In Cockerell's case, CPS officials said specifically the case was not a factor in his decision. Childress, a former University of Texas law professor who worked for CPS in the late 1990s, was brought back to help coordinate the massive case, which involved 439 children and 26 adults initially believed to be children. The loss of essentially the two lead attorneys in the case .. Posted by JulieW on October 25, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. To the list of resignations the article could have added Thomas Davis, head of DPS. So the heads of CPS and DPS, the ranger over the raid, and a couple of top lawyers. Looks like a bunch of scapegoats, when the ultimate responsibility for this travesty lies with Rick Perry Gary Banks- Lead Atty Charles Childress- Lead Atty Cary Cockerell- TDFPS Commissioner Lt Barry Carver- Tx Ranger who commanded the raid Thomas Davis- Head of DPS Walther to retire? From the comments section: To the list of resignations the article could have added Thomas Davis, head of DPS. So the heads of CPS and DPS, the ranger over the raid, and a couple of top lawyers. Looks like a bunch of scapegoats, when the ultimate responsibility for this travesty lies with Rick Perry. %%Text pdf files:
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    This letter contains many of the letters typed out in text filed: \priv\flds\MentalHealthComplaints.html http://www.voicesforthechildren.org/viewpetition.php?id=4 Aug 9, 2008 A letter to Governor Perry A Texan ashamed of her State and its Governor. Aug 13, 2008 4:26 pm Eldorado, Texas When first arriving at Fort Concho in San Angelo we were debriefed about “The Guests” at the fort; the “guests” were the women and children from the Eldorado Ranch. During the debriefing I learned that these women and children came from a culture very different that ours. I heard that they would likely not talk to us, make eye contact with us, and that they were brainwashed. Within the first two days of being among the women and children from Eldorado I learned though observation and interactions that the initial information we received was false. The women and children did make eye contact; Things stuck me immediately. These women carried themselves confidence; they were polite and respectful; they displayed what we would consider a great deal of self-esteem. An incident happened that helped me understand how brainwashed we all are; in my professional opinion brainwashed is the same as conditioned and/or socialized =; and we all have been socialized/conditioned in our respectful cultures, subcultures or societies. A woman requested to be escorted across the parking lot (from the shelter) to the make shift clinic were an EMS vehicle had pulled up because she believed a child of a close friend was hurt. When we asked CPS staff permission to escort the woman we were told no, she can not go there. We told the woman she was not allowed to leave the shelter area. I later regretted having asked the CPS worker for permission to begin with; I wished I had simply accompanied the woman across the parking lot to the clinic. This incident made me aware of how conditioned/brainwashed I am. I was obviously afraid to challenge the rules because I might have painful consequences for me. I actually pictured myself being stopped by a law enforcement person and possibly removed for the premise and/or accuse of interfering with legal proceedings. The entire experience at fort Concho and the Coliseum was sure-real; at times it felt like these woman and children were prisoners; I head some people wonder out loud if this was Nazy Germany? The thought had struck me too. Is this what it was like for the people in concentration in Germany? The women and Children from Eldorado were lied to and deceived on several occasions. I often felt helpless; I also felt in awe of the grace, and self-confidence in which the woman behaved. My culture, my society could learn from these woman and children; they have my at-most respect. • We were told before we ever saw these woman that they would not talk with us and that they were dressed “fancy” and had the best of everything. That they would only respond to us with “You will have to talk to my lawyer” This was an absolute lie and it was to “brain wash” MH to think like CPS. I never heard talk to my lawyer once while I sat and talked and played with the children. Everyone was polite and nice but very upset and confused… They were gracious and tried very hard to not be afraid and nervous. • We were also told to observe only and not to help. We were told we were surrounded by DPS and there were snipers on the buildings for out protection. Our badges were checked constantly by CPS to make sure we were not in the “wrong place.” • The women and children were placed in barracks built in 1800 with no air and no indoor plumbing, 80 women and children on cots side by side, even pregnant ladies. • Separated from older children (12 and up) and for days not even allowed to wave at them across the open field- told they would never see them again if they continued to wave-threatened with jail for waving at them. • Constant reminders that the adult women were only guests and that they were not in charge of the children and what CPS did to them. They belonged to CPS now and they could talk, interrogate, separated and treat them any way they wanted. This included physical exams and x-rays without adult supervision. • Not allowed to talk to the outside world. • Women were constantly lied to about where their children where and when they could see their lawyers and about when they would be reunited with their children. • No consideration for their diets so all the children had diarrhea for days. . No consideration for food, (meals served as late as 8pm, when these children were used to going to bed by then) clothing ( Only 1-2 sets of clothing) or cleaning of sheets and clothing-washers were brought but others had to do the washing. • The more uncomfortable they were the more CPS thought they would talk. • We were told that if we interfered with any o the investigation we would be arrested and handcuffed and placed in jail. This was said often to MH workers. • There were no baby beds or high chairs for days and often our woman had to go buy this for the women. • The entire MH support staff was “fired” the second week; we were sent home due to being “too compassionate”. • The children and women learned quickly who to trust and if you did not have a CPS badge they would talk with you. • After being removed the women stopped talking to CPS and we were “begged” to come back. When we returned we were told again to not interfere but “to do what we did best”. THE WOMEN HUGGED US AND STARTED TALKING AGAIN. Then they sent them all home with no children. • The children were kept inside the arena for 23 hours a day. • The children arrived healthy and happy and left sick and crying. • Mothers and children were watched like they were criminals and every word or deed they did was written down by CPS. • CPS yelled at the children & would not allow the women to talk with their lawyers, deprived them of sleep and constantly accused them of things most of them did not understand. • Never once did I see a mother loose her temper, strike out at a child or discipline a child in an inappropriate manner. • The last 2 days were the worst- over 100 State troopers surrounded these women and children taken away from them and only the nursing mother’s could keep their children. They were then escorted to a bus by a CPS worker and a DPS officer. • Again we were warned if we interfered or helped the women we would be arrested, place in handcuffs and would go to jail. I am thankful I was able to go and see all of this. Never in all my life, and I am one of the older ladies, have I been so ashamed of being a Texan and seeing what and how our government agencies treat people. Thank God for the Mental Health field, who have not forgotten what compassion looks like and still tries to help everyone. This must stop somewhere and somehow. This invasion of their property and disruption of their lives could happen to anyone anytime if all power and authority is give to CPS. Remember this was an anonymous phone call. May 7, 2008 Our experience in San Angelo during the “Eldorado Incident” was unique is that it was very different from what we expected, or from anything any of us had every experienced. It was frightening to watch women and children being herded and separated like cattle with no regard for human rights or the needs of the group or individual. How could this happen in America? How could this happen in Texas? If this had happened in another country, our government would have tried to prevent it! Old films of Concentration Camps came to mind. The first night we were there, we worked to get air mattresses for the pregnant women who were sleeping on army cots with no padding. That first week was spent being a friendly face to the women and children. It was a relief to them to be able to speak with someone who was not writing down and reporting everything they said, and who would try to help get their simple needs met. We developed trusting relationships with them and came to respect and admire them. They needed decent food such as vegetables, whole grain bread and meat instead of candy, cookies and processed foods, the sugar and additives were making the children sick because they had never eaten junk food. The boys and woman and girls had to share a bathroom and there were no showers available for several days. Then a shower trailer was moved to the parking lot and they were allowed to go there to shower, always under guard by CPS or DPS. CPS workers were everywhere and these people had no privacy. CPS intruded on their every activity and conversation, and even followed us around and made notes on everything we said. They noted everything we said even when we were outside of shelters if they heard us. We provided arts and crafts and school lesson for the children to the extent that CPS would allow us. There were very few things they were allowed to have as CPS had designated almost everything “weapon”. Obviously they did not know these people at all. Violence is not a part of their culture of belief. If they had been given a truck load of weapons they would have not used them. These lovely women and children were gracious and kind always. They tried to cooperate with every request, even when terrified that they were going to be separated from their children. The mothers are incredibly loving and patient with the children. The children were well socialized and well behaved and interacted willingly and happily with us. All of the children were healthy when they were taken from their home, but when herded into extremely crowded quarters with an artificial environment (lighting on 24 hours a day, no fresh air, no sunlight, strange food, uncomfortable beds, surrounded by strangers watching there every move) they became ill. Chicken Pox ran rampant through the children, diarrhea, respiratory conditions and other illness created grater discomfort and even hospitalizations. The woman were lied to and denied access to their attorneys. They were told that they were going to be moved to another location so families that had been torn apart during the move from the ranch could be reunited, but when the got off of the bus at the new location the mothers of children ages 12 and older were taken through a door and loaded on another bus to take them back to the ranch. They didn’t even get to say goodbye to the children. The children that were left behind were cared for by the mothers with younger children who remained. Living conditions in the coliseum were not conductive to good health for anyone, and the presence of hostile CPS workers who spied on them constantly, kept them awake at night by shining lights in their faces and talking and laughing created enormous stress for the mothers and children. None of them slept well or enough. One the awful day that they separated the mothers and children the level of cruelty and lack o respect for human rights was overwhelming. Crying, begging children were ripped away from their divested mothers and the mothers were put on buses to either return to the ranch or to go to shelters. Most went to shelters because they were told they would be able to see their children if they did not return to the ranch. This, of course, was another lie. Try to imagine all these children from ages 1 year to 12 years, left in that coliseum with only CPS and DPS to care for them. The only others were the mothers who CPS decided were under 18 and kept in their custody along with their children. The floor was literally slick with rears in places. A baby was left in a stroller without food and water for 24 hours and ended up in the hospital. A 4 year old boy was so terrified that he snuck away and hid and was only found after the coliseum and been emptied the next day. I witnessed a small boy, maybe 3 years old, walking along the rose of cots with a little pillow saying “I need someone to rock me, I just want to be rocked, I want to find a rocking chair.” Two CPS workers were following him and writing in their notebooks but not speaking to him or comforting him. Sally and I started toward him but his 8 year old brother came and picked him us saying, “I will take care of him.” He took the child to a rocking chair a held him in his lap. That little boy will always be in my mind. How can a beautiful healthy child be taken from a healthy, loving home and forced into a situation like that, right here in America, right here in Texas? It would take a book to tell about this “incident”. There was so much that happened. This situation was a tragedy and surely illegal. Please pray fro these mothers and children every day. Observations in San Angelo at the FLDS Shelter April 2008 I arrived at the pavilion on my first night and was startled by my feelings of admiration for the women and protectiveness for the children. By the second day, I was ready to run in front of CNN cameras to shout that there was a travesty happening inside those walls. I could not fathom the thought of removing the children from their mothers. Of course I was cautioned not to interfere in a “crime scene investigation”/ The mothers were patient, attentive, and sweet with their children, working within the crowded and difficult environment to keep some control over the behavior or their children, their intake, and there schedule, on the first days I was in the Pavilion, women thanked me for all we had done and did not complain for the mistakes that had been made. They were grateful for our attempts to get air mattresses for the pregnant mothers. Some were friendly and engage in conversation, while others did not welcome our efforts to visit. Some who were previously sullen or reluctant to speak would brighten when they learned we were not CPS; others said they been lied to by everyone and would not alter their viewpoints about our team either. I sat with Audrey while three of her children were removed for six hours of questioning. She cried but then apologized for crying, saying she did not want to be “burden” to her sisters. She also denied feeling angry, even though her eyes flashed at the CPS worker who had denied her ability to speak to her children as they were lead away. She said that remaining serene and polite through such a trial would only serve to make her stronger in her faith. While she waited for news of her children, she returned to her cot and to her other children. Amazingly, none of the other mothers acknowledged her or come to comfort her. (My interpretation is that Audrey has been trained not to fell her true feelings, and that the other woman were afraid to be seen as associating with someone whose children may have revealed secrets.) At the end Audrey (pregnant) was ferried to the shelter while her six children were split among three placement locations. After she was whisked away I sat with her oldest child, Rose, age 12, while we labeled her mothers additional belongings in a bag and hoped it would be delivered to her. Rose was obviously distraught and not eager to trust anyone, though she did tell me that she had heard from her lawyer about the sites where the children would be sent the following day. I saw Jeannette rocking her 4 month old baby boy in a chair on the afternoon of April 23. I could see what I interpreted as anguish on her face, so I approached her and asked how she was. She began to weep almost immediately and I invited her into a screened area where the woman could nurse their babies. She was terribly distraught, and I gave her information about the effects of stress, the likelihood of depression and the possible treatments. Her eyes revealed pain but they welcomed me to continue. I comforted and tried to find some hope for a speedy resolution. I did not get to see her the following day when she and her infant were separated from her older children. This woman’s mental health status is in grave danger, in my opinion. On Wednesday, April 23, I also visited Pauline who told me that she intended to leave the ranch and to move to the closest city to her children, wherever they were moved, in order to be able to visit them as much as possible. She was more committed to her children than any convenience for herself. The next morning 40 woman boarded the bus to the shelter, including Pauline. To my knowledge none of these women actually wanted to leave her home on the ranch, but they felt they had no option if they wanted to see their children. Some of the supposedly underage mothers spoke to me, revealing that they were indeed over twenty but the judge had declared that they appeared younger so they also must stay. Some did indeed look very young, and I also thought they might be underage. One extremely pretty young mother talked to me and said there her name was the same name as her mother. I asked if it wasn’t customary for a woman to take her husband’s name when she married, and she said she couldn’t talk about that and quickly turned away. I had stepped into a sensitive area of conversation. Many complained that this was only a way to prevent them from practicing their religion. They quoted Bible verses and said they had expected to be persecuted for their religion. I told them that we too learned Bible verses, and that despite all their training otherwise, there are some good people out in the world, some who care about these women and their children’s welfare. The children were sweet and well-mannered upon our arrival. They obeyed their mothers and appeared to be healthily and well-nourished. They were curious about us and asked questions about nail polish, hair-cuts, jewelry and about how we spoke. They wanted to be busy and asked to rake, sweep or wash windows, since without toys in their society, these were the “fun” activities open to them. They played awkwardly with balls that had been given to them, though as the days progressed, I saw the children having a wonderful time and developing some skill as they played actual games with CPS workers. The children laughed easily and gave eye contact. They had none of the traditional withdrawal common in abused children. On the last day of my stay in the coliseum (April 24), the mothers had been removed, with the exception of those who were minors or suspected of being minors. The children had cried bitterly on the removal of the mothers, and they were now with strangers. The noise level went up several decibels as crying and running and screaming took over. Children were grabbing toys from others and using toys as play weapons against each other and their “captors.” In my estimation they were acting out their fear and anger. One little boy of about four was frantically running from CPS workers, avoiding capture in every way he could. Once caught, I held firmly in my arms while he wept that he didn’t want them to take his mother Child Protective Services (CPS) Personnel I personally did not see some of the individual acts of rudeness or intolerance viewed by some of the others in our group. I did see some wonderful interactions with CPS and some of the children, as they read stories and played comes. One young man sat two hours, comforting a toddler after his mother was taken. However, some of them seemed to be thoughtless in their dress or in their blunt demeanor. Some were totally invested in the CPS philosophy and others had questions about the wisdom of the plan. However, the CPS philosophy itself was the primary problem. I also saw a woman I know personally had been a prison principal now employed with CPS. She seemed to have retained an attitude that these people were inmates! The philosophy is one that removes ALL children from a home in which only one child is suspected of being abused. Since this sect lives in such a communal setting, CPS interpreted all 460+ children as being in one family. They believed they were rescuing the children from abuse and that the mothers were also guilty since they had not protected the children from the suspected perpetrators. CPS had their primary focus the sexual abuse that was alleged, rather then the emotional abuse that I felt they were creating. CPS said they were worried about safety, so numbers of events occurred in which centered on very strict interpretation of safety. For instance, a mother’s request to use a blender to make baby food was denied, since the blender was considered dangerous. Toddlers standing on their cots or babies covered with blankets in their beds were considered safety hazards and CPS commanded the mothers to alter the situation. The mothers had not been charged with a crime, and yet their cell phones were removed, since, I presume, CPS had determined that there might be conversations with outside individuals to plan to kidnap the children. Also as a safety caution, the children in the coliseum were not allowed to go to the neighbor’s football field to play but were kept on a small, dusty corner of the grounds. CPS showed a disregard and disrespect for the mothers’ culture in various ways. We were advised to dress in ways to build trust and foster communication, but obviously CPS had not been so advised. On the morning we arrived at the Pavilion, a CPS worker in snug red capris was given the responsibility of photographing each child and each mother prior to their physical examinations. Tight, revealing cloths were worn daily by many of those in the Pavilion, and bare arms, feet, and legs were standard, even though FLDS custom is to stay covered except for hands and face. The living quarters at Fort Concho and the coliseum were crowded, uncomfortable, and inconvenient. The cots were to close, allowing infections to spread rapidly. Quickly many children became sick with upper respiratory illness. There was no privacy for even a moment of conversation or solitude. The food was sufficiently different from their normal diet causing digestive upsets. Mothers requested that some of the sugary treats be put away since the children were indiscriminately sampling all through the day. Showers were few in number, generously manned by volunteers from Texas churches. The families had not had enough clothing g for more than two days. So dirty laundry was a constant problem, and again the facilities were meager. One mother told me that CPS had allowed her only one bag to pack herself and six children. I was told that on one night the laundry failed to return the washed sheets and blankets to one of the barracks, and the group had to sleep on bare cots on a very cool evening. Sleeping was very difficult, with great numbers of CPS workers there to watch every move and record all activities. One woman told me that the mothers were afraid to sleep because they feared the children would be removed while they slept. Therefore the mothers arranged for some of their own group to stay awake all night to monitor the CPS workers! The woman told the they were particularly uncomfortable with how many men were assigned to watch them. Nap times were also very difficult, since the light level remained too bright, and the noise level was always too high for most people to be able to fall asleep. On the Thursday morning, April 24,2008, I witnessed a young mother named Rosinith be required by CPS to board the bus back to the ranch, though her young child was in the hospital with 104 degree fever and even though the child’s physician had personally requested the mother’s presence at the hospital. This event haunts me still, and I cannot imagine such a heartless act. I spent hours contemplating the scenes I had witnessed, and I listened with an open ear to the news commentary and special documentaries on television. I believed in a free and democratic society where woman are equal to men and are allowed to make choices and even mistakes on their own. I believed older adults should protect young men and woman and not take advantage of their youth and inexperience for their own sexual pleasure. I do not believe in polygamy and I see that as a proof that the men in this sect see woman as property. I do believe that we should do what is necessary to convince this community to abandon these practices as non-essential to their religion. However, I also know the research on long-tern consequences o removing children from loving parents. I do believe that the emotional abuse of 460+ children must be weighted in the equation. Hill Country Mental Health Caseworker at San Angelo Aug 12, 2008 5:33 am San Angelo, Texas I went the & final week. First day when I got badge was given Tip Sheet on rules & how to handle this population. Upon entering the Coliseum noticed several mothers coming at to our group and hugging them (they remembered them). The 1st family I met the mother knew the older children were taken the day before & she was preparing/packing her things. She allowed me to Interact with her children & read stories to them. One of the daughters looked at my badge & went & told mother. Mother knew I was not CPS & allowed me to take her children to the find scotch tape. CPS worker stopped me & checked my badge. At least 3 CPS workers circled us pretended to pick up items off the floor right in front of us while I read to these children. Met another mother who was nursing her son, whom I’d, met & interacted with before, was trying to nap & was restless due to coughing. Asked her if I Could pat his back & help settle him. CPS worker came up to me inquiring about his mother; Worker went up to her with clipboard & said, “You need to take him to nurse right now.” This mother was breast feeding at this time. CPS worker would not let me take him. I spent time with her & other children. She was animated, scared, telling me, “It’s like CPS is dangling something over our heads.” Other children came up to us & all wanted to know what was going to happen & why was this happening & letting me know CPS was mean. Met 2nursing mothers who were breast feeding & let them know I was there to help. Saw them next day at Seton House in San Angela & they came up & hugged me & were grateful they got to stay with their infants & small children. At least 5 mothers reported that at night CPS circled their beds, held flashlights in their faces & then would sit inches away from them as they tried to sleep. Mothers reported they were scared CPS would take their children during the night thus leaving them & their children exhausted. Reports of no privacy & interruptions at pray time were given, as well. Observed CPS in coliseum sitting in chairs some were sleeping, talking to each other, circling the families, facing the wall not even looking at families. Families reported being cold at night & did not get to go outside, “I wish the tornado would come and blow us back home”, one child stated to me. Mothers were gracious, kind, scared, worried, etc. Children had colds, 7 were arguing at this point over toys CPS brought in. On the bus I was not allowed to help Children/Mothers get off or help carry any of their items. Children without mothers were crying, one asked me, will I at least get to stay with my brother, and he was weeping. It was heart wrenching & an experience I will never forget but, am humbled & grateful to have been apart of. An eyewitness to the travesty of Taking the children Aug 11, 2008 1:48 pm Ft. Concho, San Angelo Coluseum, Texas I am thankful for the opportunity to be a part of such an important event and to be a part of the requisite mental heath services. Many of my colleagues have addressed very valid and troubling aspects of the happenings in San Angelo; therefore I will not reiterate their passionate words. Rather, I will address the vast amounts of hypocrisy I felt I had unwillingly became a part of during this time. Within my own family, we have argued the concepts of the letter of the law and the sprit of law en regards to the FLDS children. First and foremost, I want to address the fact that unlike many of my other colleagues, most of my interactions with CPS workers were pleasant and enlightening. Many of the ladies and gentlemen in San Angelo were genuinely confused as to why their agency was placing so much energy into the removal of these children. On a number of occasions, I saw CPS workers trying to build a healthily relationship with the children and mothers. Furthermore, if they felt that it was better to have me intervene when a child needed the additionally mental health support, they called upon me in a positive manner. As to my issue of the apparent hypocrisy of the basis of the raid, I should address the fact that I am originally from the Texas-Mexico border and spent a number of years working out in the “Colonias” of Laredo prior to my tenure with Hill Country. During my time working in the Colonias and my own personal experiences, I have personally known of a good number of children as young as 11 bearing children fathered by older men as well as by teenagers. I find it strange that, as least these communities in which I am speaking, the Colonias have not been the subject of large raids under the apparent stance that the CPS has taken on the Yearning for Zion compound and its residents. During my time in San Angelo with the mothers and children, the thoughts of the inconsistency created more confusion, as I watched the healthy interaction between mother and child. Many of the mothers tried to continue with their normal daily activities such as education, worship, and chores. I was impressed by their dedication to their children and the needs of their children. For me, on a person level, the most difficult aspect of the entire experience was the apparent lies being told to the mothers. I myself felt the inconsistency in information when we had been told that Special Needs children were to be allowed to stay with their mothers and, yet, by that afternoon, that was no longer the case. This left me in a strange position in which I felt compelled to voice the needs of these children and their mothers. This was met with less then enthusiastic response and after, after I spoke out for the children, I was asked to either leave the bus or be arrested. A Hill Country Mental Health Worker at Ft. Concho Aug 11, 2008 9:30 am San Angelo, TX Dear Governor Perry: I have no allusions that you care in the slightest for the 465 children of the YFZ Ranch in Eldorado Texas, but I do know that this e mail has to be a part of the record by Texas Law of your Administration. I want this letter, written by a member of the team YOU hired to take care of the women and children in San Angelo after they were illegally taken by CPS from their homes. Please make no mistake, if this letter is not made part of the Record, I will bring suit against you in Court for failing to follow Texas Public Records Law. Bill Medvecky I participated in the San Angelo Incident for three consecutive weeks in April 2008. When I first received notification from my supervisor to participate in the incident, I was anxious to take part as I had just received my licensure as a Licensed Professional Counselor, less then seven days prior. However, when I arrived on sire with the women and children, I quickly realized that there was nothing in any textbook that could prepare me for what I was about to experience. To sum it up, I felt as if I was working with my hand were tied behind my back, a blindfold on, and I was leading going on human instinct. I tossed all of my years of experience and textbook knowledge as I merely tried to engage in conversation with the women and children to build a rapport to gain their trust, and help them process what they were going through, and what they were going to experience in the days to follow. It ultimately boiled down to treating people with human respect. And you do not have to have advance training to bigher education to do that. When I arrived in San Angelo the first week and participated in the debriefings, I was taken back by the information that was given to us by the representative of the Command Station. We were informed of how resistant and difficult this population of woman and children were. We were given instructions to “merely observe”, and be prepared for responses such as “I want to talk to my lawyer or not without my lawyer”. The information given was quite the contrary. We informed that our shifts would be twelve hour shifts, from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. The first week in San Angelo, I found the women and children to be quite pleasant. They were reserved, yet friendly when spoken to. Much of the women’s first comments were, “when are we going home?” or “what is going to happen to us?” All I could say was, “I’m not sure, but I can inquire and pass on the information when it is available.” Much of the women stated that the children were missing their school lessons and their fathers. They also asked when they could get their personal cell phones returned to them. The informed me that their cell phones had been taken from them. When I attempted to ask the shelter manager for a phone or if I could let the woman use a cell phone, she commented to me (with the woman present, behind me), “I already told you, no cell phones”. The representative further stated to me “she is being manipulative; I’ve already told her no”. I was embarrassed when I turned around to speak to the woman because she heard the CPS worker’s comment. The first three to four days that I was present at the Concho Valley Fort, the women and children were all well mannered and extremely cooperative. The unit of the Pavilion where I was stationed, my task was to offer comfort and support the women and children, referred to as “guests”. I worked alongside two BCFS workers and at least four CPS workers. Four CPS workers were stationed at the two doors of the unit. For the most part, they sat y the doors and observed the “guests” who were either discreetly breast feeding their children, on their cot, schooling/teaching their children, or feeding their children with food, drinks, and snacks. I was asked by the unit leader to sit outside of the unit, to monitor who was coming and going out. Most of my day was spent taking shift with MH workers due to the hot sun. The second week I participated with the San Angelo Incident, the “guests” were housed at the Pavilion and Coliseum. My task on the second trip was to comfort and offer support to the children who were escorted to the Coliseum, and separated from their mothers. Most of the children stayed united with each other. The older children comforted the younger children when they began to cry and ask for their mothers. The older female children took on the role of mothers. They hugged and consoled the smaller children. It was touching to watch the intense bond these children had, regardless of the fact that they were not all blood siblings, but difficult at the same time. I found it extremely difficult to do my task of consoling and offer comfort when I was an emotional wreck myself. Even to be an observer at the facility was difficult. I could see the women and children being escorted by a string of law enforcement into the facility. They were escorted for the Coliseum into the Pavilion. CPS workers approached the “guests” and asked the women to follow them into another room while the children were asked to follow CPS workers and escorted them to the other end of the facility. As the children became scared and realized that their mothers were not going to return to them, they began to cry and became emotional. CPS responded by placing (bed) cots upright and building a was so that the children could not see what was going on at the other end of the facility. At one point, when the children were all separated, one male child who was about 9 years old, broke away from the rest of the children who were all hurtled say, “you’re the police, help us. Help me get my mother back. She has done nothing wrong”. The police officer could only respond by saying, “I can’t do that”. Once the children were gathered in one half of the facility with wall-to-wall cots forming a was, there were at least four policemen, over eight CPS workers and myself and another MH worker. Our job at that point was to merely observe, as the children found relief and comfort among themselves, and it seemed intrusive to disrupt the grieving process that was occurring. Within about an hour, our next task was to help CPS workers escort children in pairs of two to the restrooms, a few feet away from where they were to the restroom. For about thirty to forty-five minutes, I made repeated trips to the restroom with children and then escorted them back to their area. I also found it intrusive to go into the restroom and wait for the children to finish. The third week in San Angelo was perhaps the most difficult. My main task was to escort the “guests” to the different shelters for both women and children. The bus I was on had two women and the rest were children ranging, form infants who were nursing to children ages 7 & 8 years old. The women were escorted on to the bus first and they were settled in with their infants. The children then joined them, in tears running to the two women. Within seconds, the two women had five or six children they were comforting. After about ten minutes on the road, the children were no longer crying. They were in awe of the bus and the sites on the way to San Antonio. One woman on the bus had a notebook and she documented all of the names of the workers on my bus were helping the two women and children on the bus. At one point, I joined a conversation of two young and relatively new CPS workers. They were upset with their lead on the bus because they believed they were asked to purposely mislead the women about if and when they could get the custody of their children back. Although the bus ride was only about three hours, the trip seemed much longer than that. Children were throwing up on the bus and the smell was unpleasant. The smell coming from the restroom was noticeable from the middle of the bus. Each bus had at least one EMS worker. A police officer, six CPS workers, one lead CPS worker and two mental health workers, and guests. One of the MH workers from the Bexar County informed be on the way back to San Angelo from San Antonio that she was helping a child on the bus when she was interrupted by a CPS worker who told her she was told not to allow MH works interact with the children because they (MH workers) did not want to work with the children. The MH worker interjected and said that was not true. They only thing she did not like was the fact that she was not allowed (by CPS) to work with the children. Overall, the opportunity to work with this population of people was invaluable. It was unique in the sense that I was able to observe the grieving process, daily, for several hours per day, for at lest three weeks. And through it all,, the “guests” managed their grief with dignity and grace, given the circumstances. In the grand scheme of things, there was evident deterioration with regard to behavior, nutrition, anguish, health, etc. However, the “guests” never showed any signs of disrespect to anyone, even if they were not given the respect, in return. ----------- These were only 3 of a total of 11 workers, all of which went home and complained to their agency about the inhumanity taking place in San Angelo against these innocent wonen and children. Now, CPS wants to return these children, one group at a time, to their version of hell. @@History http://media.www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2009/02/10/Features/A.Brief.History.Of.The.Flds-3621141-page2.shtml A brief history of the FLDS Bernard Rudny 2/10/09 December 23, 1805 Joseph Smith Jr. is born to farmers in Sharon, Vermont, who eventually move to upstate New York. @@Holm, Joni The role of the anti-FLDS network came to light in the press’s investigation of the phone calls that apparently instigated the raid. The calls, now widely regarded as a hoax, were made March 29 and 30 by someone identifying herself as an underage bride and victim of abuse named Sarah. On April 18, Ben Winslow of the Deseret News reported that the caller had also contacted Flora Jessop, an anti-polygamy activist and Joni Holm, a woman who helped children who had left the FLDS. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695271689,00.html Is arrest tied to FLDS raid, phone calls?By Ben Winslow Deseret News Published: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:33 a.m. MDT "She really did have us convinced," said Joni Holm, who has sheltered children who have left the FLDS Church. She also spoke to the woman. "I was positive. She sounded like a little girl. I thought she was real," she told the Deseret News. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html NANCY GRACE Tip That Caused Polygamist Raid Possibly Bogus Aired April 18, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET LALAMA: Joni Holm, I think I have you. Safety Net, foster parent to children of polygamy. Again, bless you for what you do. How startling must it be for these children to be moved from one situation to another like this? JONI HOLM, FOSTER PARENT TO CHILDREN OF POLYGAMY: Well, you know, you have to realize that these kids have been taught their whole life not to trust the outside. Already, I know that the CPS down there in Texas isn`t quite understanding that. You know, the pictures that are coming out, they have boys laying next to girls, and that is not acceptable. My concern is when they place them into these homes, how adequately trained are these foster homes going to be? You have to train them because there`s things that these kids -- that these parents do not understand. @@Hoax as trigger http://www.cesnur.org/2009/slc_wiseman.htm State-Sanctioned Raids and Government Violations of Religious Freedom: Revealing Similarities of Constitutional Errors in Both the 1984 Island Pond Raid and the 2008 FLDS Raid by Jean Swankto Wiseman (Attorney, Chattanooga, Tennessee) A paper presented at The 2009 CESNUR Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, June 11-13, 2009 In Texas, the alleged danger was created by the claim of Sarah Jessop, a fictitious juvenile who claimed to be at risk and in danger inside the compound. She was not, nor was her alleged perpetrator who apparently had not been in Texas since 1977. Later it was discovered that the call was made by Rozita Swinton, a 33 year-old unstable woman from Colorado, so the complaint was a hoax.[xxii] But it served the anti-cult purpose, i.e., to trigger the invasion, in the hope of obtaining damning evidence against the FLDS. In both cases the obvious reality was that these two raids were massive and had been planned for months, well before any presenting emergency. Basically the claimed emergencies were a ruse (a clever trick or plot used to deceive others) for a long-anticipated action to search for evidence inside these communities. [xxiii] @@Household ABC News: Texas Assesses Whether Sect 'Girls' Are Adults abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4874676&page=2 The children are being treated the same as siblings of abused children in smaller households, where removal is common, Crimmins said. @@Incinerator RUMOURS OF INCINERATOR TO BURN HUMAN BODY CNN LARRY KING LIVE Polygamy: Real-Life Nightmare or Tight-Knit Family? Aired April 9, 2008 - 21:00 transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/09/lkl.01.html LARRY KING, HOST, LARRY KING LIVE: Unidentified woman who is Carolyn Jessop, former wife of head of ranch excerpt from Banking on Heaven. "And there has been rumors that he put an incinerator in the temple that is designed to burn a human body." THERE IS NO INCENERATOR http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/archives/2008_04_01_archive.htm Sunday, April 27, 2008 Weapons of mass destruction? There aren't any. Period. That the temple at the YFZ Ranch included an incinerator where sinners were burned up.... There is no incinerator at the YFZ Ranch temple and the building was not booby-trapped. @@Informant %%Becky Musser http://www.convolutedbrian.com/the-sheriff-whines.html the weBlog of Brian McCorkle The Importance of Understanding The Sheriff Whines posted on 20 October, 2008 at 15:07 pm However, in a September, 2008 Deseret News article, Becky Musser was named and Doran had stated in court documents that she was the informant. Musser testified against Warren Jeffs, FLDS President and Prophet, starting in 2006. The problem is how a person giving testimony against an FLDS leader can also be a mole in a FLDS community. %%Critic http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,700256964,00.html zxcvbnm | 7:57 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008 Musser, the sister to Elisa was never at the ranch. Great informant! Sarah, the alleged victim, was never at the ranch. Great victim! How many more people that were never at the ranch will testify about what they saw, think they saw, or just pain imagined? How many more witnesses will have never been at the scene? I guess cps can fill in the blanks! No boys were thrown out of the YFZ ranch in Texas. I thought that the "lost boy issue had been settled. Looks like another Flora, Carolyn, Musser Tale sold to Doran. Warrants based on testimony of persons never at the ranch and a raid based on a nonexistant person are bad enough. Lets not drag up more "non evidence about nonexistant crimes. One girl is already in foster care to protect her from a man in prison and another unindited man that CPS can't find find %%Reliable INFORMANT (FLORA) RELIABLE, TRUE AND CORRECT (NOT!) Affidavit: Teen bride identifies suspect as 'spiritual' husband http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/09/texas.ranch/index.html 12:32 p.m. EDT, Thu April 10, 2008 details from the informant, which included the sect's practice of marrying teen girls to older men, were consistently "proven to be reliable, true and correct @@Intent Was the true intent of the raid to use a flimsy pretense for a full search of the ranch for any possible evidence of child abuse, or simply to bring out Sarah and her husband? %%Authorities INTENT WAS ONLY TO FIND TWO PEOPLE Deputy Attorney General Eric Nichols... "There is not a shred of evidence that they thought this might be a hoax," Nichols said. He said the plan was to make a "soft entry" onto the 1,700-acre ranch and that the massed forces were a precaution in case something went wrong. "The intent all along was to find Sarah Barlow and Dale Evans Barlow," he said. src: [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12378967 FLDS sect's lawyers challenge ranch search warrant Polygamy By Brooke AdamsThe Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] %%Defence ...the state's detailed planning before the raid -- which led to the largest child welfare investigation in U.S. history -- showed their intent ranged far beyond officers' pretext of locating the abuse victim and her husband. src: [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12382380 Texas officers defend raid on polygamous sect's ranch By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] @@Internment %%American Indians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanization_(of_Native_Americans)#Native_American_Education_and_Boarding_Schools Non-reservation boarding schools Native American children were often separated from their families and people when they were sent or sometimes taken to boarding schools off the reservations. These schools ranged from those like the federal Carlisle Industrial School, to schools sponsored by religious organizations to some created by non-profits such as the founding of an Indian school in Hanover, New Hampshire in 1769. Non-reservation boarding schools Native American children were often separated from their families and people when they were sent or sometimes taken to boarding schools off the reservations. These schools ranged from those like the federal Carlisle Industrial School, to schools sponsored by religious organizations to some created by non-profits such as the founding of an Indian school in Hanover, New Hampshire in 1769. %%Australian Aborigine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations According to the Bringing Them Home Report, at least 100,000 children were removed from their parents, and the figure may be substantially higher (the report notes that formal records of removals were very poorly kept). It stated: “ Nationally we can conclude with confidence that between one in three and one in ten Indigenous children were forcibly removed from their families and communities in the period from approximately 1910 until 1970. In certain regions and in certain periods the figure was undoubtedly much greater than one in ten. In that time not one family has escaped the effects of forcible removal (confirmed by representatives of the Queensland and WA Governments in evidence to the Inquiry). Most families have been affected, in one or more generations, by the forcible removal of one or more children.[34] %%Canadian Canadian residential school system From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia St. Paul's Indian Industrial School, Middlechurch, Manitoba, 1901The Canadian residential school system consisted of a number of schools for Aboriginal children, operated during the 19th and 20th century by churches of various denominations (about sixty per cent by Roman Catholics, and thirty per cent by the United Church of Canada (and its pre-1925 predecessors, Presbyterian, Congregationalist and Methodist churches) and the Anglican Church of Canada) and funded under the Indian Act by Indian and Northern Affairs Canada, a branch of the federal government. Similar schools in the United States were known as Indian Boarding Schools. The foundations of the system were the pre-confederation Gradual Civilization Act (1857) and the Gradual Enfranchisement Act (1869). These acts assumed the inherent superiority of British ways, and the need for Indians to become English-speakers, Christians and farmers. At the time, aboriginal leaders wanted these acts overturned.[1] Students were required to stay in residences on school premises, which were often walled or fortified in some manner[citation needed], and were often forcibly removed from their homes, parents, and communities. Most students had no contact with their families for up to 10 months at a time due to the distance between their home communities and schools , Compulsory attendance at the residential schools had ended by 1948, @@Interviews http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/253408 from some of the initial interviews with girls at the compound, where when asked about their ages and parents, some girls said they didn't know their birth dates or who lived in their homes, according to Voss. Horror of the Texas Child Sex Cult Ranch By Anton Antonowicz Mirror (United Kingdom) April 10, 2008 Hundreds of children bred for sex Girls of 10 forced to wed older men http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/10/horror-of-the-child-sex-cult-89520-20378179/ Investigators said some of the children were unwilling or unable to provide the names of their biological parents. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD9304F800 Texas drops half of cases in polygamist sect raid By MICHELLE ROBERTS – Sep 4, 2008 SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) Thursday, September 4, 2008 http://freetoseparate.blogspot.com/2008/09/ap-lies-about-flds-raid.html AP Lies about the FLDS Raid The Associated Press has just lied to the world about the FLDS seeking to aid and abet the Texas CPS in their unwarranted, evil, mindless actions against the FLDS, claiming essentially that NONE of the children would cooperate with the CPS so that gave CPS a perfectly legitimate excuse to make orphans out of them. Once authorities had the children at a San Angelo shelter, they refused to cooperate with the investigation, refusing to give last names or identify parents or siblings. CPS officials said they had no choice but to treat all the children as potentially members of the same family. @@Investigations FALSE REPORT SAYS WACO LEVEL CHILD ABUSE FOUND IN HILDALE AND COLORADO CITY http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/04/us/reports-of-abuse-by-sect-are-investigated.html October 4, 2002 Reports of Abuse by Sect Are Investigated Investigators from Arizona and Utah have spent two years looking into accusations of child abuse and other crimes in two towns where polygamy is openly practiced.... news agencies reported that the authorities had found a ''Waco-level problem in Colorado City.'' Arizona AG office confirms investigation, but the report and conclusion was an elaborate fake. @@Island Pond Similar Errors were commited in 1984 Island Pond Raid http://www.cesnur.org/2009/slc_wiseman.htm State-Sanctioned Raids and Government Violations of Religious Freedom: Revealing Similarities of Constitutional Errors in Both the 1984 Island Pond Raid and the 2008 FLDS Raid by Jean Swankto Wiseman (Attorney, Chattanooga, Tennessee) A paper presented at The 2009 CESNUR Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, June 11-13, 2009 1984 Raid on the Church Community in Island Pond, Vermont where 112 children from a common religion were seized by the state for alleged child abuse.[ii] We now know that the State of Vermont fell in line with a written plan devised by renowned anti-cultist Galen Kelly for Priscilla Coates, the former director of the Cult Awareness Network.[iii] Critical to Kelly’s thesis is that cults are a social menace and deserve to be destroyed and his plan provides the steps just how to do it.[iv] With the groundwork laid by anti-cult operatives,[v] the linchpin of the whole plan was to get the authority of the state behind it in order to be able to actually execute the raid.[vi] The plan, written in 1983 and not discovered until 1999, devised coordination between state agencies, law enforcement and the media who coordinated to execute a “grossly unlawful scheme”[vii] with the explicit purpose of “destroying the group” and serving as a prototype for use with other minority religious groups in the future.[viii] Twenty-five years later an even more egregious incursion occurred on April 3, 2008 at the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) Yearning For Zion Ranch (YFZ), in Eldorado, Texas. 439 children of the same faith were seized on a general warrant and their custody was granted to the State of Texas in the first instance.[ix] The similarities between the two raids compel a comparison in order to reveal that the anti-cult movement is still being used and their tactics implemented by state governments to effectively exercise social control over a group with the stated purpose of destroying non-mainstream religious movements.[x] @@It doesn't matter http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695270749,00.html BMar | 9:49 p.m. April 15, 2008 First, from a legal standpoint, it doesn't matter if they found the girl who called. That was reason for a search warrant and they could then act on whatever evidence they found of wrongdoing. But dang, people! You think they should just be allowed to keep on impregnating teen-agers, marrying them off to men four times their age? Do you really Rule of Law anyone? | 12:25 a.m. April 16, 2008 BMar (9:49pm) stated, "from a legal standpoint, it doesn't matter if they found the girl who called." Hello? Do we still live in the United States? @@JEDI "It is totally outrageous to remove the children before they even identified the girl who had filed the initial complaint." Bonnie Macri, executive director of the activist group JEDI (Justice, Economic Dignity and Independence) Women in Utah called the operation totally outrageous to remove the children before they even identified the girl who had filed the initial complaint. @@Jeffs, Samuel six-year old boy with one leg, a genetic defect. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece June 22, 2008 Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? Girls, believed to be the victims of paedophilia at the hands of a religious sect in Texas, were rescued in April. So why are they now back with their alleged abusers? Bryan Appleyard Six-year-old Samuel Jeffs has only one leg. On April 3 he was taken away from his home and his mother by the Texas Child Protective Services (CPS). His father, Warren Jeffs, is in prison, convicted in Utah of being an accomplice to child rape. On May 19, Samuel’s mother, Sharon Barlow, is sitting in a San Angelo courtroom with her attorney to hear a review of Samuel’s care. She is wearing an ankle-length turquoise dress, cut roughly in the style of a 19th-century prairie housewife’s. She has reddish hair, a pointed nose, sleepy eyes and poor skin. The hair rises in a high wave from her forehead, a thin strand is plaited into a circle on top of her head, and the rest is bundled into a heavy braid. She looks unwell. It is 100F outside, but the courtroom is over-air-conditioned and freezing. Judge Barbara Walther constantly adjusts a thermostat on the wall behind her, but it seems to have no effect. Samuel is well represented. He has his own attorney, a CPS worker and a court-appointed special advocate. This is a review hearing to check on his progress. He has the judge on his side too. She asks searching questions about his medical care. She sympathises with his handicap. The judge had polio as a child and wears callipers. Daily she hauls herself onto her dais, from which she presides over this monumental, unprecedented case. For Samuel is not the only child involved. There are another 460-plus children, all taken in one night from the Yearning for Zion (YFZ) ranch by the CPS, sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers. The ranch, which belongs to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), is near Eldorado (pronounced locally Eldoraydo), 45 miles south of here. They were being saved from what was alleged to be an abusive environment “Why,” asks the judge, “does he have only one leg?” The lawyers look at each other and eventually agree on a genetic defect. As the legal wrangling ends, Samuel’s attorney rises to make one last, important point. “He’s a great little guy!” @@Jeffs, Warren Notorious convicted sex criminal, 10 most wanted FBI. FLDS prophet, criminal, pedophile, led violent abusive cult. Or unjustly persecuted prophet of FLDS, according to FLDS member "Allen Steed, if exonerated is the only candidate possible for the supposed rape of Elissa Wall. If he did NOT rape Elissa, no one did. Warren Jeffs can't have been an accomplice to a rape that wasn't planned and wasn't encouraged and in fact DID NOT OCCUR." http://hughmcbryde.blogspot.com/2008/12/allen-steed-update.html if Allen is the only man Warren could have assisted in "raping" Elissa Wall, albeit by proxy, and if Allen is never shown to have raped Elissa, how can Warren be guilty of anything? @@Jessop George Knapp, Investigative Reporter Polygamy Possible in One Las Vegas Neighborhood http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=4937132 "The name Jessop is practically synonymous with polygamy. Decades ago, patriarch Joseph Smith Jessop helped lead the split with the Mormon Church. In the communities of Hilldale and Colorado City, nearly everyone is related to the Jessops, who are among the most devout supporters of the fugitive prophet Warren Jeffs. " @@Jessop, Barbara mother of 14 yr old girl, Merrianne, believed to be Jeffs child bride at age 12. Foster care for Jeffs' apparent child bride By Ben Winslow Deseret News Wednesday, Aug. 20, 2008 12:14 a.m. MDT 119 SAN ANGELO, Texas — A 14-year-old girl believed to have been married to Fundamentalist LDS Church leader Warren Jeffs is back in foster care http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,700252061,00.html 11 year old brother http://e.a.cnn.net/2008/CRIME/08/19/polygamy.foster.care/index.html FLDS leader's alleged bride, 14, sent to foster careStory Highlights Texas judge cites evidence that girl was an underage bride Authorities: Polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs married girl when she was 12 Mom of Jeffs' alleged teen wife decries separation By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Article Last Updated: 08/22/2008 http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_10273216 The video, taken by a relative, shows the girl clinging to her mother, sobbing, in a vehicle parked outside a state building. Two CPS workers hovered beyond the open passenger door and a handful of Texas Rangers were nearby. "Mother, mother, please don't let me go," she cried. "Mother, mother, don't let them take me. They're not nice." @@Jessop, Betty FLDS teen disputes mom's book Polygamy » Betty Jessop is writing her own account. By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 01/26/2009 11:03:02 PM MST http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11559735 Click photo to enlargeCarolyn Jessop, who left the FLDS in 2003, has a new book about her experiences in the sect. Here...«123»Yearning For Zion Ranch, Texas » Betty Jane Jessop's favorite phrase: "Good grief!" That's what Betty utters as she reads the new epilogue in her mother's best-selling book, Escape . In those pages, Carolyn Jessop describes her daughter's return to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, calling her brainwashed. "It just makes me want to laugh," said Betty, 19, shaking her head. At public school, the "unbridled vulgarity and immorality" were a shock, Betty writes, and the pressure almost unbearable. It was hard "to see how students acted, their language and how teachers didn't do anything about it," Betty said. She focused on succeeding academically in part to disprove her mother's criticism of FLDS schools. "I was constantly told I wouldn't do good in school and that I would be persecuted because of how I looked," said Betty, who graduated with honors. Despite the mocking and questions she got at school, Betty wore the sect's conservative, body-covering dresses, even in gym class http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2009/01/flds-january-29.html Betty texted Carolyn if she had anything to do with the raid - she got not response. Brooke sees disconnect (lie) that carolyn had no contact with betty @@Jessop, Carolyn "Escaped" FLDS bride author of best selling book who cooperated with and essentially cheered the removal of the children as justified, and called the FLDS and her former husband criminal and abusive. Her daughter returned to the sect. %%Abuse Dorothy Allred Solomon, who was born and raised in a polygamist family as the 28th of 48 children, said the first wife in the relationship controls the others. "The pecking order is that the one with the most power, usually the legal wife, controls the other women and often runs the show entirely, manipulating her husband to do the things with the other women that she would like to see done," said Allred Solomon, who wrote the memoir, "Daughter of the Saints: Growing Up in Polygamy." CAROLYN: TEXAS IS ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/15/sect.mothers/#cnnSTCText Tue April 15, 2008 State now a danger to children, sect's mothers say Kathleen is the fifth wife of a sect member, said Carolyn Jessop, who escaped from the sect with her eight children in 2003. Jessop said that she was the fourth wife of Kathleen's husband and that Kathleen had tried to block her escape. Watch former sect member explain pressures » The state of Texas is acting in the best interest of the children taken from the ranch, she said, and the courts need to determine if they are in any danger. "The officers did not go in there because they had a call that there was polygamy going on in that compound," Jessop said. "They had a (HOAX) cry for help from a child. And they went in to investigate that cry for help. (AND DIDN'T FIND THAT CHILD) "And if there's crimes that have been committed against children, then a judge is going to have to rule in the best interest of protecting a child," Jessop said. NANCY GRACE http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/ng.01.html FLDS Compound Child Custody in Texas Courts Aired April 17, 2008 - 20:00:00 JESSOP: Well, I`m just glad that these children`s rights are being protected. And you know, the American public needs to realize this is about child abuse. This is about children. It`s not about religious freedom and it`s not about polygamy. I was with him for 17 years. It was a nightmare marriage. JESSOP: He`s incredibly controlling. He was very abusive to his -- all of our children. %%racist http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695275974,00.html 'Cultural guide' helps Texans understand FLDS children By Brian West Deseret News Published: Saturday, May 3, 2008 Carolyn Jessop said she's not surprised at such comments. "Warren Jeffs has been so racist," she said of the sect's spiritual leader, who is now in an Arizona jail. "What he was programming into kids was scary." Jessop, who grew up in the FLDS community in southern Utah and Arizona, said some of her children attended Jeffs' private school before she and her eight children escaped the lifestyle. One day her children told her, "If you had as much as a drop of Jewish blood in you, you couldn't enter the kingdom of God," she recalled. "I said that 'we're in big trouble,' because my patriarchal blessing says the blood of Christ runs through my veins — and he was Jewish," @@Jessop, Flora Escaped troubled anti-FLDS activist who has been blamed by bloggers and FLDS for planting the seeds and fanning the flames of the ranch raid. Warned Eldorado in 2004, likely the "reliable source" used by the Sherriff, took the "twin sister" call for Arizona, suspected something was up, but passed it on anyways. Many TV appearances. Along with Carolyn one of the primary "apostate" serving as indian scout and cheering on removal of FLDS children from the ranch. %%book FLDS woman keeping focus on events By Walt Nett | A-J LOCAL NEWS EDITOR Saturday, June 13, 2009 Story last updated at 6/13/2009 - 3:58 am http://lubbockonline.com/stories/061309/loc_450493674.shtml Flora Jessop is roaming the West Texas highways this week, going from book signing to book signing, and trying to keep a story of a fundamentalist breakaway group from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its Texas compound alive in the public's consciousness. "It's not so much to promote the book as an excuse to talk to Texas people and explain what happened when the raid occurred," said Jessop, who grew up in an Arizona town controlled by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints but ran away as twice as a teenager because of sexual abuse and molestation. %%CBS News consultant http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/20/sunday/main4029277.shtml Finding The Truth In Eldorado 4/20/2008 "The majority of marriages that we're aware of happen between 14 and 16, said Flora Jessup. "However, we do know of marriages that have occurred to as young as 8- or 9-year-old children." Jessup is now a CBS News consultant. %%Swinton http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html NANCY GRACE Tip That Caused Polygamist Raid Possibly Bogus Aired April 18, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET FLORA JESSOP, FORMER POLYGAMIST CHILD BRIDE: Yes. I started getting phone calls from someone claiming to be a little 16-year-old girl in Colorado City. She was not claiming to be from Texas. She claimed that she was the twin sister of a girl named Sarah that was on the Texas ranch, told me that she was her twin sister and living in Colorado City, that she was -- Colorado City, Arizona -- that she was supposed to be getting married in a month and moving to the Texas ranch. She didn`t want to be married, but she wanted to go to Texas to be with her sister, her twin sister. She told me that she was an identical twin sister, went into these elaborate stories about how the two of them used to trick their mother and their father and... LALAMA: Then let me just interrupt you, Flora. The bottom line is that it looks to be that she could possibly be the woman that initiated this monstrous event that`s so sad, but you know, perhaps may end up being necessary. It could be her that started it all. the system absolutely worked in Texas. This child called a hotline purporting to be hurt. They turned the information over to the proper authorities. The proper authorities went to the compound to locate this child and check her welfare. Then when they couldn`t find her, they involved law enforcement, and law enforcement began an investigation to locate this child, and as a result of that investigation, have come up with a person of interest in Colorado Springs, this Miss Swinton. And so I would say that the system absolutely worked in this case. http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2008/04/it_would_be_no_surprise.php And now she’s in the middle of this, which raises a couple questions: how does a mentally disturbed Colorado woman become aware of a secretive polygamist sect hundreds of miles away in Texas -- and more importantly, how does she get the phone number of Flora Jessop? Jessop is a former polygamist Annie Oakley-type who wears a knife on her boot and has made it her life’s work to eradicate the practice of polygamy from America. A noble cause to be sure. But the fact that she is involved in this mess is troubling. Jeffs' attorney to question anti-polygamy activist By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune 11/18/2008 An Arizona attorney who represents Warren S. Jeffs will question an activist next week about her conversations with a woman whose calls have been linked to a raid on a polygamous sect's ranch in Texas. Attorney Michael Piccarreta will depose Flora Jessop on Monday and has asked her to bring any recordings of phone calls with Rozita Swinton, law enforcement in Arizona and Texas and child welfare officials in the two states. The summons asks Jessop for any recordings of telephone calls made between March 22 and April 16 Jessop, an ex-FLDS member, has previously said she received a call from Swinton on March 30, a day after the first calls to the domestic-violence center. In numerous calls, taped by Jessop, Swinton claimed to be a young girl who was being abused by her husband in Colorado City, Ariz. Jessop relayed that information to Arizona authorities on April 4, but they were unable to substantiate the claims http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705264042,00.html FLDS leader's lawyers to question anti-polygamy activist By Ben Winslow Deseret News Published: November 18, 200 %%Statements FLORA SAYS "SYSTEMICALLY ABUSING CHILDREN", "TERRORISM", "CULTURE OF ABUSE" 4/27/08 Inside private world of polygamist ranch Rumors are swirling about an FLDS ranch brainwashing women and child brides suffering physical abuse. What really went on? TRANSCRIPT By Keith Morrison http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24341780/ Flora Jessop: Be aware that this is a group that is systemically abusive to their own children. ...campaigning against what she says is the church's practice of fostering an environment where women are abused, forced to marry and bear children at a very young age. It's terrorism hiding behind the skirt of religion. Because this has nothing to do with religion. Has everything to do with a culture of abuse. @@Jessop, Merriane 14 year (12 when married) old daughter of Barbara Jessop returned to foster care. Identified by FLDS, but not mainstream press. FLDS claims "marriage" is mere betrothal, not consumated by sex. http://fallofreynolds.blogspot.com/2009/02/free-merrianne_04.html Wednesday, February 4, 2009 Now all eyes are turned towards Merrianne Jessop, the girl from the Warren Jeffs wedding-kiss photo. The photo may well be disallowed as evidence improperly seized, perhaps eventually making Merrianne’s case moot. ... Numerous medical tests have revealed that, despite an alleged informal religious ceremony between Jeffs and Merrianne, there was NO consummation...Her alleged abuser will be safely incarcerated until she is in her twenties. If, in FLDS religious terms, Merrianne is still betrothed (or “married”), then no other honorable FLDS male will venture near her in this lifetime. If the spirit of the legal moves has been to punish her parents, then why is the punishment being inflicted upon her video: Merrianne Taken Again, Aug. 19 Letter to mother 8-27-2008 http://truthwillprevail.net/index.php?parentid=1&index=126 To: The best mother in Texas From: Her Daughter Merriane in captivity with pictures The Salt Lake Tribune 11/24/2008 http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_11063775 http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/481977/33/ More indicted FLDS members surrender in Texas (Polygamous group's president, prominent members charged) By Brooke Adams The jury also issued a new indictment on Warren S. Jeffs, president of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Jeffs, currently jailed in Arizona, was indicted on a first-degree felony charge of sexually assaulting a child. The Schleicher County grand jury previously indicted him in July of sexually assaulting a child and, in August, on first-degree bigamy. Court documents list Jessop as the bishop of the sect's Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado, Texas. He faces one count of conducting an unlawful marriage ceremony involving a minor, which is a third-degree felony. According to other court documents, Jessop performed a spiritual marriage between a 12-year-old daughter and Jeffs in 2006 at the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado. The girl, now 14, was returned to state custody in August after her mother balked at cooperating with Child Protective Services caseworkers. Jessop posted a bond of $30,000 [[Blogs http://www.flds.ws/2008/09/12/flora-jessop-kills-another-one-of-her-victims/ Every single word Merrianne speaks 24/7 is being taken down so that CPS can analyze it and see how it can be twisted to suit their needs. Merrianne is in captivity right now because she made a simple off the cuff remark about sealings being directed by God. CPS took that remark and ran with it to that freak on the bench. The question about her AAL is a really good one. Where is Angie Trout and what the hell is she doing for her client? We know she’s not getting her clients right to send and receive mail. We know she’s not getting her clients right to see her Mother more than once a week in a heavily censored situation for one stupid hour. We know that Merrianne can’t pick up a phone and call Angie. We know that Merrianne can’t see her siblings. Merrianne’s CASA worker is about as usefull to Merrianne as Tits on a bull. Even the CASA Supervisor doesn’t want to discuss Merrianne for fear of pissing off CPS. With all due respect, Buck CPS and CASA, either Trout has a client that she represents, or she should move over for one who will actually do something besides wring her hands! As for interrogating Merrianne, there are no bare light bulbs and chairs anymore in an empty room. CPS will place a benign person (As far as Merrianne is concerned) with her who will become Merrianne’s “Friend”. It will probably be another “Little girl” in foster care, or a day worker of some kind that really “Hates” what CPS is doing to Merrianne and is “On her side”. They may even revert to the “Good CPS worker, Bad CPS worker” routine to get Merrianne to start talking and hang her with her own idle conversation like they did last time. If Merrianne was not instructed along these lines, she was handed a huge dis-service and will be rail roaded into foster care for the next 4 years. Like her parents, Merrianne is at the mercy of people who will go to any means possible to vindicate themselves, and there are no laws or rights they will not follow or trample to get what they want regardless of the effect on the child. Merrianne is not a person to them, she is their Salvation. 3. Bill on September 13th, 2008 at 8:27 am Bill, do you know for a fact that Merrianne is being interrogated for 6-8 hours a day? Where is her lawyer? I hope that she is at least allowed legal guidance. Actually, I hope she just clams up and doesn’t say anything. I’m so worried about this girl!!!!!! %%press http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_1187fv3jkkfq This is Google's cache of http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_n32/idn2008.08.06.04.17.54.html. CONTENTS: Today, CPS asked 51st District Judge Marilyn Aboussie to end the cases of 32 children "where there is no evidence of underage marriages in the family." (More...) One of the subjects of Tuesday's requests is the 14-year-old girl whose alleged marriage to sect leader Warren Jeffs at age 12 produced the now-infamous photograph of an open-mouth kiss between the two. (More...) The court said evidence showed no more than a handful of girls were abused or were at risk of abuse. (More...) The parents of the girl, who was 12 at the time, consented to the ceremony, according to the affidavit. (More...) @@Jeffs, LeAnn Children of God http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/magazine/27mormon-t.html?ex=1374811200&en=8509d8da8adb6e7a&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink 17 with 1 year old daughter, daughter of Sally Jeffs @@Jeffs, Pamela 18 yr old taken as "disputed minor" Son named Jonathan. art.jessop.cnn.jpg FLDS mom, 18, says state wanted her baby - CNN.com Story Highlights; Pamela Jessop, 18, says Texas placed her in foster care after raid; Jessop's lawyer says state ignored proof of age so they could take baby www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/22/flds.mother/index.html?eref=rss_topstories http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/may/16/court-allows-sect-mother-allowed-to-stay-with/?printer=1/ Court allows sect mother to stay with children By Paul A. Anthony Originally published 04:30 p.m., May 16, 2008 Updated 05:16 p.m., May 16, 2008 .. classified her as a 17-year old... Pamela Jeffs Jessop returned today to the Tom Green County Courthouse in San Angelo for the continuation of a hearing concerning her newborn. The state decided to allow her to stay with her infant, and her 3-year-old, while custody hearings continue. Attorneys for the state and Pamela Jeffs Jessop hammered out an agreement this afternoon that allows the 18-year-old mother of two to stay with both her children while child-custody proceedings continue. Jessop gave birth two weeks ago to Jonathan Jessop Attorney was Natalie Malonis The Polygamy Files: The Tribune's blog on the plural life Sunday, May 18, 2008 More on Pamela Jessop http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/05/more-on-pamela-jessop.htm ''When she was asked to provide the name of the father to her unborn child, she identified him to be Jackson Jessop and provided his date of birth, October 24, 1985 (right again). Pamela Jeffs aka Pamela Jessop also informed me that she had another child, Matthew Jeffs, date of birth August 11, 2006, and that his father's name is Jackson Jessop.'' ''Pamela Jeffs aka Pamela Jessop is not currently married to any man. Accordingly, Pamela has named Jackson Jessop to be alleged father of the newborn baby boy as well as her other child, Matthew Jeffs, his date of birth August 11, 2007 (I think she means 2006). The whereabouts of Jackson Jessop are unknown to the department and do not have any locating information on him. Until the paternity of the newborn infant is established, citation by publication through posting on the unknown father will also be required.'' http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/05/more-on-pamela-jessop.htm TxBluesMan said... I don't guess the fact that she was 15 when she was impregnated the first time matters? By Pamela's own admission, Jackson Jessop, who is over 3 years older than her, committed Sexual Assault of a Child when he impregnated her at the age of 15. At 10:42 PM, subpatre said... "she was 15 when she was impregnated" Your math is horrible. Pamela was 17 when she became pregnant in Dec 2005; not 15 like you claim. Her child's father is 4 (not 3) years older than she is; IIRC this was not a crime in 2005. What with the use of "impregnated"? Get a grip. The woman (that's what she is now) sees him as her husband. Unlike most pregnant Texas (or elsewhere) teens, this woman's children have the same father. A man who's stayed around and acts as a father and husband. Reclassification of mother creates new complications in YFZ Ranch case By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Wednesday, May 14, 2008 http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/may/14/reclassification-of-mother-creates-new-in-yfz/ Based on the birthdates she provided to CPS investigators, she was 15 at the time she and her husband, Jackson Jessop, conceived the older boy. "If we possess credible evidence that other minors in question are over 18," then CPS will release them, as well, said spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner, declining to discuss what specific evidence led CPS to reverse course in Jessop's case. "We are still in the midst of an investigation. We cannot just dismiss them without credible evidence." Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? - Times Online The father of both is said to be 22-year-old Jackson Jessop, whose whereabouts is unknown. But today the CPS has accepted Pamela is 18. She is no longer a child but the authorities ... www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece May 16, 2008 http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/peeking-in-for-minute.html Peeking in for Minute While our hostess walks her dog. I'm obsessed. I can't help it. HEre's something really BIG: In the past two weeks, CPS has agreed that two women it deemed teenagers are actually adults. Pamela Jeffs Jessop was one of them. She gave birth to her second child, a son, on April 29. The state immediately claimed custody of him. In the court filing, the state identified Pamela and listed her approximate age as ''15 or 16 years of age.'' It identified her husband as Jackson Jessop, age 22. Now, here is one thing interesting about that. Pamela was one of the 20 women identified by CPS investigator Angie Voss during the April 17-18 hearing has having been a minor when she gave birth to her first child. Pamela is listed on a chart Voss prepared and introduced as evidence during the hearing before Judge Barbara Walther. It shows her date of birth as 12/9/1989, which Voss used to calculate that Pamela was 16 when she gave birth to her first son on Aug. 1, 2006. Which also means that Texas CPS already knew, before it classified her as a disputed minor and petitioned for custody of her child, that Pamela is 18. A bishop's record, dated March 28, 2007, and confiscated by the state shows Pamela as then being 17 -- also making her an adult by the time of the raid. Nevertheless, Texas included Pamela in its group of 26 pregnant and/or mothering minors. Hmmm. Interesting. Did the state keep Pamela solely to get jurisdiction over her newborn son? @@Jeffs, Sally Children of God http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/magazine/27mormon-t.html?ex=1374811200&en=8509d8da8adb6e7a&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink Sally Jeffs, the mother of 15 children, including LeAnn Jeffs, 17; Pamela Jessop, 18; and Janet Jeffs, 19, who, along with their own young children, were removed from the ranch in the raid. @@Jeffs, Theresa Teresa Jeffs climbs tree Girl represented by Malonis who believes CPS had evidence she had a child and was a child bride, Theresa wanted to fire her lawyer. she has insisted that she is neither married nor has children, wrote letter saying Malonis wants her to tell lies. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/magazine/27mormon-t.html?ex=1374811200&en=8509d8da8adb6e7a&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink The Young Women of the F.L.D.S. - NYTimes.com Stephanie Sinclair/VII Network, for The New York Times ... and sheriff’s deputies — a moon-faced girl with ... Teresa is a daughter of Warren S. Jeffs, the now-notorious Despite a grand jury’s apparent interest in Teresa Jeffs, she has insisted that she is neither married nor has children, though in June her court-appointed lawyer obtained a special order barring any contact between Teresa and a 34-year-old F.L.D.S. man, Raymond Jessop. His relationship to Teresa was not specified at the time. (Teresa has engaged in a public dispute with her attorney, claiming that her interests were not being represented.) For a few minutes, she was not — as has been speculated about many of the young women of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or F.L.D.S. — a possible child bride, or a sexual-abuse victim, or a member of an out-of-touch, polygamous religious sect. She was just a kid in a tree, THERESA JEFFS UNSUITED, MALONIS STILL WON'T LET GO http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705282220,00.html FLDS leader's daughter among 5 dropped in Texas case By Ben Winslow Deseret News February 2, 2009 One of the most hotly fought custody cases is closer to ending. In a filing in a San Angelo, Texas, court on Monday, Texas Child Protective Services asked a judge to "nonsuit" 17-year-old Teresa Jeffs, the daughter of FLDS leader Warren Jeffs. @@Jessop, Carolyn "Escaped" bride of Merril Jessop was paid $250,000 for her book, has cooperated with authorities and publically called for the compound children to be rescued from a community she states " “Escape exposes a world tantamount to a prison camp, created by religious fanatics who, in the name of God, deprive their followers of the right to make choices, force women to be totally subservient to men, to brainwash children in church-run schools." Wrote epilogue to Escape, says she is outraged that court returned the children, and CPS dropped so many cases. %%Barbara Jessop 'I stand on Fifth,' FLDS mom tells court in custody battle CPS wants judge to put 7 children in foster care By Ben Winslow Deseret News Published: August 19, 2008 http://www.deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,700252024,00.html?printView=true Under cross-examination, she acknowledged that her 19-year-old daughter, Betty, returned to the FLDS Church. She also acknowledged she saw Barbara Jessop do things that would be considered "good parenting." Rios suggested Carolyn Jessop was testifying for publicity and money. She acknowledged she was paid nearly $250,000 for her book but said that she has not worked since she left the FLDS Church and has been the sole provider for her children, including one who is handicapped. Some of the incidents Carolyn Jessop described happened as far back as 20 years ago, Rios said. "Have you ever hit your children?" he asked her. "A few times before I left (the FLDS),"... FLDS member Willie Jessop escorted Betty Jessop into the courthouse as the afternoon session began. She is expected to testify today. "We'll see if she has a different story," Willie Jessop told the Deseret News %%Escape Quoting from the jacket of this informative book the publisher says “Escape exposes a world tantamount to a prison camp, created by religious fanatics who, in the name of God, deprive their followers of the right to make choices, force women to be totally subservient to men, to brainwash children in church-run schools." http://www.clantonadvertiser.com/news/2008/sep/09/tuesday-night-book-club-meets/ @@Jessop, Jackson Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? - Times Online The father of both is said to be 22-year-old Jackson Jessop, whose whereabouts is unknown. But today the CPS has accepted Pamela is 18. She is no longer a child but the authorities ... www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_polygamy_section2.html (anti-mormon) FLDS Fathers: Abusive Cowards Article Archived: Thursday, May 22, 2008, at 07:57 AM Stored Under Topic: POLYGAMY - SECTION 2 Original Author Of Article: Tahoe Girl TOP The only FLDS fathers coming forward for DNA testing and court hearings are the ones in monogamous marriages who didn’t get an underage girl pregnant. The men in either monogamous or polygamous relationships who have had children with underage girls can’t be found. They’ve obviously skipped town and are hiding out somewhere. Of course we knew they’d do that. Here’s what I’ve been able to glean from available sources so far concerning some of those underage girls: -Pamela Jessop gave birth to a baby boy (Jonathan) on April 29, 2008 while in custody. She is 18 years old [misclassfied as minor]] and also has a 21 month old son (Matthew, born Aug. 11, 2006). Using the date for her birthday which she provided (Dec. 9, 1989) it’s been determined that she was only 15 years old when her first child was conceived.[in 2005] The whereabouts of her 22 year old husband, Jackson Merril Jessop, is unknown. He would have been 20 at the time of conception. ''Pamela Jeffs aka Pamela Jessop is not currently married to any man. Accordingly, Pamela has named Jackson Jessop to be alleged father of the newborn baby boy as well as her other child, Matthew Jeffs. The whereabouts of Jackson Jessop are unknown to the department and do not have any locating information on him. Until the paternity of the newborn infant is established, citation by publication through posting on the unknown father will also be required.'' Hmmm. The Bishop’s Record lists her as being Jackson’s wife. So maybe just a spiritual wife, not a legal one? Perhaps they tried to skirt the law about underage marriage and just did the spiritual marriage thing in the temple. Then the slime ball would think it’s his right to have sex with his underage spiritual girl-wife. He obviously also thinks it’s OK to abandon her and his 2 children to avoid prosecution. -Merilyn Barrow, age 18, didn’t identify the father of her 1½ year old son (Robert), but CPS think’s it’s Allan Keate, who can’t be found. Allan Keate is 55 years old and has 6 wives listed on the Bishop’s Record. Merilyn and her baby are listed with him on the Bishop’s Record. Robert was born on Dec. 30, 2006, a week before she turned 17 (her birthdate is Jan. 7, 1990), so she was 16 when he was conceived. No wonder Allan Keate can’t be found. He’s not legally married to her, and as a 53 year old man he was having sex with a 16 year old girl. The coward has abandoned 14 underage children and their 6 mothers to save his own hide. BTW, Merilyn has only an 8th-9th grade education. Cheated out of an education in order to start producing babies with a man 37 years old than her. -Sarah Keate Steed Jessop, age 31, has six children (ages 7 months to 10 years) with her husband, David Jessop age 32. She has a marriage certificate and birth certificates for the children. During the court hearing for their children, he wasn’t in the courtroom. Why? Because he also has a 20 year old wife who has a 3 year old child. Priscilla Zitting Jessop (birthdate Feb. 14, 1988) was only 16 years old when her child was conceived (Bishop’s Record indicates she was 19 and her child was 2, as of Mar. 25, 2007). Men who are 28 when they have sex with a 16 year old girl who is not their legal wife go to jail. But not David if he can help it. He’s skipped town, abandoning his wives and 7 children. @@Jessop, Louisa Bradshaw 22 year old mother taken as disputed minor, child Richard Daniel Jessop. Identified as the "13 yr old with a baby" http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/peeking-in-for-minute.html Read on. 22 year old Louisa Jessop is also on the chart more than once, and CPS says she's their 13 year old who had a baby. Angie Voss just gave her a couple of extra kids on her chart. Posted by Headmistress, zookeeper at 5/16/2008 10:51:00 PM http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/may/14/reclassification-of-mother-creates-new-in-yfz/ Reclassification of mother creates new complications in YFZ Ranch case By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Wednesday, May 14, 2008 Walther on Tuesday afternoon granted CPS' request to take that boy, identified as Richard Daniel Jessop in court documents, into temporary custody and set an initial hearing in his case for May 23. The documents list the mother, identified as Louisa Bradshaw Jessop, as "15 or 16" and say she gave investigators conflicting birthdates when interviewed at the ranch. An FLDS spokesman has said that mother is 22. ABC News: Texas Assesses Whether Sect 'Girls' Are Adults They're deliberately ignoring official records that show these mothers are not minors," he said, citing the Utah birth certificate showing Louisa Bradshaw Jessop was born in 1986. abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4874676&page=2 Texas Assesses Whether Sect 'Girls' Are Adults How many 'girls' from Texas sect are really women? Answer could undermine abuse claims Parker claims the state ignored evidence the young mothers presented, including birth certificates and Social Security cards. He said that with their long braided hair, makeup-free faces and pioneer dresses, the women look very young. "They're deliberately ignoring official records that show these mothers are not minors," he said, citing the Utah birth certificate showing Louisa Bradshaw Jessop was born in 1986. Patricia Matassarin, Jessop's attorney, questioned how a person proves her age if officials won't believe a birth certificate or driver's license, which Jessop also gave the state. "The issue is how does anyone prove the date of their birth? We don't get a date stamp when we're born," Matassarin said. Crimmins said many of the sect members whose ages are in dispute don't have documents typically used to establish age, like birth certificates, driver's licenses or public school records. FLDS children were home-schooled. "We've been trying, sometimes with very little success, to get as much information as possible on the children," he said. "What we've said is consistent. We think there was some abuse — some physical abuse and some sexual abuse — at the ranch. This ranch was considered as a very large household." @@Jessop, Merril * Head of YFZ ranch * Husband of Carolyn Jessop picture http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5hn3GYNf5Ut4oOzg7RAB3TOtU3bNw?size=s2 @@Jessop, Raymond Merril 1st YFZ man convicted of sexual assault based on timeline that placed man at ranch and father of a girl in 2004 Plural Life: Raymond Merril Jessop Trial. http://166.70.44.68/blogs/plurallife/category/raymond-merril-jessop-trial/ @@Jessop, Ruby According to anti-FLDS accounts, girl age 14, sister to Flora that was kidnapped and brutally raped, compared to the celebrated kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. George Knapp, Investigative Reporter Polygamy Possible in One Las Vegas Neighborhood http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=4937132 Flora: "14-year-old Ruby Jessop was forced to marry her stepbrother, ran away, but was returned to the sect three years ago;" George Knapp, Investigative Reporter Polygamy Possible in One Las Vegas Neighborhood http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=4937132 Flora Jessop: "These children are not children. They are currency. The boys will be used in the labor force. The females are paraded and they are the currency of every man," said Flora Jessop. "If you think your religion gives you the right to rape children, then your religion needs to be burned to the ground," she added. child bride - Ask.com SearchChild bride gets divorced after rape, beatings - CNN.com ... Ruby Jessop is being held under conditions similar to POW's in Viet Nam. ... This is no longer on www.helpthechildbrides.com, but comes up in searches http://helpthechildbrides.com/stories/rubyjess.htm Where is Ruby Jessop? Forced into a polygamous marriage. Ruby Jessop tried to escape. But she failed. 14 year old Ruby was married illegally and in secret to her step-brother, Havin Barlow, in the polygamous community of Hildale Utah on April 23, 2001. The FLDS Church , which controls this community, expects that when a girl becomes sexually mature, she will be married off to an older polygamous male of the FLDS leadership choosing. Ruby was married against her own choice. 3 weeks later Ruby ran away in an attempt to avoid her fate. She went to her brother's house, where she thought she would be safe. Her brother, Joe C. Jessop Jr., thought he could protect her. He couldn't! http://www.agreka.com/about_elizabeth_smart_on_polygamy.htm but the abduction of teenaged girls within the polygamist subculture is a common occurrence. According to dissidents from the FLDS [Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints] headquartered at Colorado City, Arizona, abductions go on all the time. The latest is Ruby Jessop, age 14. The FLDS priesthood wanted Ruby. When her mother objected, Ruby disappeared and hasn't been seen since. This was two years ago. Because Ruby was born and raised in Colorado City, under the auspice of an evil but influential Mormon priesthood, her abduction has not received a fraction of the notoriety given Elizabeth. http://helpthechildbrides.com/stories/ruby-banner.htm under the banner of heaven p. 53 Antipolygamy activist Lorna Craig: "Craig notes that both Elizabeth Smart and Ruby were fourteen when they were kidnapped, raped and 'kept captive by polygamous fanatics". The main difference in the girl's respective ordeals she says is that "Elizabeth was brainwashed for nine months", while Ruby had been brainwashed by polygamist fanatics since birth" @@Jessop, Rulan Daniel Husband of Louisa Jessop http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=8292438&ClientType=Printable FLDS man seeks wife's release from state custody Rulan Jessop said he and his wife have not broken any laws, and he wants to be reunited with his family. AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) -- A member of the Yearning for Zion Church was in court Thursday, demanding the release of his pregnant wife and two children. "She is what the DPS is referring to as a disputed minor," said Patricia Matassarin, attorney for Rulan Jessop. "We have a birth certificate, driver's license, all kinds of things demonstrating her age." Louisa Jessop's age has not prompted the state to release her from custody. She is with her daughter Amber Rose and 2-year-old son, Rulan Frederick. @@Jessop, Willie %%Quotes FLDS trial dates scheduled; Swinton hearing delayed By Ben Winslow Deseret News Published: Monday, Jan. 12, 2009 4:58 p.m. MST http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705277102,00.html Trial dates have been scheduled for a group of men http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/481977/47/#new "Our belief all along is that law enforcement was never here looking for someone, it was an agenda," FLDS member and spokesman Willie Jessop told the Deseret News after court was over. "We were concerned about their motives before they ever even got in the gate. @@King, Larry KING: THEY WEREN'T RAPED, THEY WEREN'T MARRIED WHEN THEY WERE 16 THIS IS AN INJUSTICE http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/lkl.01.html Polygamy: Shocking Testimony Aired April 17, 2008 - 21:00 ET But, Mike, what do you make of the number of mothers we had on last night and many others who are saying they haven't done anything wrong? Their kids have been taken away. That's wrong. They weren't raped. They weren't married when they were 16. This is an injustice. @@Largest case Not just the largest Texas case, largest in US history. "THE LARGEST CHILD WELFARE INVESTIGATION IN U.S. HISTORY" ...led to the largest child welfare investigation in U.S. history [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12382380 Texas officers defend raid on polygamous sect's ranch By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] "The single biggest child protective bust in U.S. history" http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html Tip That Caused Polygamist Raid Possibly Bogus Aired April 18, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET PAT LALAMA, GUEST HOST: The single biggest child protective bust in U.S. history all comes down after a secret cell phone call for help, @@Law %%CPS http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/648908/1/#new 2500 CPS Cooperation with Law Enforcement Officials 2510 CPS Roles During Criminal and Civil Investigations CPS September 2006 CPS has policies about notifying and cooperating with law enforcement agencies to: · ensure CPS compliance with statutory requirements; · clarify that CPS is responsible for conducting civil investigations to protect children and that law enforcement agencies are responsible for conducting criminal investigations of alleged harm or injury to children; and · facilitate joint investigations with law enforcement required by statute. A criminal investigation may not substitute for the civil investigation required by law, except when law enforcement is willing to conduct investigations for CPS in unregulated family day homes. During a criminal investigation of child abuse and neglect, CPS staff cooperate with the county or district attorney, law enforcement officials, and HHSC's Office of the Inspector General. Staff must not act as law enforcement agents, however, by gathering evidence or talking to parents, children, or collaterals for the sole purpose of criminal investigation. Exception: A CPS worker may question a particular child who is the victim of or witness to abuse or neglect if requested by a law enforcement official, court, or grand jury. The request must be based on the worker's expertise in interviewing children to protect the child's emotional health. This type of request is a non-casework or administrative special request. See 2372 Special Requests (Administrative). %%Family Code http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/FA/content/htm/fa.005.00.000262.00.htm#262.201.00 § 262.108. UNACCEPTABLE FACILITIES FOR HOUSING CHILD. When a child is taken into possession under this chapter, that child may not be held in isolation or in a jail, juvenile detention facility, or other secure detention facility. Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 20, § 1, eff. April 20, 1995. Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1374, § 9, eff. Sept. 1, 1997. § 262.107. STANDARD FOR DECISION AT INITIAL HEARING AFTER TAKING POSSESSION OF CHILD WITHOUT A COURT ORDER IN EMERGENCY. (a) The court shall order the return of the child at the initial hearing regarding a child taken in possession without a court order by a governmental entity unless the court is satisfied that: (1) there is a continuing danger to the physical health or safety of the child if the child is returned to the parent, managing conservator, possessory conservator, guardian, caretaker, or custodian who is presently entitled to possession of the child or the evidence shows that the child has been the victim of sexual abuse on one or more occasions and that there is a substantial risk that the child will be the victim of sexual abuse in the future; (2) continuation of the child in the home would be contrary to the child's welfare; and (3) reasonable efforts, consistent with the circumstances and providing for the safety of the child, were made to prevent or eliminate the need for removal of the child. (b) In determining whether there is a continuing danger to the physical health or safety of a child, the court may consider whether the household to which the child would be returned includes a person who has: (1) abused or neglected another child in a manner that caused serious injury to or the death of the other child; or (2) sexually abused another child. %%Marriage http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001153/posts Utah lessons applied in raid (FLDS) The "Award Winning" Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | Sunday, April 13, 2008 | Dan Kelley Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:36:24 PM by Paleo Conservative Alarmed that the sect's members were building a compound, Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff urged Texas lawmakers in 2005 to strengthen its laws. He described the sect in stark terms. "Imagine a community run as a theocracy, where women are considered nothing but property," Shurtleff told the Legislature, "where women have two purposes -- to please their man sexually and have children." Rep. Harvey Hilderbran, R-Kerrville, the sponsor of the legislation, says his bill gave authorities the legal basis to enter the compound. He argues that the girl whose outcry of abuse resulted in the raid may not have qualified as a victim under previous statutes. Before 2005, Texas law allowed girls as young as 14 to marry with the permission of their parents. "We know based on some of the cases -- the main case -- the girl is 16 now, but we know that she wasn't 16 when she was impregnated," Hilderbran said. "This is a good policy change that led to intervention by the state." From http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/04/as-dna-testing-begins-for-flds-members.html The specific laws in that bill that apply to the polygamist FLDS sect. Prohibits marriage of people younger than 16. Requires parental consent of people 16-17; Prohibits marriage between current and former stepchildren and stepparents; Provides for felony prosecution of parents who allow children younger than 16 to marry; Allows for prosecution of people who perform wedding ceremonies for people younger than 16; Prohibits people from being in a common-law marriage if they are already married; Makes having sex with first cousins a second-degree felony, while other forms of incest may be considered third-degree felonies; Voids marriages in which one of the parties is underage, meaning that sexual acts committed during those marriages can be considered felonies. http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4874676&page=2 In Texas, girls who are younger than 17 generally cannot consent to sex with adult men. http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/fa.toc.htm Texas statues family code http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/FA/content/htm/fa.001.00.000002.00.htm#2.101.00 § 2.102. PARENTAL CONSENT FOR UNDERAGE APPLICANT. (a) If an applicant is 16 years of age or older but under 18 years of age, the county clerk shall issue the license if parental consent is given as provided by this section. (b) Parental consent must be evidenced by a written declaration on a form supplied by the county clerk in which the person consents to the marriage and swears that the person is a parent (if there is no person who has the court-ordered right to consent to marriage for the applicant) or a person who has the court-ordered right to consent to marriage for the applicant (whether an individual, authorized agency, or court). http://www.childbrides.org/raid.html According to Texas law, a girl younger than 17 cannot consent to have sex unless her partner is less than three years older than she, or she is married. Girls younger than 16, however, cannot be married, even with parental consent. http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn When the FLDS moved to Texas, state law permitted girls the age of 14 to marry with the permission of their parents, thus, presumably, they were in full compliance with the law. Alienated Wannabe | Homepage | 04.25.08 - 9:42 pm | # Trouble in the Hills Residents of a rural Texas county were suspicious of a secretive religious sect that moved in several years ago. Now hundreds of children are in state custody, as authorities investigate possible abuse. Gretel C. Kovach and Andrew Murr Newsweek Web Exclusive Apr 10, 2008 | Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET Apr 10, 2008 http://www.newsweek.com/id/131379/output/print Texas Rep. Harvey Hilderbran of Kerrville, alarmed by reports from Eldorado, the Utah attorney general and sect members who had fled the group, helped push new legislation into law in 2005 that raised the legal age of consent to marry in Texas from 14 to 16, that made it illegal for stepparents to marry their children and made officiates liable for performing illegal wedding ceremonies. "We didn't want to facilitate the things we knew they had been involved in before, including child abuse, sexual abuse, forced marriages, that were clearly detrimental to the safety and welfare of children," Hilderbran tells NEWSWEEK. "It's not in the best interest of a 14-year-old girl to be forced to marry her uncle or stepfather or any other man in this cult, because the men are being rewarded for their obedience with these child brides." %%New http://nccpr.blogspot.com/2009/06/texas-tries-to-legalize-flds-type-raids.html Wednesday, June 3, 2009 Texas tries to “legalize” FLDS-type raids A couple of months ago on this Blog, I noted a solemn promise by Texas child protective service – a promise to, in effect break the law. I wrote that in stories about the FLDS raid, The Salt Lake Tribune and the San Angelo Standard Times both report that Texas CPS says if they faced what CPS spokesman Patrick Crimmins called "the exact fact situation" again, they would do exactly the same thing again – take away all the children. But the Texas Supreme Court ruled that taking away all the children under these exact circumstances is illegal. As in, against the law. Did CPS forget that small fact – or do they just plan to break the law on purpose next time? Under the new bill, SB 1440, all CPS would have to do is file an affidavit claiming that based on information available, a child's physical or mental health or welfare has been or may be adversely affected by abuse or neglect; the requested order is necessary to aid in the investigation; and there is a fair probability that allegations of abuse or neglect will be sustained if the order is issued and executed. The law says nothing about when the child's "physical or mental health or welfare … may be adversely affected." It could be tomorrow, next month or years from now. @@Legal MEN KEPT IN THEIR HOMES 24 HOURS AFTER RAID http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-20-eldorado_N.htm Polygamist ranch turns Texas town upside down Posted 4/20/2008 4:48 AM By Todd Lewan, Associated Press Others wondered if it was legal for the agents to keep the sect's men in their homes the first 24 hours after the raid, without charges. PHONES TAKEN AWAY - LEGAL? Later, at the group shelter in San Angelo, authorities took the cellphones away from mothers who remained in contact with their husbands back at the ranch. Since the women hadn't been charged with a crime, folks asked, did the police have that right? @@LGBT CPS does not discriminate against gays, according to Crimmins it is not a relevant issue. http://www.progressivelabour.org/gay.html Rights for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered workers * opposition to the homophobic exemptions which exclude gays and lesbians who work with children from anti-discrimination protections. * Support for gay and lesbian teachers, youth workers and child care workers. Worker who removed foster child from lesbian couple's care sues CPS Fort Worth Star-Telegram, September 2, 1998 P. O. Box 1870,Fort Worth TX 76101 Fax 817-390-7789 By Rosanna Ruiz, Star-Telegram Staff Writer DALLAS -- A Child Protective Services caseworker who was demoted after she removed a boy who was placed in the foster care of a lesbian couple filed a lawsuit against the agency and several of its employees yesterday. Her actions attracted national attention, and her lawsuit will likely reopen debate about whether homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children or be foster parents. And because of the case, a state legislator says he will introduce legislation that would make it illegal for homosexuals to be foster or adoptive parents. @@lies appareent villian: FLDS actual Villian: CPS Deceit big obstacle in sect case, experts say Issue is how to best deal with groups http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080601/NEWS07/806010644/1009 BY EMILY RAMSHAW and ROBERT T. GARRETT • DALLAS MORNING NEWS • June 1, 2008 AUSTIN, Texas -- Child welfare officials were up against a culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case for removing hundreds of children from a west Texas polygamist enclave, religious experts and former adherents say. comments: "culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case" When I first read this, I was sure you were talking about CPS. No organization I know of, or have ever dealt with is more into a "culture of secrecy" (they confuse targeted families), "unlimited resources" (you are going up against the government here - look out!), "and ... members schooled in the art of misleading ... as they tried to build a case" - this is straight from the playbook of CPS. The will use whatever words, ideas, plans, innuendo, lies, etc. to prove their case. And the lower courts enable them (just as in the FLDS case). 6/1/2008 4:42:48 PM "culture of secrecy, unlimited resources and sect members schooled in the art of misleading authorities as they tried to build a case"
    When I first read this, I was sure you were talking about CPS. No organization I know of, or have ever dealt with is more into a "culture of secrecy" (they confuse targeted families), "unlimited resources" (you are going up against the government here - look out!), "and ... members schooled in the art of misleading ... as they tried to build a case" - this is straight from the playbook of CPS. The will use whatever words, ideas, plans, innuendo, lies, etc. to prove their case. And the lower courts enable them (just as in the FLDS case). beaniekidjacked Recommend (2) New post Reply to this Post Report Abuse
    @@Llewellyn, John R. http://www.agreka.com/about_elizabeth_smart_on_polygamy.htm "The point that I would like to make is that according to FLDS dissidents, law enforcement has been disgracefully lax, and could do much more to rescue Ruby." ELIZABETH SMART By John R. Llewellyn, Polygamy Expert @@Lost Boys http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 8. Millie debunks the myth of missing teen boys. Says the boys she’s talked with all confirm that older FLDS teen boys leave to learn trades, to have a good time that they are denied in the community, or are kicked out for violating rules. Some return later, but some don’t. Fewer girls leave because it isn’t their primary role, in FLDS society, to earn the $$ to pay for the family. The girls learn how to be crackerjack Moms and do a brilliant job of it, by all accounts. "none of them were lost boys" http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn No lost boys at yfz ranch Dear Susan, The answer to both of your questions is a resounding "yes!" Of course I agree with you that those horrible behaviors are abuse. But, I also consider forcibly removing innocent children from loving and caring parents to be abuse. And, I honestly believe that the latter is the greater abuse taking place right now. As for politicizing it, that was not my intention. Instead of only making reference to the article by the conservative radio talk show host, Bob Lonsberry, I should have also made reference to the article by the liberal law school professor, Ed Firmage -- both share my position. The fact is that there is not a neat liberal vs. conservative, Democrat vs. Republican split on this issue. Good people on both sides of the political isle are to be found on either side of this debate. Please see those articles here: Ed Firmage - http://oneutah.org/2008/04/14/po...he-texas-raids/ Bob Lonsberry - http://www.lonsberry.com/ Of the 416 kids who lived on that ranch, a small fraction were involved in underage marriages, and none of them were lost boys. Now, because of the actions of the state of Texas, some of those girls who were just fine on the ranch are going to find themselves in foster homes where they might be raped and/or otherwise abused by foster parents. Some, based upon the odds of what happens in the rest of the state of Texas, are going to turn to drugs or sex to heal the wounds of the trauma inflicted upon them. Some of them who were not going to be teen brides on that ranch, are now actually at a greater risk of experiencing teenage pregnancy. And, where as none of them were lost boys, the odds are now that some will attempt to run away from foster care and become "lost boys" and "lost girls." But whether or not any of that happens, they are all absolutely "lost boys" and "lost girls" in their own broken hearts and those of their suffering parents. Sincerely, Alienated Wannabe Alienated Wannabe | Homepage | 04.17.08 - 2:47 pm | # @@Loyal http://swtexaslive.com/node/6855 The Road to Eldorado: They Saw it Coming May 12, 2008 By Jennifer Litz Flora The only ones who came here were the most loyal followers…they are hand-picked; they are Warren Jeffs’ most loyal foot soldiers; the ones who have given him the least trouble and most money, and these are the least likely to reach out to outsiders @@Lying CHILDREN MUST NOT GO BACK TO GET TRUTH OUT OF THEM, THEY ARE LYING http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/18/ng.01.html NANCY GRACE Tip That Caused Polygamist Raid Possibly Bogus Aired April 18, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET Basically, Child Protective Services does not want these children, any of them, to go back to that ranch because they believe the mothers and fathers are coaching them in what to say and that the children are lying because they`re scared. @@Malonis, Natalie Malonis, Natalie: Villian **** One of the most outspoken and coverted lawyes. She appeared on Nancy (dis)Grace appointed for FLDS children, but working for CPS. She wanted Theresa Jeffs to agree that she had been married and with a child, but Theressa wanted her to be fired for wanting her to tell lies. She evidently did not believe the children should be given back to their families. FLDS observers says she's been demoted and working for a one man law firm. MALONIS FIRED BY WALTHER Judge dismisses attorney, motions related to sect The Associated Press Feb. 6, 2009, 11:48AM http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6250187.html ...in the case of a 17-year-old daughter of jailed polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs. ...Walther dismissed the girl's attorney, Natalie Malonis... Child welfare officials on Monday dismissed her case..... Malonis, who the girl tried to fire earlier in the case, and the girl's mother. Walther dismissed them all on Friday LAW ENFORCEMENT MADE ERROR http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/06/that-one-girl-she-does-not-have-child.htm Friday, June 13, 2008 That one girl? She does not have a child Texas attorney Natalie Malonis created quite a stir a couple weeks ago when she stood in an open courtroom in San Angelo and said she was worried that Judge Barbara Walther might send her client home. Natalie said she had reason to believe the 16-year-old girl, a daughter of Annette and Warren Jeffs, might have had a child who was being claimed by another mother. Now the rest of the story: Not true. I spoke to Natalie today and she said it is now clear the girl has never been pregnant, never had a child. She said the initial suspicion had come from law enforcement, but was erroneous. 11:44 AM | http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 7. Millie doesn’t know what to make of Natalie Malonis. She wonders how the court can justify allowing an AAL like Malonis to substitute her judgment for that of Teresa Jeffs “without going through the steps of proving the client isn’t competent,” especially when Teresa has a guardian ad litem appointed to represent Teresa’s interests. @@Mange, Tela http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-20-eldorado_N.htm The long-feared bloody conflagration didn't materialize. Tela Mange, a spokesperson for the Texas trooper and Department of Public Safety, said agents had been much more "diplomatic" with the sect that they have been in other raids. "Not a shot was fired," she said, "and there wasn't even a twisted ankle in this one." @@Mankin, Randy Kathy and Randy Mankin are owners of The Eldorado Success newspaper. Randy has provided much of the investigation and photos of the group since they first moved in, and even listened into police scanners for information on the raid. They've tried to be fair to the ranch residents, noting that Flora and Carolyn have never been at the ranch, but also helped to build up the atmosphere of mystery and fear. Rating: Hero*/Villian* (LIVE! Photo/Joe Hyde) http://swtexaslive.com/image/view/6851/quarter [http://www.newsweek.com/id/131379/output/print Trouble in the Hills Gretel C. Kovach and Andrew Murr Newsweek Web Exclusive Apr 10, 2008 | Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET Apr 10, 2008] They're followers of Warren Jeffs, there's been multiple convictions, they practice polygamy. That moved my town," said Randy Mankin, publisher, editor and reporter of the weekly Eldorado Success. The problem was a lack of evidence. "We've known all along that it was going on behind closed doors, but no one filed a complaint." As a police scanner crackles with news from "the compound," under the pressed tin ceiling of his dusty Main Street office, Mankin asked, "If they're not doing anything wrong then why are they behind locked doors? Why run from the law? Moses went and confronted Pharaoh." FLORA... NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAS EVER BEEN AT THE YFZ RANCH http://swtexaslive.com/node/6855 The Road to Eldorado: They Saw it Coming May 12, 2008 By Jennifer Litz Flora Jessup; she’ll tell you all types of things, but she never gives you proof. Show me the proof; show me something I can hang my hat on. Richard Holm, he’s more level-headed . . . I know lots of people like that—but none of these people has ever been at the YFZ Ranch. It’s one thing to say we know this is going on—but it happened in Hilldale, Utah, or Colorado City, Arizona. The only ones who came here were the most loyal followers…they are hand-picked; they are Warren Jeffs’ most loyal foot soldiers; the ones who have given him the least trouble and most money, and these are the least likely to reach out to outsiders Town residents were just miles from sect, but worlds apart Web Posted: 04/09/2008 11:41 PM CDT John MacCormack Express-News "We'd kind of gotten on an even keel. Everyone loved them because they paid their taxes. We were here. They were out there and they wanted to be left alone," said Kathy Mankin, the general manager of the Eldorado Success, the local newspaper. @@Marriage %%Age Women's Roles In The FLDS Girls as young as 8 years of age are forced into marriage under the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints, a Mormon sect that also forbids women from crying or laughing. Kelly Wallace reports.
  • Marshall, Bethany: TV psychoanalyst: ""they were probably raped, molested and abused when they were young"
  • @@Marshall, Bethany TV psychoanalyst on Nancy Grace who made up incredible charges of sex abuse for Nancy Grace shows: "they were probably raped, molested and abused when they were young" Rating: Villian ---- PROBABLY RAPED, MOLESTED AND ABUSED WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG NANCY GRACE http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/ng.01.html FLDS Compound Child Custody in Texas Courts Aired April 17, 2008 - 20:00:00 BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: Well, I think what you see is that these women themselves were probably raped, molested and abused when they were young, which caused them to completely disassociate from the reality of how they feel and from what is going on around them. And because of that, they`re disconnected from the reality of this situation. Like the redhead we were just watching, her affect -- she looked so stunned. She`s in a complete disassociated state. @@Mass Hearing http://www.cesnur.org/2009/slc_wiseman.htm State-Sanctioned Raids and Government Violations of Religious Freedom: Revealing Similarities of Constitutional Errors in Both the 1984 Island Pond Raid and the 2008 FLDS Raid by Jean Swankto Wiseman (Attorney, Chattanooga, Tennessee) A paper presented at The 2009 CESNUR Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, June 11-13, 2009 In Vermont, Judge Mahady held some 40 individual detention hearings[xxxvii] on the very day of the seizure and in Texas Judge Walther eventually held an en masse hearing where individual parents and children had no meaningful participation but were nevertheless separated anyway. Both the parents and children of the FLDS were denied due process of law, at great expense to them and the State of Texas, not to mention the actual harm to the innocent children as a result of the seizure. @@McFadden, Lynn http://messengerandadvocate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/flds-affidavit.pdf Investigative Supervisor for the department of family and protective services (man) 4/6/2008 doc "persons' Names Unknown or as listed under parties in the Petition" @@Medical tests http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 4. The widely circulated, independent eye-witness accounts of CPS abuse are just the tip of the iceberg. Millie points to widespread invasive or intrusive medical tests and procedures, some coerced and others demanded, that doctors didn’t think necessary and the FLDS victims did not want. In one case involving one of the pregnant mothers, CPS tried to force an M.D. to approve a bone scan in an effort to establish that the mother was really a minor because CPS thought they could show that her pelvis was too narrow for an adult. After CPS lied to both M.D. and patient about what the other was saying, the M.D. ended up telling CPS to get lost unless the patient would agree to the test. She also says that during visitations, caseworkers would busy themselves trying to “prove” — by looking in kids noses and other similarly intrusive procedures — that the visiting mother was not, in fact, the mother of the children being visited. @@Monica Picture of woman on steps in glasses, redhead. http://kamlon.i.ph/blogs/kamlon/2008/04/18/el-dorado-polygamyst-cult-seized-by-cps/ @@Moore-Emmett, Andrea Villian ---- Anti-FLDS author of God's Brothel: "It alarms me that anyone even considers putting those kids back in that compound. "What we're talking about is a pedophile club." "A CLOAK FOR ABUSIVE AND CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR" AUTHOR OF GOD'S BROTHEL http://defsi.typepad.com/deafening_silence/2008/05/post.html Andrea Moore-Emmett is an award-winning journalist and the author of God's Brothel, a book detailing the history and current practice of polygamy in the United States. She was also the researcher for Inside Polygamy, a documentary broadcast by A&E and the BBC. We spoke by phone and discussed the abuses she uncovered in organized polygamy, the FLDs, and the raid on the YFZ ranch. Andrea Moore-Emmett has been writing about polygamy for over 12 years. "I was the first one to write about abuses in polygamy," she says, "and I kept writing about it until my editors at the paper told me they were tired of it." Her investigative work eventually resulted in a book, God's Brothel, published in 2004. Polygamy, she says, is a problem the authorities would rather ignore. "A CLOAK FOR ABUSIVE AND CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR" http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/93515/behind_the_cloak_of_polygamy/ similar sort of child-rescue effort took place.. "It uncovers how claims of religious and parental rights can be a cloak for abusive and criminal behavior. And it suggests that deference to religion and parental rights must sometimes be overweighed in favor of protecting the safety and human rights of women and children. ANDREA MOORE-EMMETT is author of God's Brothel: The Extortion of Sex for Salvation in Contemporary Mormon and Christian Fundamentalist Polygamy and the Stories of 18 Women Who Escaped (Pince-Nez Press, 2004). @@Moroni flds member? Newsweek response: I think that AW knows that it was a travesty. I wish people knew how the propaganda machine is trying to paint a gray picture to abuse the public. To confuse us with accusations unfounded and contrived. I worry about how we accept our news as a nation. We are free to live our religion as long as we are trying to, as long as it fits a mold. when people begin to pray as many times as Daniel did in the Bible, they had better watch-out. Moroni | Homepage | 09.10.08 - 3:37 pm | # @@Musser, Marie Victim ***** Hero ***** FLDS woman, mother. She was the sobbing woman, 32 clinging to pole on YouTube and news photos. She has written the most complete first-hand account of the raid, separated from her 3 sons. She appears in many press pictures and videos. Legal documents list her as mother of Anne Barlow, Lisa Barlow, Tiffany Barlow, who are not the 3 boys she describes. http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=73 Day by Day Events of the YFZ Ranch Raid Personal Experiences by Marie J. Musser http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559808/Polygamist-underage-sex-cult-case-descends-farce-judge-struggles-control-lawyers-parents.html
    Mormon polygamist mothers

    Bereft: Mother Marie, 32, sobs after being separated from her three sons, aged five to nine

    @@Naler, Gary D. FLDS sympathizer blogger http://blog.thecurseof1920.com/?cat=11 Escape From Flora Jessop: The Story of Val and Laurene Jessop, part 2 Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Val and Laurene Jessop The Escape By October, 2005, Laurene had taken all she could of Flora. “Flora lied to me too many times during the custody battle,” stated Laurene. “I knew by then what kind of person she was, but I had to hold on until the custody hearings were over. After [...] Jul 28Escape From Flora Jessop: The Story of Val and Laurene Jessop, part 1 Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Val and Laurene Jessop On July 26, 1953, soon-three-year-old Val Jessop lay asleep in his bed in the family’s cozy two-room shack in Short Creek, Arizona, on the Utah border. This sparse home was shared by his mother, older brother, and three sisters. But for the adults in this little fundamentalist Mormon community, [...] Jul 6Comments From Article on Flora Jessop Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Flora Jessop Following are some of the replies I received from the article, “Flora Jessop: The Troubled Woman Who Cost Texas $14 Million, and Hundreds of Innocent People Their Peace and Safety.” Each of these echo the very things this report reveals—a people whom, for numerous reasons, I have been privileged to communicate with. Gary [...] Jul 3Flora Jessop: The Troubled Woman Who Cost Texas $14 Million, and Hundreds of Innocent People Their Peace and Safety, Part 3 Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Flora Jessop The Yearning For Zion Raid It’s one thing to stand under a high-wire and try to catch those who might fall, and quite another to climb the pole and cut the wire. If Flora’s purpose is to help those who want to leave the FLDS, and some indeed leave and have the freedom to do [...] Jul 2Flora Jessop: The Troubled Woman Who Cost Texas $14 Million, and Hundreds of Innocent People Their Peace and Safety, Part 2 Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Flora Jessop “Ruby is a Hostage” Let’s now move forward to 2001 when Flora began to dramatically enhance her public slander of the FLDS, becoming its chief persecutor. Like the written account from Martha and the interview with Phil, what you are about to read is the first ever account of actual events that unfolded [...] Jul 1Flora Jessop: The Troubled Woman Who Cost Texas $14 Million, and Hundreds of Innocent People Their Peace and Safety, Part 1 Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Flora Jessop Flora Jessop, the outspoken media favorite and determined critic of the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints (FLDS), has had the advantage and luxury of accruing audiences who want to believe her or are understandably uninformed about Flora’s real life and the FLDS church itself. Therefore, she has been able to say what she [...] May 29CPS Gets a Much-Needed Black Eye in Texas Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment As a Texas-born, Texas-reared, Texas-graduate man who saw his five children born in Texas as well, I have an affinity for the lone-star state. But I must say, while the assassination of JFK was an embarrassment, and the tragic handling of the Waco Branch Davidian standoff was both sad and shameful, what Texas and [...] Apr 29So, Fifty Percent of YFZ Incarcerated Teens Have Babies Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: YFZ mother and child According to Child Protective Services (CPS), of the supposed 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who at gunpoint were forced from their homes at Yearning For Zion Ranch, 31 either have children or are pregnant. Rod Parker, attorney for the FLDS families, doubts those numbers. “I [...] Apr 22The Yearning For Zion Hearings: Duplicity in Action Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: CPS investigator Angie Voss At the outset of this entire debacle surrounding the raid of the Yearning For Zion FLDS community, Child Protective Services (CPS) spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner stated, “This is about children who are at imminent risk of harm, children that we believe have been abused and neglected.” This was only the beginning [...] Apr 18Eldorado Yearning For Zion women experience the most feared words ever spoken: ‘Your children are ours,’ CPS Filed Under Yearning For Zion Ranch, FLDS | Leave a Comment Photo: Marie, mother of three boys “The death penalty of family law cases.” This is how the events unfolding for 416 children and their now-separated mothers were described as the State of Texas and Child Protective Services (CPS) mount their largest single attack ever on families. After being forcibly removed from their homes at [...] @@Negative comments Some pretty mean comments have been posted on the FLDS raid. http://patdollard.com/2008/04/first-look-inside-polygamist-ranch-with-video John Cunningham Oh, such God fearing people. They’re full of shit. Welfare fraud will mostly likely come up. All of the women and children are collecting social services and these people call it “bleeding the beast”. They’re no different than ghetto blacks, those in the swarm from south of the border and muslims. They believe, all three groups do, they will out breed us and we will financially support it. Every time one of their kids pops out we’re experiencing another of the thousand cuts. April 13th, 2008 at 11:53 pm franchie polygamy is the men’s paradise though April 14th, 2008 at 2:20 am John Cunningham Bon jour, Franchie. I see I made one mistake in my comment. I wrote “all three groups”. I meant to say “all four groups”. The fundamentalists, ghetto blacks, swarmers and muslims. April 14th, 2008 at 3:08 am franchie Salut John, apart the ghetto blacks, the others are religious bigots : funny how they all share the “viril” rights April 14th, 2008 at 3:28 am Dan(typical white infadel) Just a thought that I’ve had since this story broke, I do not condone their religion or beliefs, but I can spot MSM spin when I see it, and I know which candidate the MSM’s refuse to vet. And I know we are a nation full of suckers. April 14th, 2008 at 4:58 am Ty Looks like a scene from M. Night’s movie, The Village. I wonder if they had fake, 19th Century accents. April 14th, 2008 at 5:49 am Molly Merrill Jessop can burn in hell. I saw one of his former wives interviewed on O’Reilly and she said that he was regularly abusive. The Kingston clan is another notorious polygamist group here in Utah. About 10 or 12 years ago, a member of their clan tried to marry is 15 year old daughter off to her own UNCLE. She ran away and the father beat the hell out of her when he found out. The father did go to jail for the beating. April 14th, 2008 at 6:41 am sewnsew210Apr 10 2008, 05:48 PM Why do they let this go on? It's like the Taliban - women and young girls are for breeding purposes only. I read one article where a young girl said she was beaten so bad that she has no front teeth. It makes me sick at my stomach. These men need to be hung. What sacred temple? These poor kids. // I couldn't agree with you more sewnsew. They are not worth a can of spit and the world would be a much place without them inhabiting it. Little @@Neon God Skeptical of raid blogger: http://trakker.typepad.com/neon_gods/flds_news_and_issues/ @@New York Times See index of articles: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/fundamentalist_church_of_jesus_christ_of_latterday_saints/yearning_for_zion_ranch/index.html Far-Flung Placement of Children in Texas Raid Is Criticized By KIRK JOHNSON Hearings have exposed the clanking machinery of the Texas child welfare apparatus, which has spent millions of dollars to handle an enormous case. May 20, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, FAMILIES AND FAMILY LIFE, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, JEFFS, WARREN S NATIONAL BRIEFING | SOUTHWEST; Texas: Sect Mother Is Not a Minor By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Child welfare officials concede that newborn's mother held in foster care as minor is actually adult; woman had been held with more than 40 children taken from polygamous sect's ranch in Texas May 14, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Arizona and Utah Officials Reach Out to Polygamists By KIRK JOHNSON In an unusual meeting, top state officials from Arizona and Utah spoke to a packed audience of fundamentalist polygamists and curious local residents. May 10, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: SEX CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, ARIZONA, UTAH, ST GEORGE (UTAH), FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Raid on Sect in Texas Rattles Other Polygamists By KIRK JOHNSON and JOHN DOUGHERTY Rumors of a Texas-style police crackdown are common in the hothouse world of religious polygamy. May 8, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: SEX CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TEXAS, ARIZONA, UTAH, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, REID, HARRY, GODDARD, TERRY, SHURTLEFF, MARK NATIONAL BRIEFING | SOUTHWEST; Texas: Arrest Warrant Dropped By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Texas authorities drop arrest warrant for Dale E Barlow, who is thought to be husband of teenage girl whose report of abuse prompted raid on polygamous sect's compound outside Eldorado May 3, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: SEX CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, BARLOW, DALE Texas Reports Added Signs of Abuse at Sect’s Ranch By DAN FROSCH At least 41 children seized from a polygamist ranch in West Texas in April have had broken bones, and some young boys may have been sexually abused, Texas officials said. May 1, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, SEX CRIMES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS NATIONAL BRIEFING | SOUTHWEST; Texas: Officials Find Mothers Among Girls In Custody By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Texas child welfare officials say that 31 of 53 girls ages 14 to 17 taken into state custody from Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints ranch in Eldorado already have children or are pregnant; state officials took custody of all 463 children at polygamist group's ranch after April 3 raid prompted by girl's call to domestic violence hot line April 29, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: CHILD CUSTODY AND SUPPORT, SEX CRIMES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, TEXAS, ELDORADO (TEX), FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Sect Children Face Another World, but Still No TV By KIRK JOHNSON and DAN FROSCH Extraordinary steps are being taken to reduce the shock of foster care for children Texas seized from a polygamy sect. April 26, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Court to Hear Challenge on Sect Children By DAN FROSCH Lawyers representing mothers from a polygamous sect in West Texas requested that each family be permitted to respond to abuse accusations. April 25, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, CHILD CUSTODY AND SUPPORT, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, WOMEN, FAMILIES AND FAMILY LIFE, DNA (DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC ACID), TEXAS, ELDORADO (TEX), FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, WALTHER, BARBARA Parents of Sect’s Children Begin Submitting DNA for Texas Officials By DAN FROSCH and KIRK JOHNSON Current and former members of a deeply conservative polygamous sect in Texas whose children have been seized by the state donated their DNA for a genetic database. April 23, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, DNA (DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC ACID), TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS DNA Is Taken From Sect’s Children By KIRK JOHNSON The testing is part of an inquiry into under-age marriages and abuse at a West Texas compound run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. April 22, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, CHILD CUSTODY AND SUPPORT, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TESTS AND TESTING, DNA (DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC ACID), TEXAS, ELDORADO (TEX), FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Sect’s Children to Stay in State Custody for Now By KIRK JOHNSON and JOHN DOUGHERTY; JOHN DOUGHERTY REPORTED FROM SAN ANGELO, and KIRK JOHNSON FROM DENVER. DAN FROSCH CONTRIBUTED REPORTING FROM DENVER, and GRETEL C. KOVACH FROM SAN ANGELO. A Texas judge ordered that children seized in the raid of a polygamist religious sect stay in protective custody. April 19, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: SEX CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, WALTHER, BARBARA Busy Day at Court Handling Sect’s Children By KIRK JOHNSON and JOHN DOUGHERTY; KIRK JOHNSON REPORTED FROM DENVER, and JOHN DOUGHERTY FROM SAN ANGELO. GRETEL C. KOVACH CONTRIBUTED REPORTING FROM SAN ANGELO. About 100 lawyers participated in an emergency court hearing on the fate of 416 children taken by the state from a polygamist compound two weeks ago. April 18, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: YEARNING FOR ZION RANCH, CHILD CUSTODY AND SUPPORT, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, SUITS AND LITIGATION, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TEXAS, ELDORADO (TEX), FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, WALTHER, BARBARA Dispute on Treatment of Children After Raid By KIRK JOHNSON and GRETEL C. KOVACH; KIRK JOHNSON REPORTED FROM DENVER, and GRETEL C. KOVACH FROM SAN ANGELO and ELDORADO, TEX. Texas child welfare officials and parents of many of the more than 400 children seized in a raid on a polygamist religious compound in West Texas differ sharply on how the children are faring after two weeks in state custody. April 17, 2008 MORE ON POLYGAMY AND: CHILD CUSTODY AND SUPPORT, FOSTER CARE, SEX CRIMES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, TEXAS, FUNDAMENTALIST CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS Separated From Children, Sect Mothers Share Tears By KIRK JOHNSON; JOHN DOUGHERTY CONTRIBUTED REPORTING. Mothers from the Yearning for Zion ranch denounced the authorities two days before a hearing that may decide the custody of their children. Polygamy navigator http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/polygamy/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier
  • Nikolauk, Mayor John: Mayor Eldorado @@Nikolauk, Mayor John "If they, in fact, were held prisoner out there and were denied access to the outside world, then I think that ought to be changed." (he's talking about being a prisoner on the ranch, not a prisoner of CPS!!) http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/09/lkl.01.html NIKOLAUK: All the folks who we hosted for the weekend are now up here in San Angelo in better facilities than we could afford. And they're all doing fine as far as I know. NIKOLAUK: Well, they're just regular folk. We were in charge of taking care of all the women and children that initially were taken out of the compound over the weekend. And the kids are just ordinary kids. The women, of course, dressed a little different than we're accustomed to seeing on a daily basis. They wear floor length dresses and are very conservative. When they first came in, they didn't communicate much. They kind of kept to themselves. And after a day or two, as were tending to their needs as far as bedding them down, feeding them and in general caring for them, they became a little more easier to approach. KING: But you knew about this ranch didn't you, Mayor? I mean it was right there in your community. Did you deal with them at all? Did you know anything about what was going on? NIKOLAUK: Yes, we knew pretty well. You know, when they first came here and bought the property, they said they were here to buy some property for an executive retreat for a major company. We soon found out that was not true and that's when we started disbelieving them. We have done a lot of background checks on the organization, so we're pretty well read up on who they were. We knew that things were happening there that we would not approve of, but there wasn't much we could do legally, since it was private property. Do you think the children are better off away from the ranch? Mayor, there are some who are saying maybe the children should have stayed. NIKOLAUK: I don't know. My opinion on that is I think the women and children ought to have a say in how they're brought up and how they live. If they, in fact, were held prisoner out there and were denied access to the outside world, then I think that ought to be changed. Mayor John Nikolauk from Eldorado, Texas. @@Nondiscrimination States have policies regarding treatment of CPS clients, but there are few statements regarding hiring policies of LGBT. There are no known agencies which prohibit hiring of LGBT personell or contact with children. WA State CPS non-discrimination statement http://www.dshs.wa.gov/CA/pubs/mnl_case/chapter1.asp#1600 1600. CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND NON-DISCRIMINATION The department shall respect and support the ethnic identity and cultural diversity of the children and families it serves, shall provide culturally competent services, and shall prevent discrimination on the basis of race, color, creed, national origin, sex, religion, marital status, age, or presence of any sensory, mental, or physical disability in every aspect of service delivery. RCW 49.60.030 42 USC 2000d, Section 601: Civil Rights Act of 1964, Titles VI and VII Connecticut 30-9 http://www.dir.ct.gov/dcf/Policy/IntroVol2_30/30-9.htm Non-Discrimination of LGBTQI Individuals Policy The Department has an obligation to ensure fair, equal, and non-discriminatory treatment of all individuals who identify themselves as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning and Intersex (LGBTQI), in accordance with state laws governing non-discrimination. The purpose of this policy is to · ensure that LGBTQI children, youth and adolescents under the guardianship of DCF receive non-discriminatory, safe, affirming and non-detrimental services, which shall include but not be limited to mental health, substance abuse, foster care and adoption, and mentoring services. LGBTQI youth are at higher risks of several health disorders and often do not disclose or discuss sexual orientation and life issues with providers that are not openly supportive · facilitate recruitment and retention of affirming foster or adoptive parent(s) or mentors, and to ensure that all persons, including LGBTQI individuals, are given consideration equal to all other individuals. The Department shall not delay or deny mentoring services, or the placement of a child for adoption or into foster care, or discriminate against any person, including · children, youth and adolescents under its care · biological, foster or adoptive parent(s) · mentor(s) · applicant(s) wishing to become a foster or adoptive parent(s) or mentor(s), who can meet all children’s needs on the basis of · gender identity/expression · marital/partner or cohabitation status · actual or perceived sexual orientation. Legal References: CT General Statutes 4a-60a, §45a-726a, §46a-60, §46a-6), §46a-64c, §46a-66, §46a-70 to 73 and §46a-81a to 81p. http://www.cabarruscounty.us/Social/nondiscrimination.html Non-Discrimination Statement In accordance with Federal law and U.S. Department of Agriculture policy, this institution is prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, age, religion, political beliefs, or disability. To file a complaint of discrimination, write USDA, Director, Office of Civil Rights, 1400 Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20250-9410 or call (800) 795-3272 (voice) or (202) 720-6382 (TTY). USDA is an equal opportunity provider and employer. http://www.cs.state.ny.us/announ/cr_announcements/20-545.htm The NYS Office of Children and Family Services has an ongoing need for persons qualified for appointment to these positions. NEW YORK STATE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER: It is the policy of the State of New York to provide for and promote equal opportunity in employment, compensation and other terms and conditions of employment without discrimination on the basis of age, race, color, religion, disability, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, marital status, or arrest and/or criminal conviction record unless based upon a bona fide occupational qualification or other exception NEW YORK STATE Department of Civil Service announces Continuous Recruitment Examination Salary Grade Beginning Salary Job Rate Non-Refundable Processing Fee Examination No. and Title Grade Salary 20-545, Child Protective Services Specialist 1 14 $35,428 $45,241 $30 20-546, Child Protective Services Specialist 1 (Spanish Language) 14 $35,428 $45,241 @@Numbers %%Revision CPS revises FLDS numbers — again By Ben Winslow Deseret News http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700256619,00.html Published: Saturday, Sept. 6, 2008 1 As of Friday, CPS said it has filed to nonsuit 268 individuals, including the 26 "disputed minors" whom the agency initially believed to be children but were really adults Only one girl, a 14-year-old alleged to have been married at age 12 to FLDS leader Warren Jeffs, has been placed back in foster care after a judge ruled her mother was unable to protect her from abuse (what abuse??) @@Opinions, Anti-flds http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ Unbelievable. That there are people native to America who believe that 14-year old American citizens should become part of a harem just because they are girls. F-king jack Mormons. They should all have been exterminated a long time ago. F-king pedophiles. It’s not too late to stake them all out on an anthill. With wet rawhide getting and tighter as it dries and their eyelids cut off so they cannot shut out the sun. Comment by nk — 4/18/2008 @ 10:07 am MORE HORRIBLE TO CONTEMPLATE BEING HANDED BACK TO THEIR ABUSERS http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ As horrible as it may be for you to contemplate abused children in the custody of “CPS feminazis with an agenda”, I can almost guarantee I find it more horrible to contemplate those same abused children being handed back to their abusers, to be raped by totalitarian old men on an enclosed ranch in the middle of nowhere, with little hope for rescue at any point in the foreseeable future (assuming that the state blows its current chance). As far as the plan to “dump [the children] across the state in Montgomery County” being “torture for children and their mothers” goes, I think you’re going out on a limb to assume that these children will have any lasting desire to remain in contact with mothers who facilitated, or would’ve facilitated (if given the chance), their abuse at the hands of the aforementioned totalitarian old men. And I think any mother who facilitated such abuse (or, once again, would’ve facilitated such abuse if given the chance) has no right to continued custody of her children. I agree with nk. Child-rapists, more than murderers, deserve the death penalty. Comment by Leviticus — 4/18/2008 @ 11:05 am SIT BACK AND WATCH A SICK SLOBBERING PERVERT http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn I'd just rather not think how any true, kind hearted, loving, devoted, God fearing mother could set back and watch or allow some 50 year old sick slobbering pervert to rape her underage daughter. And afterwards consider it her Godly duty done and go back to making more of these angel babies to be yet again delivered like a lamb to slaughter to more perverted demons from hell. States do not just jump in take over 400 children for the fun of it. They had to have undeniable proof and evidence of possibly something far more sinister than has been banded about by media. researchologist | 05.16.08 - 1:14 pm | # @@Palmer, Allison http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/183-removed-from-flds-compound-so-far/ FLDS members bar authorities from temple By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Originally published 05:30 p.m., April 5, 2008 Updated 06:06 p.m., Citing their religious convictions that no nonbeliever should set foot inside the temple, a group of members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have rejected authorities' requests to search the temple for a 16-year-old girl whose complaint triggered the massive, three-day raid, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound. @@Parody http://www.digitaljournal.com/blog/432 A Little Ditty About The Eldorado Kids Posted Jun 4, 2008 by KJ (momentsintime) in World 1 comment sorry folks I couldn't help myself Slip sliding away, slip sliding away You know the more you persecute, the more you see Texas money slide away Whoah and I know a sect, they came from Eldorado They wore their passion for their many women like a thorny crown He said wives, I live in fear My thought of the courts is so overpowering, I'm afraid that the kids will disappear I know a little girl, (who) became a wife These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said a good day I don't share my man She said a bad day is when I lie in the bed And I think of whose turn it is again And I know a father who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons for the things he'd done He came a long way just to explain why he threw him away He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping under an overpass Then he turned around and he headed home again Whoah God only knows, God makes his plan The informations unavailable to the mortal man Were workin our jobs, collect our pay Believe we're right when we're gliding down the highway taking the kids away, when in fact we're slip sliding Texas money away original lyrics: slip sliding away by paul simon @@Pave paws radar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldorado_AFS with picture The Radar. As I approach Eldorado, I notice a strange-shaped block on a hill. This is Pave Paws – a phased array warning system, basically a big radar, a relic of Reagan’s “Star Wars” defence system. It’s where, at 9pm on April 3, men from various sheriff’s departments with an armed personnel character, Swat teams and Texas Rangers mustered to move on the YFZ ranch below. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece June 22, 2008 Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/eldorado.htm Eldorado AFS, TX As a result of force structure cuts implemented in 1995 by Air Force Space Command, Eldorado AS was closed. Components of the facility's AN/FPS-115 PAVE PAWS Radar were transfered over to Clear AFS, AK to make up the new AN/FPS-120 Solid State Phased–Array System (SSPARS). The tallest structure in Schleicher County, Texas, kept watch for invading enemy missiles and aircraft. The 10-story PAVE PAWS radar soared above 10 other buildings at Eldorado AFS, Texas. Manning the radar were members of Air Force Space Command's 8th Missile Warning Squadron. The site was one of four PAVE PAWS stations in the United States and is located 40 miles south of San Angelo and Goodfellow AFB, Texas http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/nssrm/initiatives/eldorad.htm (U) The PAVE PAWS (Phased Array Warning System) at Eldorado AFS provided the Southwest segment of the U.S. PAVE PAWS network. The PAVE PAWS radar provides warning and attack assessment of SLBM and ICBM attacks against North America and provides support to the Space Surveillance Network. The PAVE PAWS Southwest site is a two-faced phased array radar run by the 8th Space Warning Squadron located at Eldorado AFS, TX. The system reached IOC on November1986, and was placed in caretaker status on 3 Sep 95. It is currently not providing data to the ITW/AA architecture. All equipment, including both faces, are scheduled to be removed from the site in FY99 to support the Clear Radar Upgrade (CRU). @@Pedophile "What we're talking about is a pedophile club." http://defsi.typepad.com/deafening_silence/2008/05/post.html Andrea Moore-Emmett is an award-winning journalist and the author of God's Brothel, a book detailing the history and current practice of polygamy in the United States. http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ "F-king pedophiles. It’s not too late to stake them all out on an anthill." Gov Rick Perry @@Perry, Gov Rick http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,700234669,00.html?printView=true FLDS raid costs surpass $14M Texas expected to see more bills from roundup at ranch By John Mortiz McClatchy Newspapers Published: June 14, 2008 a spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry, who has defended the state's action, insisted that the cost to taxpayers is justified. "Any action taken to protect children is never misguided," said Krista Piferrer, Perry's deputy press secretary. cquote2 | Any action taken to protect children is never misguided | Krista Piferrer, [[Rick Perry|Texas Governor Rick Perry]]'s deputy press secretary}} http://www.deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,700234669,00.html FLDS raid costs surpass $14M Texas expected to see more bills from roundup at ranch By John Mortiz June 14, 2008] http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270818,00.html Fallout from FLDS raid is intense Texas authorities defend removal of 416 children By Amy Joi O'Donoghue Deseret News Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 a.m. MDT THIS IS VERY NORMAL, CERTAINLY TYPICAL Gov. Rick Perry's spokeswoman said he was likely briefed ahead of time that the children removed from the YFZ ranch would be separated from their mothers. "This is very normal in terms of investigations where there is believed or alleged abuse, that the children are separated from their parents and they are separated from each other," Allison Castle said. "It's certainly typical." NEED TO SEPARATE THEM TO ENSURE THE ACCURACY OF THE INVESTIGATION She said Perry has been receiving daily updates on the situation. "The governor has been thoroughly briefed and is aware of all the decisions that are being made, and certainly big decisions like this," Castle said, citing the authorities' need to move the children to bigger quarters and "the need to separate them to ensure the accuracy of their investigation." LETTER? WHAT LETTER? As of mid-morning Tuesday, Castle said the Texas governor had not received a letter that the mothers of the children removed from the ranch said they mailed Saturday. The mothers are seeking a meeting with the governor. @@pfluger, Helen Older Eldorado volunteer who thought kids were wierd, primitive, didn't know crayons or breakfast cereal, couldn't eat normal food, wear normal clothes. ConchoValleyHomepage.com Media Player... FLDS Update 6pm: Carolyn Interviews Helen Pfluger of The Eldorado First Baptist ... Local Restaurants Come Together to Feed 300 People At Eldorado ... conchovalleyhomepage.com/media_player.php?media_id=6174 \ see crayon @@Plan Bloggers believe that CPS intended to take all the children before they ever asked questions. I agree, no way they could switch over from asking questions at 11PM to giving the green light to swat teams and foster homes and getting approval for putting a dozen girls in protective custody 6 hours later before sunrise. THEY KNEW THEY WERE TAKING ALL THE CHILREN BEFORE THEY WENT IN http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn What people seem to be missing is that CPS and DPS knew they were doing this raid and knew they were taking ALL the children BEFORE they ever went. Can you imagine what Susan and others on this thread would be saying if CPS and DPS "raided" a housing project in Dallas, Houston, or anywhere else, and took ALL the children from the project? Their posts would not be the same, would they? the children." Bill | 05.27.08 - 1:47 pm | # @@Polygamy %%Evil http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20090709.html The Two P’s of Gender Inequality: Prostitution and Polygamy – How the Laws Against Both Are Underenforced to Protect Men and Subjugate Women By MARCI A. HAMILTON Thursday, July 9, 2009 The Core Evil of Prostitution and Polygamy: the Fundamental Lack of Gender Equality The same sort of calculus sheds light on the embarrassingly low number of prosecutions in the United States of polygamists, especially the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS), whose practices are well-known. These are inherently unequal relationships – one man is involved with multiple women. It is a gender inequality issue first and foremost. In recent years, only Texas has indicted more than one religious polygamist at a time, and states where their population is large, like Arizona and Utah, give a pass to religious polygamists all the time. The (typically male) prosecutors weigh the interests of the men in their "religious" practices far more heavily than the interests of the girls who are repeatedly subjected to statutory rape and the women who are trapped in an aggressively coercive patriarchal universe. (They also value their own political careers more dearly than protecting the women and girls trapped in the FLDS system.) system @@Population Live from the FLDS hearing in Austin By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Originally published 01:26 p.m., April 14, 2009 Updated 02:46 p.m., April 14, 2009 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/apr/14/live-from-the-flds-hearing-in-02/ The agency had been told by law enforcement to expect about 150 residents on the ranch; instead, investigators found more than 500.
  • Pregnant teens: CPS claimed that most teens were or had been pregnant, but NONE were actually shown to be pregnant @@Pregnant teens Pregnant teens: CPS claimed that most teens were or had been pregnant, but NONE were actually shown to be pregnant [iv] "[T]here was no evidence regarding the marital status of these girls when they became pregnant or the circumstances under which they became pregnant..." Texas Court of Appeals, page 5. Only three girls were alleged on the record to be presently pregnant, one is turning 18, one refused to take a pregnancy test, so one girl was at issue as to her age at time of conception. Salt Lake Tribune, "FLDS Attorney challenges Texas count of pregnant minors from polygamous sect," April 26, 2008. Louisa Jessop, 22 was the 13 year old who had a baby. Pamela Jessop was also classified "pregant teen" Third girl refused to take pregnancy test There were NO pregnant teens. THERE WERE TWO PREGNANT TEENS - WHO WERE ADULTS http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=%22one+cps+document+reviewed+by+the+salt+lake+tribune+lists+just+three+pregnant+teenagers%22&d=74261115183675&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=8025b505,cc4292b3 At 7:53 AM, Headmistress, zookeeper said... What evidence of child endangerment did they see? Angie Voss says she saw pregnant teens. On April 29th Darrel Azar from CPS said that CPS had two pregnant teens in custody. Both have now given birth. Both are adults. http://thecommonroom2.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/so-how-many-pregnant-teens-does-cps-have/ THEY DON'T HAVE 20 PREGNANT TEENS. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE 3 So How Many Pregnant Teens Does CPS Have? Posted on April 26, 2008 by thecommonroom2 CPS is coming close to admitting what others have been saying all along- they don’t have twenty pregnant teens: Chris Van Deusen, a CPS spokesman, said, “The only thing we can say is we’re aware that there are 20 girls who became pregnant, and they were between the ages of 13 and 16. Got that? Not “We have twenty pregnant girls, but there are 20 girls ‘who became pregnant.” In case that’s not clear: “That’s not to say that there are 20 now, but at the time they conceived, they were 13, 14, 15 or 16,” he said. “That establishes that there is some sexual abuse here.” “At the time they conceived,” which may have been in another state than Texas- the ranch has only been there for around four years. Texas only raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 in 2005- three years ago. FLDS’ lawyer is claiming that CPS is talking about at least some pregnancies that did occur before the group ever got to Texas: One CPS document reviewed by The Salt Lake Tribune lists just three pregnant teenagers. The court document, also reviewed by The Tribune, includes women who became mothers before the FLDS’ move to Texas or before the state raised the age of marriage, with parents’ permission, from 14 to 16 in 2005. The chart does not indicate whether the women are legally married or the ages of the children’s fathers. Among them: One woman, now 30, listed as having given birth to her first child in 1993 when she was 14. A reference to this situation was made by a CPS investigator without explaining when the pregnancy occurred during the two-day court hearing in which Judge Barbara Walther made her decision to keep the children in state custody. wikipedia ref: "Most teen girls from ranch have been pregnant", MSNBC (28 April 2008). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24356447 Sect teen gives birth with state standing by Of 53 girls ages 14-17, 31 have children or are pregnant, Texas officials say updated 3:56 p.m. PT, Tues., April. 29, 2008 SAN MARCOS, Texas - One of the hundreds of young polygamist-sect members taken into state custody gave birth Tuesday to a healthy boy while child welfare officials, state troopers and fellow sect members stood watch outside the maternity ward. VOSS SAYS (INCORRECTLY) THAT FIVE GIRLS UNDER 18 WERE PREGNANT http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27646 Testimony: Pregnant Teens At FLDS Ranch By Randy Sly 4/19/2008 Catholic Online (www.catholic.org) WASHINGTON (Catholic Online) – Investigator Angie Voss, an investigator with the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, indicated in testimony yesterday that some girls may have had children when they were minors. She further testified that at least five girls who under the age of 18 are currently pregnant. In her testimony, Voss also indicated that it was hard to tell underage teens from some of the younger adults. During the investigation concerns over the accuracy of age and status of some individuals became heightened as members gave different names and ages at various times when they were questioned Voss stated. “If the prophet said they were to lie, they were to do that.” http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ DRJ, come on- Ross *says* that *one* of the girls at the ranch told her she’d heard of a girl giving birth as young as 13 and Ross’ testimony on that point was stricken from the record as hearsay. They have no name, no date, no location- nothing but a Ross saying one of the girls told her that she’d heard of one. Who knows what sort of leading questions Ross asked to get that? It might have merely been, “Have you ever heard of a 13 year old giving birth?” and the answer was “Why, yes, I have heard of it.” That is not evidence of the sort to justify removing 416 children from their homes. They don’t even know if the girl who told Ross that (and so far, none of the other FLDS people know what she’s talking about) knew what she was talking about, understood the question, or even said what Ross says she said. Ross ALSO says that some of the girls supposedly say they knew Sarah, and we now KNOW that the ‘Sarah’ in question is a hoax. So clearly something fishy was going on in that questioning of the girls, whether on her part or theirs I do not know. Maybe they were just trying to tell her what they thought she wanted to hear (and she obviously did want to hear that). http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/peeking-in-for-minute.html Read on. 22 year old Louisa Jessop is also on the chart more than once, and CPS says she's their 13 year old who had a baby. Angie Voss just gave her a couple of extra kids on her chart. Posted by Headmistress, zookeeper at 5/16/2008 10:51:00 PM COURT WOULD NOT ACCEPT PROOF OF AGE - VOSS WAS LYING OR JUST WRONG? http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ So far we have five girls from the ages of 16-19 who are pregnant or have babies, from a total of ten girls whose records Voss presented to the court as having been married from 16-19. The other ‘girls’ are women who had records proving their ages- those were records that Voss and the Judge simply refused to accept, saying they ‘might’ be forged. However, “coordinating attorneys, legal aid attorneys and guardians ad litem announced an undisclosed number of 20-30 young women whose adult status had been debated had indeed been determined to be legally adults.” Whether Voss was lying or genuinely mistaken, or mistaken because she was predisposed to belief the worst, I don’t know. I do know that what she represented to the court was not factual. She did not have the number of underaged mothers she claimed. And she only offered evidence of ten. And she said in court that she doesn’t even know *if she tried* to ascertain if any of the teen boys were the fathers (and there is good reason to believe at least one of them is)- does that sound like the answer a person trying their hardest to be honest and above board and fair would give? Not to me. She might have tried unsuccessfully, or she might not have tried at all. There’s no way she does not even know if she tried or not. Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/22/2008 @ 11:49 am @@Photo miketerry.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html photos of fort concho, courthouse @@Priority 1 Why did law enforcement ask them to hold off on a Priority 1 abuse call. Were they not concerned for the alleged 16 year old who was terrified? @@Purpose of Internment Purpose of internment was actually more for fishing for evidence than proteting children. AP: Texas drops half of cases in polygamist sect raid By MICHELLE ROBERTS 9/5/2008 http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD9304KG02 Crimmins said the agency never intended to take the FLDS children from their parents permanently. "We never brought the kids into care to keep them in care. We brought them into care to do an efficient and effective investigation," he said. @@Salt Lake Tribune "the Salt Lake Tribune -- which had been established as a rabidly anti-Mormon alternative to the church-owned Deseret News" Under the Banner of Heaven p. 255 @@San Angelo Site of Wells Fargo Pavillion, Coliseum, and Green County Courthouse. Latitude 31.22 N and Longitude 100.30 W wp: San Angelo is a city in and the county seat of Tom Green County[3], Texas, United States. It is also the principal city of the "San Angelo, Texas Metropolitan Statistical Area" that includes all of Irion and Tom Green counties. As of the 2000 census, San Angelo had a total population of 88,439. %%Fort Concho FLDS detainees moved here from Eldorado churches and civic center %%San Angelo Coliseum Domed arena opened in 1958. Air conditioned. Next shelter after Concho. http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/jun/18/san-angelo-convention-and-entertaiment-venues/ San Angelo Coliseum: 50 E. 43rd St. Used year round for rodeos, circuses, concerts and other events. Capacity: 6,000 The coliseum is behind the pavilion %%Wells Fargo Pavilion Wells Fargo Pavilion: 4608 Grape Creek Rd., 653-7785, www.sanangelorodeo.com. Recently renovated 20,000-square-foot pavilion is host to everything from dances and wedding receptions to fundraisers and arts and crafts shows. Full kitchen facilities. Capacity: 1,000, next to the coliseum. @@San Angelo Mayor private: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_1685gkkggxhb http://www.newsrunner.com/display-article/?eUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gosanangelo.com%2Fnews%2F2009%2Fmay%2F22%2Freaders-react-mayor-online%2F%3Fpartner%3DRSS&eSrc=Standard-Times+-+San+Angelo+TX&eTitle=Readers+react+to+mayor+online Readers react to mayor online Staff reports Friday, May 22, 2009 SAN ANGELO, Texas — “Standard-Times” readers online reacted as did most others to the developing news of Mayor J.W. Lown’s unexpected resignation on Wednesday — first with surprise, then expressions of concern, then assessments of his time in office. Some comments referred disapprovingly to the nature of Lown’s relationship with a man in the country from Mexico illegally, but most either ignored that aspect of the story or were tolerant of the mayor. @@SANE examination http://www.militarylawyers.org/child-sex-abuse-accusations.htm "The police were called and the child was immediately subjected to a SANE evaluation (Sexual Abuse Nurse Examiner)." Harrison Medical Center http://harrisonmedical.org/services/sane.php A Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner is a registered nurse trained to provide care to sexual assault patients. Harrison SANE nurses are available 24 hours a day to care for pediatric and adult sexual assault victims. They conduct forensic examinations and can serve as expert witnesses. SANE nurses work directly with police, prosecutors, child protective services, and community advocacy programs to provide coordinated care, such as emergency care after sexual assault; scheduled medical exams from non-acute sexual assault; and forensic exams for medical, legal, and child welfare professionals. http://www.antigonishwomenscentre.com/sane.htm A SANE is a Registered Nurse who has advanced training and education in forensic examinations of sexual assault victims. Through this program, on-call SANE nurses provide immediate care and conduct forensic examinations of victims of sexual violence. What is a forensic examination? A forensic examination collects evidence that can be used in court should you decide you want to report your assault to the police. If may involve: Collecting clothing for evidence A head to toe examination Taking photographs of injuries if required Taking swabs from different areas of the body for possible evidence This examination should be conducted within 72 hours of the assault/abuse. It is preferable, but not mandatory, for the victim/survivor not to shower, bathe, douche, use the washroom, change clothes, eat/drink, or clean teeth, etc until after the exam is completed, as this may destroy evidence. Please note, the forensic examination will only be conducted if the victim/survivor has given consent. The victim/survivor can stop the forensic exam at any time. This process takes approximately two hours to complete. Only the SANE nurse(s) and other emergency department personnel need to be present during this exam. The victim/survivor may wish to have a support person as well (i.e. a friend or a sexual assault worker). The police do not need to be present. @@Savage, Michael Ultra conservative radio host, protested that the kids would be put up for adoption like puppies. http://minx.cc/?post=260508 caught the Savage show a few days ago for a bit, and he was wailing about this, a total travesty of justice put forth by the lesbian man and Christian hating CPS outfit. I am still trying to sort out fact from hyberbole on it, but ut does have a Waco feel to it at first blush Posted by: mbruce at April 17, 2008 11:49 PM (h/5U0) @@Schulzke, Kurt Defender of rights, Lawyer from GA, runs IPerceive blog, pro flds rights [gd CPS, judge threatened American foundation] http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/jun/19/cps-judge-threatened-american-foundation/ CPS, judge threatened American foundation By KURT S. SCHULZKE , Special to the Standard-Times Thursday, June 19, 2008 Like Sarah Holland in her June 12 Viewpoints column ("CPS deserves praise for raid on YFZ Ranch"), I have watched the tragic unfolding of Child Protective Services' attack against the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints near Eldorado. My perspective, however, differs from hers. There is more at stake in San Angelo than just child safety. The misconduct of CPS and Judge Barbara Walther threaten the rule of law and due process - foundations of our American way of life. @@Sealed married at 12??? More like betrothed - too early for most people even if it's just a promise, but illegal child abuse if no sex is involved? In Session Message Boards http://boards.insessiontrials.com/archive/index.php/t-334981-p-3.html tophound08-22-2008, 11:01 AM Carolyn's book is about 90% hogwash! And this child who was betrothed to Warren Jeffs at 12 was just that, betrothed. This is not a consumated marriage. There was no "wedding night". Or at least not one with Warren Jeffs. To be betrothed to the prophet is an honor. It assures a very high place in the Celestial Kingdom. I have written extensively about the FLDS practices. I guess no one remembers from one post to the next. MARRIAGE JUST ISN'T ABOUT SEX IN THE FLDS! And there are quite a number of young women, right now, who are 17-23/24 in the community who are not married because they have said either they are not ready of they have said no to a recommended partner. Most member who practice polygamy, and all don't practice, have fewer than five wives. Three is typical. And the last marriage is often no later than when the husband is in his mid thirties. There are many, many monogamous couples in the community. Or couples that remain monogamous for many years and only add a sister wife at long intervals. Barbara Jessop plead the fifth on the advice of counsel. She is heartbroken about what is happening. She knows her daughter is very, very resilliant and will, in the long run, be fine. However, her heart bleeds for her child today. And no one here knows her heart. And Carolyn is simply a liar about this. Barbara is hurting beyond belief. Someone said they want to learn about the group, but when information is given you say it is bull. You seemingly reject anything that doesn't fit your very ugly, negative ideas about this group. And to say they should be more part of mainstream society is the height of judgmental. Who in the heck are any of us to decide our society is better? Should all the Amish do the same? How about all the "Christian Right"? They don't fit "my society" at all. Should I say they are somehow aberrant if they don't stop what I consider crazy thinking and ways and join how I live my life? And once and for all, PLEASE stop believing that these folks are uneducated! Or being coereced to stay. This is a choice! They each are well aware of all the agencies standing at the ready to help them leave and transition. They almost all have relatives living outside the community to help, if help is wanted. They don't WANT to leave! And they aren't coerced into things. I have a friend who was asked to leave to repent for something he did. His wife and children chose to remain in the community. And she is there. Waiting. She has not indicated she wants a new husband. And no one is forcing her to do that. If her husband, at some point, decides he is not going to make his way back to Roux08-22-2008, 11:13 AM tophound I don't want to quote your entire post due to its length, but it is not true that the marriages were not consumated. No, I was not in the room -- I base my opinion on the photo of Warren, his underage wife, and their baby and the "comfort wife" letter from the 12 yr old. Any female who has had an intimate relationship understands the implications of her words @@Search Warrant 2nd search warrant: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_1402hhg3ztc6 html version of the file http://www.childbrides.org/YFZ_Ranch_Search_Warrant_4_6_08.pdf.
  • Sexual Abuse: CPS says (falsely) that it was encouraged at the ranch
  • @@Sexual Abuse Sexual Abuse: CPS says (falsely) that it was encouraged at the ranch CPS says **sexual abuse** encouraged at Texas polygamist ranch at hearing By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News kmbrooks@dallasnews.com 07:08 AM CDT on Friday, April 18, 2008 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/dmn/stories/041808dntexCPShearings.3bd16d8.html Horror of the Texas Child Sex Cult Ranch By Anton Antonowicz Mirror (United Kingdom) April 10, 2008 Hundreds of children bred for sex Girls of 10 forced to wed older men http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/10/horror-of-the-child-sex-cult-89520-20378179/ Some had never seen outside world It was a series of tormented phonecalls from a terrified teenage girl which finally brought the horror to an end. The 16-year-old had broken her silence to report a distressing catalogue of unimaginable abuse. Her voice hushed and barely audible, she told a local family violence refuge how her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her @@Shannon Woman who was off ranch during the raid. She was not allowed to visit her 3 children, even with birth certificates becase she was told documents could be fake. http://patdollard.com/2008/04/first-look-inside-polygamist-ranch-with-video/ Shannon, a mother who was also off the ranch when officers served the search warrants, said she’s also tried several times to see her three children but has been refused. “Every day I’ve called them. They put me off saying they don’t have the authority to let me in and there’s no proof the children are mine. I tell them the children know who their mother is, and I know who my children are,” she said. The 30-year-old says she provided child welfare officials with identification and even birth certificates proving she is her children’s mother. She says she and other mothers were told those documents could have been fake. “I couldn’t believe it. I wondered if we were in America or Russia,” Shannon said. “I kept thinking, ‘How can they do that?’ They’re breaking every rule. They’re breaking every law.” Shannon has been told that her youngest child, who is just 2 years old, clings to her caretaker in the shelter. “She’s sick right now and needs her mother.” Shannon insists the children were not in any harmful environment at the ranch and were well-loved and cared for. “We are not child abusers. We take very good care of them. These are innocent and sweet children,” she said. “The only abuse my children have ever had is since they’ve been taken away.” @@Shannon, Mental Health Worker status: hero Shannon was a likely mental health worker who was kind to families, took broken glasses to Walmart to be repaired. Was dismissed, probably for being too nice to the mothers. Marie Musser wrote that her family was staying at the Wells Fargo Pavilion, which was a big boxy building just across the parking lot from the domed San Angelo Coliseum. She was grateful for a woman named Shannon who would regularly check in to see if she could do anything for her family. Shannon had volunteered to go to the local Walmart to repair the glasses of son Jacob and daughter Mary which had broken during the commotion of moving and setting up for sleeping, and she came back with both fixed under warrantee. It's doubtful that the state health department provided any similar services, though they were now responsible for the health care of the families. The families were sorry to hear when she came to say good-bye and she wouldn't be there the next day. She was likely one of one of the many mental health workers who were "fired" for showing too much kindness to the sect mothers suspected of committing or permitting child abuse. As far as Musser knew and cared "We never saw her again, I pray Heavenly Father will bless her for her many kind deeds to us." @@Shelter conditions by kpbx: http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/485800/31/#new CPS can basically do what they want, particularly in what they deem an "emergency" situation, even having kids sleep in the CPS office if there is no placement available. The residential facilities they use do have regulations they must follow, and those come from the other corrupt agency at TDFPS- Child Care Licensing. CPS violated many of the Standards for such facilities when the kids were in the "shelters". Ex: There is supposed to be 30 sq ft of floor space for each child to minimize over crowding. If a facility or daycare home is not able to provide 30 sq ft for each child, then their capacity is decreased. They had them packed in like sardines- probably why so many got sick. If I recall, they must also have a sink and toilet for every 12 kids. No indoor plumbing at the shelter, or limited. They were using port-a-potties. Not acceptable. Inadequate showers and laundry facilities. I don't know what/when they were feeding them but that could be critiqued against the Standards as well. I read a local Steak House was feeding them early on. Fruits? Veggies? Those poor little darlings "didn't even know what a steak finger" was. Or a crayon. Well call in the military!! They immunized kids and stated it was a requirement- yet there is religious exemption. They chose to ignore that and the parents wishes. It's as if some sadists was in control that wasn't happy just taking the kids, but had to inflict the parents with the deepest pain possible. Re: allowing the mothers to stay... that may well be why they allowed it initially, because they didn't have the manpower to care for all the children. Remember, their intent was to get them in foster facilities or homes asap. Regulations allow a 1:6 ratio for kids over 18 months. Under 18 months, the ratio drops to 1:4. Approximately 80+ caretakers around the clock. As soon as they found facilities the moms were sent home. It also gave them the opportunity to observe the moms. I think they really did expect helpless, ignorant women they could easily manipulate. Using potential loss of parental rights made manipulation of the moms much easier. They lost a kid for a whole day. One toddler sat in a device all day without nourishment and ended up in the hospital. THAT alone would get a daycare center closed down. They are much more lenient with the residential facilities and overlook many heinous abuses because they have to have placements, beds for heads. That's what I can think of off the top of my head. Kidz Harbor's- where one kids was taken by ambulance but it wasn't reported on the news- inspection report can be viewed here: http://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Child_Care/Search_Texas_Child_Care/ppFacilityDetails.asp?ptype=RC&fid=273088 Their record isn't too bad, but the state doesn't cite injuries, illnesses, and deaths. Many kids have died in such facilities, and they remained in operation!!! @@Shurtleff, Mark Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001153/posts Utah lessons applied in raid (FLDS) The "Award Winning" Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | Sunday, April 13, 2008 | Dan Kelley Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:36:24 PM by Paleo Conservative Alarmed that the sect's members were building a compound, Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff urged Texas lawmakers in 2005 to strengthen its laws. He described the sect in stark terms. "Imagine a community run as a theocracy, where women are considered nothing but property," Shurtleff told the Legislature, "where women have two purposes -- to please their man sexually and have children." @@short creek raid Villians: LDS church, state authorties, governer Victims: FLDS families In 1953, government authorities with the full cooperation of the LDS main mormon church planned and executed a raid which arrested every resident of the community of Short Creek Arizona WE WOULD HAVE JUST GONE BACK, WE WERE SO HOMESICK http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy851.html Former sect members recall family unity, oppression Houston Chronicle/April 19, 2008 By Roma Khanna Colorado City, Arizona - Annie Jessop lay sleeping outdoors, hoping to escape the summer heat in the stone home she shared with 40 others in 1953, when authorities raided this polygamist enclave to investigate "open and notorious cohabitation." Officers with flashlights roused the children, including the 15-year-old Jessop, and rounded up the men. Some 260 children were removed. Jessop suddenly found herself moved from one temporary home to another, including a nursing home, a converted army barracks and a Phoenix apartment 370 miles away. "I went from a place where I knew everybody by their first name to a high school of 2,500. It was totally overwhelming," the now 70-year-old Annie Bistline told The Houston Chronicle. "We were so homesick that, if we thought we could get away with it, we would have just gone back." @@Skousen, Joel Hero: FLDS rights symphathizer "Texas plans instead to make every member of the group pay the supreme price: to strip away their beloved children." http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6369 FLDS Raid - A Dangerous Legal Precedent Published on 2008-04-25 Source: World Affairs Brief - Joel Skousen I waited a week to comment on the Texas case, separating 437 children from their FLDS parents, to see if any substantive evidence of abuse would emerge. It hasn't. Even if it had, those could have been handled individually. But no, Texas plans instead to make every member of the group pay the supreme price: to strip away their beloved children. This case is about group punishment. In spite of a search warrant tainted by a false witness (the "Sarah" who doesn't exist), no actual specific evidence of abuse, or any unwilling participants in this polygamous compound, a self-righteous Texas judge had decreed that all 400 + children will not be returned to the custody of their parents. "Criminals get easier release terms and bail than these families. " "There is no excuse for engaging in group punishment for the polygamists when their general record of raising fine, well behaved children is superior to the average public educated family" "Their reluctance to prosecute Swinton is suspicious. A tape recording of the call exists. How hard is it to match her distinctive voice to that call? " Rangers confiscated tons of material on the FLDS in the search of Swinton's home. She had real addresses and real names of FLDS people which is not easy to get a hold of for someone with limited intellect. Because of Swinton's intellectual limitations (friends describe her as a sort of soft spoken simpleton), I would not rule out that Swinton may be under the influence of an agent provocateur working to justify the seizure of children from the YFZ ranch. " "The Homeland Security Apparatus is now prepared to act on the claim that our very genetic material is the collective property of society, requiring us to surrender DNA samples whenever a pretext can be found. (This opens up all kinds of possible mischief, beginning with the claim, recently upheld in New York, that genetic evidence is sufficient grounds for a criminal indictment.)..This is all leading to the Orwellian "Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007" a proposed piece of dangerous legislation where government plans to mandate newborn testing for DNA anomalies and then consider the collected DNA as government property, free to share with whomever it chooses. ...To be fair, they should be arresting every under-aged pregnant girl in the state and subject all known male contacts to DNA testing. Of course they won't do that, proving that they are targeting an unpopular religious group, rather than seeking to protect all underage girls equally. The above-quoted Mrs. Jessop has described an attempt she made yesterday with a group of mothers to visit their children, who are being held prisoner at the San Angelo Coliseum. They were -- to use a phrase made offensive by its dishonest delicacy -- 'turned away by law enforcement.' Which is to say that they were threatened with lethal violence by the State's rented thugs: 'They told us if we went on that property again we would be arrested.' the Department of Protective and Family Services, has announced that as soon as it has extracted DNA samples from the FLDS child captives they will be placed in foster care. Copyright Joel Skousen. Partial quotations with attribution permitted. Cite source as Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief (http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com ) @@Soft entry INTENT TO MAKE SOFT ENTRY, MASSED FORCES WERE ONLY A PRECAUTION IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG Deputy Attorney General Eric Nichols... the plan was to make a "soft entry" onto the 1,700-acre ranch and that the massed forces were a precaution in case something went wrong. src: [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12378967 FLDS sect's lawyers challenge ranch search warrant Polygamy By Brooke AdamsThe Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] @@Stein, Ben Conservative actor / comic commentator, one of few outspoken against raid. "GESTAPO TACTICS, PURE AND SIMPLE" May 11, 2008? CBS Sunday morning news http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh7cE3lB16A Ben Stein speaks out against FLDS raid "incredible cruelty and incompetence of the state of texas" "Look, if there's any evidence of cruelty by these families to these kids, where is it??... This is a nightmare. For no reason except what looks like a crank phone call, the lives of these children have been turned upside down and into a screaming horror movie. Can't someone say the obvious here? Governor Perry, wake up and give those kids back to their mothers until you have some compelling proof and reason to do otherwise. What your state is doing here is gestapo tactics pure and simple." @@Sun Time of sunset, sunrise April 2008 Dallas, Texas 1 Sunrise: 7:15am Sunset: 7:46pm Moonrise: 4:32am Moonset: 3:15pm 2 Sunrise: 7:13am Sunset: 7:47pm Moonrise: 5:05am Moonset: 4:20pm 3 Sunrise: 7:12am Sunset: 7:48pm Moonrise: 5:35am Moonset: 5:25pm 4 Sunrise: 7:11am Sunset: 7:49pm Moonrise: 6:05am Moonset: 6:32pm 5 Sunrise: 7:10am Sunset: 7:49pm Moonrise: 6:36am Moonset: 7:41pm New Moon: 9:56pm 6 Sunrise: 7:08am Sunset: 7:50pm Moonrise: 7:09am Moonset: 8:53pm 7 Sunrise: 7:07am Sunset: 7:51pm Moonrise: 7:47am Moonset: 10:07pm 8 Sunrise: 7:06am Sunset: 7:51pm Moonrise: 8:30am Moonset: 11:21pm 9 Sunrise: 7:04am Sunset: 7:52pm Moonrise: 9:21am Moonset: none 10 Sunrise: 7:03am Sunset: 7:53pm Moonrise: 10:21am Moonset: 12:32am 11 Sunrise: 7:02am Sunset: 7:54pm Moonrise: 11:26am Moonset: 1:36am 12 Sunrise: 7:01am Sunset: 7:54pm Moonrise: 12:35pm Moonset: 2:30am First Qtr: 12:32pm 13 Sunrise: 7:00am Sunset: 7:55pm Moonrise: 1:42pm Moonset: 3:14am 14 Sunrise: 6:58am Sunset: 7:56pm Moonrise: 2:47pm Moonset: 3:51am 15 Sunrise: 6:57am Sunset: 7:56pm Moonrise: 3:49pm Moonset: 4:23am 16 Sunrise: 6:56am Sunset: 7:57pm Moonrise: 4:48pm Moonset: 4:51am Courtesy of www.sunrisesunset.com Steve Edwards @@SWAT, Midland County SWAT team came armed with M-16 assault rifles, body armor, M113 APC and flatbed carrier, SWAT van very similar in appearance to TV show except air conditioner on top. People wondered what it was doing 5 counties away. Midland texas is a 152 mile, 3 1/2 hour drive to Eldorado according to Google maps. On report is that they gathered at the Pave Paws base off 277 before the noon raid on friday. If it took 30 min to unload at the AFS, then it would have taken another 30 to drive into Eldorado and back up the road to the ranch, which would explain a nighttime drive. Sherrif Doran did have access to the base, giving tours to the press: http://www.childbrides.org/raid_TST_YFZ_what_next_for_polygs.html VerbatimCounty Sheriff David Doran, making a security check at the old Pave PAWS strategic radar facility near Eldorado, Tex., closed since 1995, Houston Chronicle, ... www.airforce-magazine.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2006/June%202006/0606verb.aspx Pave PAWS Goes to the Snakes “I always look for snakes. This is a rattlesnake haven. I’ve seen them hanging out the door.”—County Sheriff David Doran, making a security check at the old Pave PAWS strategic radar facility near Eldorado, Tex., closed since 1995, Houston Chronicle, March 26. http://washingtontimes.com/news/2006/apr/30/20060430-091246-7219r/ Shuttered military radar facility just a blip of curiosity Originally published 09:12 p.m., April 30, 2006, updated 12:00 a.m., May 1, 2006 ELDORADO, Texas -- Sheriff David Doran slides a key in a lock, pulls a door open, looks down and cautiously glances left and right. And then up. "I always look for snakes," the Schleicher County sheriff said. "This is a rattlesnake haven. I've seen them hanging out the door." Then he steps inside a building next to an odd pyramid-shaped edifice, carefully walks around some rodent droppings at the door threshold and steps back a generation into the Cold War and into what the Air Force called PAVE PAWS. Correct one http://www.co.midland.tx.us/sheriff/ Midland County Sheriffs Office P.O. Box 11287 Midland, TX 79702 (432) 688-4600 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/5707407.html COMMENTARY A watchful eye helped avoid 'fiasco' By LISA FALKENBERG Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle April 16, 2008, 11:54PM they brought the armored personnel carrier. And the Midland County SWAT team. And the automatic weapons, for good measure. But authorities didn't have to use any of them to gain entrance into the Yearning for Zion Ranch during a raid on the polygamist compound in West Texas earlier this month. Despite pictures of the readied weapons, released this week by the sect's attorney to The Associated Press, authorities' actual method of entry was far less dramatic. Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran simply pulled up in his four-door Chevy pickup, as he has done on numerous occasions over the past few years, and asked to come inside. Then, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said, the sheriff, along with two Texas Rangers, served a search warrant prompted by a teen girl's report of abuse by her 50-year-old husband. There was little resistance and the raid went off without incident. http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695270749,00.html RavenPrecept | 12:31 p.m. May 24, 2008 Look at the enlarged photo of that vehicle. You can see the kill marks. 2 people and a car. http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270749,00.html While some may question the use of an armored personnel carrier — believing it's overkill — Mange said the carrier was not there to make entry on the ranch. "It was there to make sure everything went well and we could get someone out quickly if we needed to," she said. http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ Re: your link to the picture of the armored personnel carrier at the compound — Click on this Eldorado Success newspaper link for a picture of the armored personnel carrier at the compound with the FLDS boys inside. The picture shows 4 interested FLDS boys inside the carrier with a SWAT officer, and this is the caption: “Several boys from the YFZ ranch are given a tour of the Midland County armored personnel carrier by S.W.A.T. officer (upper left) as the 6-day-long search continued on the polygamous compound.” Comment by DRJ — 4/17/2008 @ 10:39 pm (must have been sunday since all children were removed by that evening) http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/swat-teamlight-infantry-platoonits-such-a-fine-line/ April 16, 2008...6:35 am swat team…light infantry platoon…it’s such a fine line. Jump to Comments Tamara raises an eyebrow at the level of gear brought to the party by state and local law enforcement when they raided the Polygamist Mormon compound in Texas. Choice quote: WTF is Midland County doing with an armored personnel carrier? And more importantly, what is it doing in Schleicher County a couple of hundred miles from home? Did Midland County SWAT get likkered up one night, go joyriding in the APC, and get lost? This marks the first instance of me reading the term “Mechanized Law Enforcement.” Heh. I might just start using that one, but it wouldn’t be a shock at all to me if we took a glimpse into the future of community policing to find that in thirty years, the Midland County Sheriff’s Office and SWAT team have merged into A Company, 2nd Battalion, 14th Mechanized Law Enforcement Brigade. http://www.county.org/resources/library/county_mag/county/094/knock.html KNOCK! KNOCK! Smith County Sheriff's Office goes armored Smith County Sheriff J.B. Smith gets tickled when he talks about his new armored personnel carriers. Not that he's proud of getting $2 million worth of military track vehicles free. Not even so much that outlaws will almost certainly come out with their hands up, as they did in Fort Davis in May. Mostly, he gets tickled because these cop cars on steroids are good politics. "If you do a good job, you automatically are doing good politics. I have a great staff. They take care of business, and I take care of politics. I don't know if that'd work in Alpine or Houston, but I know how it works in Tyler, Texas," the six-term sheriff said. The armored personnel carriers, or APCs, brought favorable national attention to Smith County when the Texas Department of Public Safety borrowed them and a pair of deputies to operate them in order to convince Republic of Texas leader Richard McLaren to end his standoff. Part of the national attention, however, irritated Smith and his officers assigned to the vehicles. Detective Don Cox, APC driver and National Guardsman, said a CBS reporter insisted on calling it a tank and asked why a sheriff's office needed so much firepower. "They're not tanks. Those are twice as big with a very large cannon. There's no gun on here," Cox said. There were guns on them, though, before the Texas Army National Guard turned a pair of the M-25A1 Armored Personnel Carriers over to Smith County. Each had only six hours of service on them. The 81mm mortar cannon and it's turret base have been removed to squeeze in up to 14 sweaty SWAT team members and their gear. "It's not a luxury ride," said one SWAT officer Named Bubba 1 and Bubba 2, each weighs 13 tons, moves on tank-like tracks and has a 600-horsepower diesel engine that can push it along at 40 miles per hour and up 60-degree grades. It'll also float, as long as the driver seal its off before putting it in the water, where it will paddle along at four miles per hour. The Smith County SWAT team has already begun training with the APCs, which will knock down medium-sized trees and make unique entries into buildings. The vehicles can provide a means of safe approach to a hostile scene (as in Fort Davis), make cover for officers, or move between harm's way and a wounded man to allow medical help to work in relative safety. The APC's armor will stop a .50 caliber round, (actually 7.62 rifle rounds) making more common, less powerful small arms ineffective against it. "I have full hopes that we never have to use them," Smith said. Perhaps they won't see much police work, but already they've become invaluable public relations collateral. Then there's the good politics of it all. Smith said it wasn't obvious at first. "I was called about eight months ago by this deputy I have who works full time traveling to military bases looking for surplus. He said, 'I have found two armored personnel carriers up here in Texarkana. They're free.' And I said, 'We don't need any armored personnel carriers, thank you very much.'" "So one of my SWAT team officers said, 'Wait a minute, sheriff. There have been needs in the past for an armored personnel carrier in situations where we could have rescued a hostage, or in times where we wanted to go into areas where we couldn't drive vehicles.'" Smith said. "Now we're looking at using them in drug eradication, finding drug fields in the deep woods. This is East Texas." Smith's deputies knew the vehicles would be used eventually. The SWAT team was obviously making plans, training with them, painting over the Army camouflage with department logos and "Knock! Knock!" on the front. No one had any idea they'd be called to Fort Davis. "They called us the first day, and we were there in fifteen hours. That's when they put their state trooper SWAT team in the back. They started using the vehicles within thirty minutes of their arrival," Smith said. DPS and Midland County SWAT teams were chauffeured by Smith County deputies daily as teams cleared the neighborhood and made pickups and deliveries of 'diplomatic pouches' to McLaren's base. http://www.childbrides.org/raid_KWES_Midland_sends_aid_to_Eldorado.html Midland County Sends Aid to Eldorado By Camaron Abundes NewsWest 9 - KWES-TV - Midland, Texas M113 on carrier semi truck flatbed Warren Jeffs MIDLAND- An eight member SWAT Team from the Midland County Sheriff's office was in Eldorado, Friday, helping dozens of law enforcement agents from around Texas in a raid at the Fundamentalists Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound. Midland County Sheriff Gary Painter says they also sent an armored personnel carrier to help gain access on the compound. "They had the temple surrounded with their vehicles refusing to allow admittance. We rolled the armored personnel carrier up and they complied," said Sheriff Painter. Sheriff Painter says his team worked with about 60 other law enforcement agents to search the buildings on the compound. "We have information, young people, females, that are in the compound some of them might be held against their will others that may have been used as sex tools or whatever you want to call it. Some of them have children, these young ladies are sixteen or under," Painter said. KWES.com Originally broadcast April 4, 2008 @@Swinton, Rozita Swinton is now known to be the fraud caller "Rosita Swinton, the woman now known to have made the hoax call to a San Angelo shelter for battered women that ultimately led to the April 3, 2008, raid on the polygamous sect's Yearning for Zion Ranch." "The calls are now believed to be a hoax staged by a Colorado woman with a history of making false abuse claims. " FLDS sect's lawyers challenge ranch search warrant Polygamy » Defense plans to call at least 12 witnesses if the judge grants a hearing. By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 05/15/2009 08:51:13 PM MDT http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12378967?source=rss src: Judge imposes time limit as FLDS bid to get evidence hearing moves into fourth day By Michael Kelly Originally published 12:16 p.m., May 16, 2009 Updated 12:56 p.m., May 16, 2009 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/may/16/judge-imposes-time-limit-as-flds-bid-to-get-into/ %%Arrest Warrant http://www.thedenverchannel.com/download/2008/0424/15973635.pdf http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/04/24/flds.pdf Arrest Warrant http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/archives/2008_05_01_archive.htm The call that started it all, part three Continuing from the Rozita Swinton arrest warrant: ''On April 10, 2008, Schleicher County (Texas) Deputy Conner was contacted by someone named (deleted) at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women and advised that a shelter worker was on the telephone with Sarah Barlow. ''Deputy Conner had Clagget establish a three-way call . . . Deputy Conner advised that Sarah Barlow sounded as if she was crying. Sarah Barlow had repeatedly said she felt she would be punished for the trouble she caused. ''Sarah Barlow insisted that if she came forward her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow also stated that the ''sisterwives'' were instructing her to tell authorities that she was their daughter and that Sarah Barlow’s baby belonged to the ‘’sisterwives.’’ Sarah Barlow stated that the baby's name was Claire and that she was about eight months old. Sarah Barlow also stated that she had a twin sister in Colorado City, Utah, and requested if Deputy Conner could assist with getting her twin sister and mother out of Colorado City, Utah. Deputy Conner agreed. ''Sarah Barlow would say during the conversation that the women at the shelter where she was at would bring the children teddy bears and the boys would get small cars. Sarah Barlow also advised that she didn't want to talk to one of the social workers because she was wearing a short sleeved shirt. Sarah Barlow also stated that the ''sisterwives'' had told her the workers were trying to poison the people from the YFZ Ranch with food in shiny wrappers. ''Sarah Barlow was also angry with a woman named (deleted) that Sarah Barlow had contacted on March 29, 2008, and faults (deleted) for the YFZ Ranch being raided by law enforcement. Ranger Kemp was aware that (name deleted) was one of the first women that had been called by Sarah Barlow on March 29, 2008, at the NewBridge Family Shelter in San Angelo, Texas. Ranger Kemp was not aware of (deleted) name being released to any media outlets. Sarah Barlow also informed Deputy Conner that the location she was at had multiple buildings, but she would not describe the buildings. ''Sarah Barlow would terminate the calls, stating that the ''sisterwives'' were coming or that she had to pray on the topic of telling Deputy Conner her location and would call back later. Deputy Conner advised that he would wear a shirt of any color Sarah Barlow requested in order for Sarah Barlow to identify him for assistance to leave the shelter area. ''Sarah Barlow advised Deputy Conner not to wear red. Sarah Barlow also stated she wanted to leave the shelter at nighttime. Each time that Deputy Conner would request a description of Sarah Barlow’s location she would not answer and finally hung up. To be continued . . . 9:57 AM | 3 comments The calls that started it all continued . . . I continue here from the last post, providing excerpts from the Rozita Swinton arrest warrant . . . Th worker ''advised that she worked at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women where she had been in telephone contact with Sarah Barlow. Sarah Barlow advised Woodward that her husband, Dale Barlow, was living at 13031 8th Avenue West in Everett, Washington. An Internet search revealed that the location was for the Cobble Hill Apartments in Everett, Washington. ''Sarah Barlow advised (the worker) that she married Dale Barlow when she was fourteen (14) years old and was Dale Barlow's third wife. Sarah Barlow advised she had been moved to the YFZ Ranch approximately three weeks ago and was assigned to a new husband named ''Merrill.'' Sarah Barlow also advised she had just been moved from the YFZ Ranch in the last few days and was not sure where she was. ''Sarah Barlow was fearful of revealing her true identity to anyone for fear that the ''sisterwives'' had told her that her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow had also told Woodward that the ''sisterwives'' had told her to claim she was their daughter and not a wife of ''Merrill's.'' The worker stated that Sarah Barlow had spoken in Biblical terms. ''Having been involved in the recent investigation into the allegations at the YFZ Ranch in Texas, Ranger Kemp was aware that the terms ''sisterwives'' and being ''assigned'' to a new husband were common terminology used by the women from the YFZ Ranch in referring to fellow wives of the men and also that women were reassigned to different husbands for various reasons in the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints religion. The worker was reluctant to provide the information for fear of repercussions. page 4 of 8 I responded to Urban Peak and played a portion of the recorded conversation I had made of "Dana Anderson". Ms. Ming identified the female on the audiotape as the same girl she had been speaking to known as "April". On February 26, 2008 at 1440 hours, Officers J. Whittmore R Mooney andSegeant Martin were dispatched to 8220 Candon Drive to investigate two 911 calls from a small female child asking for or identifying herself as "Jennifer" (CSPD case 08-06693) According to the calls, an unknown child, approximately four years of age, was claiming to be locked in her basement since Friday because she had gotten into trouble. The calls were coming in from a prepaid Tracphone (719-351-0913) Through a GPS and reverse 911 tracking, the 911 calls were identified as having come from the areas of the 8100 or 8200 blocks of Steadman Drive or Candon Drive. Officers conducted door-to-door neighborhood contacts with residents and searches of homes along these streets. During the neighborhood contacts the officers were contacted by Jennifer Pierce. Ms. Pierce asked if the officers were looking for a female claiming to be locked in a basement. Ms. Pierce advised she knew who officers were looking for. Officer Whittmore advised that Ms. Pierce briefed him on her history with Dana Anderson. Ms. Pierce provided the current contact telephone number she had for Dana since October 2007 with only a brief gap during which Dana had told Ms. Pierce she was in Texas with a relative named Maria. On March 4, 2008, I met with Ms. Pierce at the Police Operations Center located at 705 S. Nevada Avenue once again. During the follow-up interview conducted with her she advised she was she advised she was no longer with TESSA as of Feb 28, 2008. Ms. Pierce advised, however she continued to receive telephone calls from "Dana Anderson" on her personal cellular telephone from "Dana's" new telephone number. Dana continued to call her after she had reported the information back in October 2007. .. continue to talk about being locked in the basement and drugged for days on end. On Feb 29, 2008, she had received a phone call from Dana who told her she was currently in the TESSA safe house. She advised Dana told her that it was actually her other personality that went to the safe house. She advised "Dana Anderson" stated "Rozita and Dana" are in the same body but just different personalities. She stated "Dana" described "Rozita" as a dark skin toned black female, 33 years old, who has worked for an insurance agency for a long time. Ms. Pierce stated "Dana" asked her to call her back on "Rozita's" telephone (... 5744). She advised "Dana" told her the "Dana" personality is there to protect Rozita for being hurt. Ms. Pierce stated she contacted a confidential source (employee of TESSA) who confirmed there was a Rozita housed at the safe house. She advised the source would not give Rozita's last name, but confirmed she was a 33 year old black female. Rozita Swinton DOB 10/23/74 a black female 5'8"180 pounds, having black hari and brown eyes, is a known repeat victim who repeatedly reports abuse with the Colorado Springs Police Department. She is identified on Colorado Drivers Licence XXXX A utility check through the ... page 5 of 8 Colorado Springs Utilities on April 15, 2008 showed a current address for Ms Swinton of 4826 Templeton Park Circle, Apartment 125, with a home telephone of xx5744. This same telephone number has been provided by Ms. Swinton in the past in numerous CSPD police reports dating back to 2005. Ms. Swinton is currently employed with State Farm Insurance ... She made a report of sexual abuse on March 9, 2008 CSPD report 08-07773) but refused to give any information to the responding officer. On April 13, 2008, I was contacted by Sergeant Hugh Velasquez regarding information he had obtained from Sergeant Sean Mandel. Mandel told Velasquez he had been contacted by the Texas Rangers in regard to their investigation into the Yearning for Zion YFZ Ranch. Sergeant Mandel related Texas Ranger Brooks Long had advised he had two cellular telephone number listings from the Colorado Springs area (719-351-0913 and 719-243-2866) Sergeant Mandel was aware that the phone number, 719-361-0919 that was possibly related to the reporting party for the YFZ Ranch incident .. was also idenfited in a prior case report. On April 14, 2008, I spoke with Texas Ranger Long and confirmed telephone number ..0913 was in fact a local Colorado Springs telephone number associated with Rozita Swinton. I informed Ranger Long that Rozita Swinton was known to make false reports of sexual abuse to the police and other agencies. The Texas Rangers advised they would be responind to Colorado Springs to conduct further investigation. Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp, a certified peace officer in the state of Texas, advised he had been provided information by Ranger Long that a series of telephone calls were made to the Newbridge Family Shelter beginning March 29, 2008 by a female who identified herself as Sarah Barlow with a date of birth of January 13, 1992. During the calls from March 29, 2008 and March 30, 2008, Sarah Barlow stated she had a a baby that was approximately eight months old and was also currently pregnant with another child. Sarah Barlow identified her "husband" the father of the baby, as Dale Barlow. Dale Barlow was described as a white male that was forty-nine years of age. Sarah Barlow described Dale Barlow as both physically and sexually abusive towards her. Sarah Barlow stated that she and Dale Barlow were currently residing at the YFZ Ranch .. would occasionally cry during conversation with the Family Shelter Crisis Hotline call takers. Sarah desired to leave the YFZ Ranch compound, but stated to call takers (Alissa Thomas and Jessica Carroll) that if she were caught, she would be locked in her room and not allowed to eat. Texas Ranger Kemp was provided a copy of a report by Texas Roger Long that had been written by Schleicher County Deputy Sheriff John Conner, a peace officer. The report indicated that a female caller identified as Sandraw Woodard from Monroe, Washington, had contacted the Sheriff's office and advised she hasd been in telephone contact with a female claiming to be Sarah Barlow age sixteen. Woodard advised that she worked at the page 6 of 8 .. in Everett Washington... Sarah Barlow advised Woodard that she married Dale Barlow when she was fourteen (14) years old and was Dale Barlow's third wife. Sarah advised she had been moved to the YFZ Ranch approximate 3 weeks ago and was assigned to a new husband named "Merrill". Sarah Barlow also advised she had just been moved from the YFZ Ranch in the last few days and was not sure where she was. Sarah Barlow was fearful of revealing her true identity to anyone for fear that the "sisterwives" had told her that her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow had also told Woodard that the "sisterwives" had told her to claim she was their daughter and not a wife of "Merrill's". Woodard stated that Sarah Barlow hd spoken in Biblical terms. Having been involved in into the allegations at the YFZ Ranch in Texas, Ranger Kemp was aware that the terms "sisterwives" and being "assigned" to a new husband were common terminology used by the women from the YFZ Ranch in referring to fellow wives of the men and also that women were reassigned to different husbands for various reasons in the Fundamental Latter-Day-Saints (FLDS) religion. Wooward was reluctant to provide the information for fear of repercussions. On April 10, 2008 Schleicher County (Texas) Duputy Conner was contacted by someone named "Karen" at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women and advised that a shelter worker, Kelly Clagget, was on the telephone with Sarah Barlow. Deputy Conner had Clagget establish a three-way call.. Conner advised that Sarah sounded as if she was crying. Sarah had repeatedly said she felt she would be punished for the trouble she caused. Sarah insisted that if she came forward, her baby would be taken away. Sarah also stated that the "sisterwives" were instructing her to tell authoritites that she was their daughter and that Sara's baby belonged to the "sisterwives". Sarah stated that hte baby's name was Claire and that she was eight months old. Sarah also stated that she had a twin sister in Colorado City, Utah and requested if Deputy Conner could assist with getting her twin sister and mother out of Colorado City, Utah, Deputy Conner agreed. Sarah Barlow would say during the conversation that the women at the shelter where she was at would bring the children teddy bears and the boys would get small cars. Sarah Barlow also advised that she didn't want to talk to one of the social workers because she was wearing a short sleeved shirt. page 8 of 8 a search of the telephone records for 719-243-2866 revealed that the Snohomish Battered Women's Shelter in Everett WA was called as well as the Hope Organization in Washington, Utha (also related to Hope for Child Brides); F.M. Jessop in Arizona; the Domestic Violence (Rape Crisis ) line in Colorado Springs, Colorado; and the Abused Counseling and Treatment Center in Ft. Myers Fla. A search of Colordo state court government records, LexisNexis showed Swinton is currently sentenced on a 12 month deferred Sentence for False Reporting (M-3) out of Douglas, County Case 05M01552. Ms. Swinton pled guilty on June 27, 2007. ..numbers show all telephone numbers as Tracphones with no identifying records attached. I would request an increased bond due to Ms. Swinton being a flight and a safety risk to the public. ... I would respectfully request that probable cause be found that SWINTON, Rozita Estraletta AKA: Dana Anderson: DOB: 10/23/74 did within the City of Colorado Springs, County of El Paso and State of Colorado, commit in violation of the Colorado Revised Statutes 1973 as amended, the offense of 18-8-111(2)(B), FALSE REPORTING TO AUTHORITIES CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR (M-3) Applicant: TERRY E. THRUMSTON 984D Colorado Springs Police Department Position: Detective Sworn and Subscribed before me this 16th day of April 2008 I'm going over the Swinton Arrest warrant. Scary stuff. How in the blazes can Crimmins with a straight face claim that the investigation is ongoing with "Sarah" calling so many different people, giving the same name, DOB, baby name, and they know the phone number??? What I'm wondering (and I've seen similar posts) is where the heck did she get the personal phone number of Flora? "a search of the telephone records for 719-243-2866 revealed that the Snohomish Battered Women's Shelter in Everett WA was called as well as the Hope Organization in Washington, Utha (also related to Hope for Child Brides); F.M. Jessop in Arizona; the Domestic Violence (Rape Crisis ) line in Colorado Springs, Colorado; and the Abused Counseling and Treatment Center in Ft. Myers Fla. I got this version from the FLDS document questioning why LE didn't figure out the guy they were looking for wasn't in the state and the girl that was supposed to be there was using a phone with a Colorado phone number. They didn't evidently know that Flora called the Rangers after the Sunday morning phone call. Flora claims she didn't know about Sara's calls to Texas, though she could have put the stories together, and was suspicious of the calls. Flora took the call 8:30 Sunday morning which means she probably was at home, not on duty on a hotline, this indicates it was on her private cellphone which probably means only people she had given the number to would have it. I can only imagine somebody like Flora would be the only one with access to a database with phone numbers of all the shelters that she called, nobody has followed up on where Rosita got the pile of FLDS materials which would appear to rival the materials on this board, or got a crash course on FLDS culture which appears to be the same school Angie Voss went to, Voss was almost certainly trained by Flora - are there records for Texas paying money to Flora for her services someplace?? http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/04/24/flds.pdf This was published the same day the last mothers were separated with the kids forming a line and singing while they were being dragged away screaming %%Blog Rozita" commented on Blues' blog http://estraletta.blogspot.com/ nothing about the FLDS there, it only has one post, about Michigan Women's Basketball. Blogroll includes 2 LDS sites. It has been denied by the LDS church in SLC that Rozita is a member of the church, or that she ever served a mission for the LDS church. Copyright takedowns - by Modern Pharisee http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/1323655/1/#new The Rozita Santa picture is down, and because of effective legal council on copyright (I wonder who) Blogger has no choice but to immediately remove the picture. Blogger has been notified, according to the terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), that certain content in your blog infringes upon the copyrights of others. %%Calls This is from April 25, 2008 - Flora evidently gave copies of audio recordings to the media. http://cbs4denver.com/local/swinton.call.phone.2.708358.html CBS4 Obtains Recording Of Polygamist Call COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS4) ? Click to enlarge The Colorado Springs police said Rozita Swinton, 33, was arrested for false reporting in connection with a February incident in Colorado. Investigators said Swinton had called them in February claiming to be an abused child child being held in a basement. CBS4 obtained a copy of a phone call from a Colorado Springs woman to a former polygamist sect member that may have contributed to a raid of the Texas compound earlier this month. http://fldsview.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-texas-traced-calls-to-rozita.html %%Charged http://www.texasmonthly.com/2009-10-01/feature2.php A Texas Ranger finally tracked her down in Colorado, only to find that she was not an FLDS member at all. Her real name was Rozita Swinton. She was a 33-year-old woman known for making false reports to police and women’s shelters around the country. Investigators searched her apartment and found research notes about the FLDS. Dale Barlow, who was a real person and a member of the sect, was not married to her. Swinton was charged with false reporting to authorities, a class three misdemeanor. %%Flora http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24341780/page/3/ Inside private world of polygamist ranch Rumors are swirling about an FLDS ranch brainwashing women and child brides suffering physical abuse. What really went on? TRANSCRIPT By Keith Morrison Correspondent NBC News updated 4:27 p.m. PT, Sun., April. 27, 2008 This story originally aired Dateline NBC on April 27, 2008. A week ago, the Texas rangers issued a press release saying they are actively pursuing a woman named Rozita Swinton as a "person of interest" in the case. Swinton has a history of making phony calls and even using the name Sarah. Flora Jessop: When she very first called me, she identified herself as Sarah, a 16-year-old. In late March, at the very same time the girl claiming to be "wife number 7" called a Texas shelter for help, Flora Jessop, the former FLDS member, was also getting calls from a girl who said she was at the church's Arizona location, 16, pregnant, and in danger. Flora Jessop: Everything she said to me rang absolutely true. She is very believable. She sounds like an injured child when she makes these calls. (Flora Jessop recording) "Sarah": Thank you for trying to comfort me. But something didn't sound right. Flora started recording the calls. She spent some 40 hours on the phone with the girl before she was finally able to coax a confession out of her. Flora Jessop: Tell me what your real name is. Are you from the FLDS? "Sarah": I don't want to get in trouble. She wasn't a teenager at all. She was Rozita Swinton, who is not 16 years old. She is 33. Nor does she belong to FLDS. Flora Jessop: I’m still having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that it was a 33-year-old woman that was making these calls to me. Is there a connection? Is it possible 33-year-old Rozita Swinton is also the person who made the calls to the shelter? Did she fool the Texas child protection authorities into thinking she was an abused 16-year-old mother? Jessop says it doesn't matter. Even if the call that initiated the raid on the Yearning for Zion ranch was a fraud, she says, the state of Texas made the right move. Flora Jessop: They still did the right thing, because what they found once they entered that compound was absolutely valid. The men inside the FLDS are predators. FLORA CLAIMS SHE DIDN'T KNOW SARAH CALLED ABOUT YFZ RANCH, KNEW SAME GIRL WAS SARAH, LAURA, AND FRIEND ONLY CONFRONTED AFTER ARREST http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3776483.ece April 19, 2008 'Hoax' cry for help, hundreds of children in custody . . . chaos rules at sect trial Flora Jessop, a former church member who runs a centre for teenage girls trying to escape the polygamist sect, told the Denver Post yesterday that she received a call from Ms Swinton claiming to be an abuse victim named Sarah on March 30. Texas authorities say that a girl with the same name also called a Texas hotline on March 29 claiming that she was suffering abuse in the polygamist compound. The hotline call was not made public until after the raid on the YFZ ranch. “It does kind of indicate [Ms Swinton] made those calls,” Ms Jessop told the Denver Post. “There was no press on it at the time.” Ms Jessop said that she recorded between 30 to 40 hours of daily phone conversations with Ms Swinton, who alternately claimed to be Sarah, Sarah’s twin sister Laura and Laura’s friend. She would call after 8.30pm at night and speak softly, explaining that others in the compound were sleeping. “She was very convincing,” Ms Jessop said. “She very much thought this out.” Ms Jessop said that she confronted Ms Swinton when she called her two hours after her release on Thursday claiming to be Laura’s friend. Ms Swinton admitted that her name was Rose, she said %%Fraud LONG OMITTED FACTS FROM AFFADAVIT THAT WOULD HAVE UNDERMINED CASE The men argue Texas Ranger Brooks Long omitted facts that cast doubt on abuse allegations when he sought a warrant to search the ranch in April 2008. They say Long knew the alleged abuser was not at the ranch and had been told no one matching the description of his purported teen bride lived there. They also say a crisis hotline employee supplied the husband's name to the caller, now believed to have been a Colorado women with a history of making hoax abuse calls. src: Texas judge to hear challenge of searches at polygamous sect's ranch Hearing By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune 05/12/2009 http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12352943 LONG AND DORAN SAY NO REASON TO DISCOUNT CALL OF ABUSE VICTIM priv: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_1687dmvtp3hc src: [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12382380 Texas officers defend raid on polygamous sect's ranch By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] ...the caller who sparked the raid was credible, citing as an example her frequent use of the word "prophet, Once the caller identified her husband as Dale Evans Barlow -- selected from a list of men associated with the FLDS Church, read to her by hotline worker -- Long decided against contacting the man's Arizona probation officer. Long said he had two reasons: in his experience, probation officers call offenders and alert them to such calls, and he had heard there were people sympathetic to the FLDS in the area's criminal justice system. Judge imposes time limit as FLDS bid to get evidence hearing moves into fourth day By Michael Kelly May May 16, 2009 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/may/16/judge-imposes-time-limit-as-flds-bid-to-get-into/ http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12386161 Texas ranger testifies on his investigation into phone calls made by woman posing as FLDS girl Justice By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Updated:05/16/2009 04:54:02 PM MDT On Friday (5/15/09), Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran testified he received the caller's telephone number on April 8 of last year but did not share that information with Texas Rangers overseeing the investigation until Kemp asked him about it. Swinton's phone records show she received a call from Doran's cell phone on that day. Doran said he heard only silence in the 90-second call. Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp said a subsequent search of Rozita Swinton's apartment in Colorado Springs turned up evidence that she had begun researching the FLDS around March 26, 2008 -- three days before abuse calls were first made to the New Bridge Family Center in San Angelo from a person who claimed to be an abused 16-year-old plural wife living at the ranch. Kemp said he was asked to investigate the calls on April 14, 11 days after authorities received a search warrant that gave them access to the sect's ranch quotes from the Trib article above (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12386161) Quote: On Friday, Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran testified he received the caller's telephone number on April 8 of last year but did not share that information with Texas Rangers overseeing the investigation until Kemp asked him about it. Swinton's phone records show she received a call from Doran's cell phone on that day. Doran said he heard only silence in the 90-second call. Kemp said he began reviewing Swinton's phone records in May 2008. He said Swinton's phone records showed numerous calls to and from the New Bridge Family Center beginning on March 29 and, beginning on March 30, to anti-polygamy activist Flora Jessop. Jessop arranged three-way calls with the family center and Swinton, who told Jessop she was the sister of "Sarah Jessop Barlow," who is now believed to be fictitious. HUGH MCBRIDE IS CONVINCED FBI ALREADY KNEW ABOUT SWINTON BEFORE THE RAID http://hughmcbryde.blogspot.com/2009/02/texas-knew-all-along-fbi-continues-to.html Wednesday, February 11, 2009 Texas KNEW all along. The FBI continues to Stonewall on Swinton investigation. ...From now on out, I will cite this conversation with the Dallas office of the FBI as proof that Texas or the Texas FBI knew about Rozita Swinton, prior to executing their search warrants. TXBLUESMAN: TxBluesMan said... Hugh, I believe what you have related as to the sequence of events, the dodging of the calls, refusing to talk to you, etc..... What I have an issue with is you taking those limited facts and expanding that to state that this was "proof that Texas or the Texas FBI knew about Rozita Swinton, prior to executing their search warrants." May 28, 2008 Cycle of Abuse: The FLDS Raid By Eileen McDevitt and Larrey Anderson http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/post_14.html A 33-year-old Colorado resident, Rozita Swinton owns the cell phone that was used by "Sarah" to make the call to the Texas hotline. Swinton has made false reports to authorities in the past. She has made calls claiming to be an abused child held in a basement. She once pretended to be suicidal mother threatening to abandon her newborn child. Texas authorities had the Colorado cell phone number of the caller who identified herself as "Sarah." They elected, initially, not to track down the owner of the cell phone and confirm "Sarah's" story. It appears from a media report, this was the opportunity authorities had been hoping for. They seized it without pause. ... An unverified phone call was all it took for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services (DFPS) to raid the ranch. %%History timeline: (archived in Selective Justice) Oct 1974 Rozita Swinton Born in Nashville, TN July 1976 Courtney Swinton born in Nashville, TN 1982 Rozita at age 8, Clarence Swinton and Rozita’s mom split up. (They were not married.) 1982 Courtney goes to live with dad, Rozita wants to live with dad too. runs away, lives at 3 juvenile institutions. 1988, Rozita at 14, placed into foster care. 1992 Rozita graduates from Pearl-Cohn Magnet High School in Nashville. 1993 Rozita goes to live with a Tennessee foster parent. After turning 19, Swinton lived with a Tennessee woman who was caring for foster children. (Mary Catharine Nelson)"One of the counselors working with [Rozita] knew me and called to ask if I would take her in," the woman wrote in her book, After Disclosure, under the pen name Kate Rosemary. Contacted by The Salt Lake Tribune, Rosemary/Mary Catharine Nelson declined to be interviewed, citing the safety of her current foster children. But in her book, she wrote Rozita, who also rejected interview requests, was "tragically abused" and had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. Sometime between 1994 and 1996 Rozita moves to Colorado Springs, after briefly working as a nanny in Utah. 1994, Rozita has a separate address in Nashville. Directory listings show 1994-2002 Rozita with Nashville address, 1995-2002 with Patricia Barton and Courtney Swinton. 2000- Rozita is in Minnesota. 2001-2008 works for insurance company (State Farm) 2004 - Colorado Insurance license expired 2008 attends Colorado community college part time %%Medical records NO ONE CHECKED MEDICAL CENTER FOR CLAIM ABOUT BROKEN RIBS http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12386161 Texas ranger testifies on his investigation into phone calls made by woman posing as FLDS girl Justice By Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Updated:05/16/2009 on Saturday, an investigator for defense attorney Gerald Goldstein testified that he checked with the Schleicher County Medical Center and learned that no one from law enforcement had ever sought medical records related to the caller's claim of receiving treatment there for broken ribs. That contradicts testimony by Texas Ranger Brooks Long, who said earlier this week that the Tom Green County prosecutor had inquired about the records. %%Treatment SWINTON TO ENTER MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6076865.html Woman linked to calls in FLDS raid to enter treatment Associated Press Oct. 24, 2008, 4:59PM CASTLE ROCK, Colo. — A woman linked to phone calls that may have triggered a raid on a Texas polygamist group is entering an inpatient treatment program after pleading "not guilty, mental condition impaired" in an unrelated case. A court filing says Rozita Swinton will enter the program next month, but no details have been released on the location or nature of the treatment. %%Calls FLDS BELIEVES TEXAS KNEW ABOUT SWINTON AND FALSE CLAIMS BEFORE ENTERING RANCH http://hughmcbryde.blogspot.com/2009/01/warren-moves-to-receive-evidentiary.html Warren moves to receive an evidentiary hearing to suppress YFZ evidence. A new motion has been filed in the Warren Jeffs case in Arizona. Among other things, it seems Texas knew, prior to going into the YFZ ranch, the name of Rozita Swinton, and that she had made false charges of sexual abuse Now from reading the Mohave Daily News, it would seem that Piccarreta is claiming Texas did know about Rozita Swinton Texas had all the numbers necessary to immediately identify Rozita Swinton and may in fact have done so. Strange goings on that mask the time of initial contact between Sgt. Long and Sgt. Mandel of the CSPD have been found in "Exhibit 3." A conversation took place between Mandel and Long, and may have begun before the day Mandel notifies Sgt. Hugh Velasquez to formalize CSPD and Texas Ranger communication I have sent the following letter to Newsweek Magazine. Arian Campo-Flores Catharine Skipp In August you published a story, along with called "Rozita's Bad Call." There is a major change in the sequence of events leading up to her event that has been concealed. The way CSPD tells the story about who contacted whom is false. I have spoken with Lt. Sean Mandel, who got the information from FBI Agent Steve A. Smith of Colorado Springs who in turn was contacted by an "unknown" FBI agent out of San Angelo. I emphasize that I have spoken directly to Agent Smith of the FBI, and to Lt. (then Sgt) Mandel of CSPD. Mandel was unequivocal. This is the quote from your story; Quote: "On April 13, one of Thrumston's sergeants received a call from the Texas Rangers, who had traced two phone numbers in the FLDS investigation to Colorado Springs. One of them, Thrumston discovered, was associated with Swinton. Within days, police obtained a search warrant for Swinton's home, carted off boxes of evidence and arrested her for false reporting in the episode involving the house-to-house search."It is false. This is from the Affidavit attached to the warrant; Quote: "On April 13, 2008, I (Detective Terry Thrumston) was contacted by Sergeant Hugh Velasquez (1514D) regarding information he had obtained from Sergeant Sean Mandel. Sergeant Mandel told Sergeant Velasquez he had been contacted by the Texas Rangers in regard to their investigation into the Yearning for Zion (YFZ) Ranch. Sergeant Mandel related Texas Ranger Brooks Long had advised he had two cellular telephone number listings from the Colorado Springs area (719-351-0913 and 719-243-2866). Sergeant Mandel was aware that the phone number, 719-351-0913, that was possibly related to the reporting party for the YFZ Ranch incident in Eldorado, Texas, was also identified in a prior CSPD case report."I have followed up with the FBI all the way to Dallas TX and am awaiting a return call as to the identity of the agent who called agent Smith. This means there are probably more than 6 degrees of separation from Thrumston to the original Law Enforcement official or officer of Texas. It also means that April 13th is almost certainly not the date that the initial contact was made due to the time involved for such elaborate relays to reach their destination. It also almost certainly means that whoever asked the question first with Texas Law Enforcement, didn't want the interrogatory traced back to them. If the date of the initial query is before April 13th, that individual also did not want that known either. April 13th 2008 was a Sunday. A great day to assign to "off the record" conversations. Hugh McBryde The first step to obstruct the truth finding process during the Rule 15 interviews of the Texas law enforcement authorities by blocking inquires into their failure to investigate the possibility that the calls from the unknown caller were a hoax, as evidenced by the ease with which it was determined to be a hoax when the authorities actually bothered to try there is no dispute that the affidavit was a lie: There was no such (Here the name "Sarah" is apparently redacted) and she was not being abused by (Here the name "Dale Barlow" is apparently redacted). The only real question is whether the Texas authorities can plausibly explain why they ignored all the earmarks of this hoax. Perhaps it is obvious why the State of Texas (with the full acquiescence of the State of Arizona) refused to allow any questions of the subject. (apparently Dale Barlow). The only real question is whether the Texas authorities can plausibly explain why they ignored all the earmarks of this hoax. the State has blocked inquiry into the illegal actions of the Texas law enforcement officials during the Rule 15 interviews, and is now trying to keep the same facts from being developed before this Court After personally experiencing face to face baseless accusations, the Texas law enforcement authorities did nothing to determine whether allegations from the unknown caller were also baseless allegations from an enemy of the FLDS. Thus the defendant has presented and will present (based on Rule 15 interviews) evidence showing that under the totality of the circumstances, the Texas law enforcement authorities did nothing to establish the veracity, reliability, or credibility of the information provided from the unknown caller Exhibit 3 to Defendant's Motion to Suppress is an unsealed Colorado arrest warrant and affidavit that shows Texas authorities were well aware of the fact that two telephones utilized to make the numerous calls to the "Crisis Hotline" in San Angelo, Texas, were registered telephone numbers outside the State of Texas. Texas authorities were immediately able to determine that these telephone numbers were associated with an individual who made numerous "false reports of sexual abuse to the police and other agencies." [Exhibit 3, attachment A, p.5]. were competent enough to determine that further investigation was necessary at the time, rather than running off to secure a search warrant making arrangements for 152 officers to conduct a raid with a SWAT team, an armored personnel carrier, an unmanned drone, and a helicopter the failure to advise the Magistrate that Sherrif Doran actually spoke to the suspected perpetrator, (Apparently Dale Barlow's name is again redacted) in Arizona by cell phone, confirming his driver's license number and the fact that he was in Arizona, and further learned that the (probably Dale Barlow, redacted) they were looking for was not at the YFZ Ranch. These facts, under the totality of the circumstances, obviously severely undercut the credibility of the information provided from the unknown caller and mandated further investigation. In addition, these "material omissions" were obviously essential to the determination of whether there was probable cause to believe that (Apparently Dale Barlow redacted) was "located" on the YFZ Ranch and posed "an immediate risk of physical or sexual abuse" of (Sarah/Rozita Swinton apparently redacted) as had been previously averred to the Magistrate under oath RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED this 9th day of January, 2009. WRIGHT STANISH & WINCKLER PICCARETTA DAVIS PC By Richard A. Wright By Michael L. Piccarreta Attorney for Warren Jeffs Jefferson Keenan Attorney for Warren Jeffs PHONE CALL WAS A HOAX AND AUTHORITIES KNEW IT CAME FROM OUTSIDE OF TEXAS http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2009/01/20/news/local/local2.txt Polygamist leader's attorney seeks hearing to suppress raid evidence By JIM SECKLER/The Daily News Monday, January 19, 2009 9:34 PM CST KINGMAN - The attorney for Warren Steed Jeffs, the convicted leader of a Colorado City polygamist church, is asking a Mohave County Superior Court judge to hold a hearing to suppress evidence found at a Texas raid. A phone call that triggered the Texas raid was a hoax and officers used the hoax to obtain a warrant to search each house at the compound, Piccarreta said. Texas authorities were also aware that the two phones calls to a crisis hotline in Texas were from phone numbers outside of Texas and that the Colorado woman made numerous false reports of sexual abuse to police agencies, Piccarreta said http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/authorities-ignored-leads-evidence-that.html Friday, May 16, 2008 Authorities ignored leads, evidence that should have shown Eldorado accusations were a hoax There's so much we still don't know about what went on in the days leading up to the massive raid by authorities on the YFZ Ranch, but a habeas corpus petition filed in San Antonio on behalf of monogamous FLDS moms who are all above age provides this new tidbit: Authorities knew before hand not only that Dale Barlow wasn't on the ranch (they'd spoken to him by phone and confirmed he was in Arizona), but they knew the supposed caller wasn't from Texas. According to the petition (if you want to read the whole thing, download the ginormous 75-page pdf file; thanks KBP for getting it online) "It is clear from the recently unsealed Colorado Springs arrest warrant affidavit for Rozita Swinton that Texas authorities were well aware of the fact that the two telephones utilized to make numerous calls to the New Bridge Family Shelter "Crisis Hotline" in San Angelo were registered to telephone numbers outside the State of Texas. This information, together with the determination that the alleged perpetrator, Dale Barlow, was not present on the premises prior to initiation of the search, warranted further investigation. Both of these telephones had Colorado Springs, Colorado area codes (area code 719). Upon calling the Colorado Springs Police Department (Sergeant Mandel) Texas authorities were immediately advised that one of these telephone numbers was associated with an individual who had made numerous 'false reports of sexual abuse to police agencies' in the Colorado Springs area. All-in-all the investigation reveals that Rozita Swinton has been linked to false allegations of sexual abuse to over ten different child protection and law enforcement agencies, dating back to 2005, in cities across the country from Monroe, Washington http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/authorities-ignored-leads-evidence-that.html http://www.adrive.com/public/d9ede5e1bb288ddeecc719552fa216e197d5210b535ca75cada2e033fe524d6e.html @@Quotes %%CPS %%FLDS THEY'VE TREATED US LIKE ANIMALS http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/23/cnr.01.html * "They're dealing with our lives and they've treated us like animals. I can't trust a single person now" PEOPLE JUDGE FROM THEIR OWN HEARTS http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351450,00.html Polygamist Sect Mothers Deny Allegations of Abuse Wednesday, April 16, 2008 said Janet, who said she has five of her 12 children in state custody. * "It seems as though, often times people judge from their own hearts — other people — and this is what we are victims of." %%Milton, Don Say What?: Marriage & Texas Teens - "We Will Violate Their Civil Rights" Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Apr 07, 2008 - 10:33 PM The likelihood that a child will be abused while in [Texas] foster care is greater than if they were left where they are. (Bolton, Laner, and Gai, 1981; Pryor, 1991; Spencer and Knudsen, 1992.)1 For the government to remove five hundred and thirty four American (534) citizens in Texas from their homes and put them into the care of homosexuals, fornicators, adulteresses, and worse -- teens with STDs is; well, you tell me what it is. %%Niklauk "If they, in fact, were held prisoner out there and were denied access to the outside world, then I think that ought to be changed." %%Perry ANY ACTION TAKEN TO PROTECT CHILDREN IS NEVER MISGUIDED http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,700234669,00.html?printView=true FLDS raid costs surpass $14M Texas expected to see more bills from roundup at ranch By John Mortiz McClatchy Newspapers Published: June 14, 2008 a spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry, who has defended the state's action, insisted that the cost to taxpayers is justified. * "Any action taken to protect children is never misguided," said Krista Piferrer, Perry's deputy press secretary. %%Shurtleff "Imagine a community run as a theocracy, where women are considered nothing but property," Shurtleff told the Legislature, "where women have two purposes -- to please their man sexually and have children." @@Raid %%General EXTRA LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS 4 MILES AWAY IN CASE SOMETHING WENT WRONG FLDS lawyers contend they deserve hearing on suppressing evidence By Matt Phinney May 14, 2009 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/may/14/flds-lawyers-contend-they-deserve-hearing-suppress/ extra law enforcement was in place four miles from the ranch and assembled in case something went wrong during the search. %%History http://www.cesnur.org/2009/slc_wiseman.htm State-Sanctioned Raids and Government Violations of Religious Freedom: Revealing Similarities of Constitutional Errors in Both the 1984 Island Pond Raid and the 2008 FLDS Raid by Jean Swankto Wiseman (Attorney, Chattanooga, Tennessee) A paper presented at The 2009 CESNUR Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, June 11-13, 2009 TABLE OF CONTENTS Introduction.................................................................................................................................. 1-2 1) The State Creates An Appearance Of Emergency Caused By A Manufactured Immediate Risk Of Harm To Children Of The Group. 2-3 2) Both Search Warrants Were Obtained On The Basis Of Generalities Without Meeting Legal Standards For Reliability Of Evidence 4-5 3) A “Pervasive System Of Beliefs” Was Used To Try To Create The Risk Of Harm And To Satisfy The Requirement Of Immediate Danger, But Beliefs Are Protected And Do Not Qualify 5-9 4) State Social Workers Tried To Convince The Court That All Members Of The Group Comprised One Household Whose Environment Was Dangerous 9-11 5) The Motive Of The State Action Must Be Discerned Because It Is Incongruous To Believe That The Real Motive Was To Protect Children When State Law, Procedure And Protocol Were Blatantly Not Followed By The Very Practitioners Who Use Them Every Day 11-15 6) The Result Of The State Not Following The Intent Of Its Legislature Was An Effort To Get The Children From Their Religion Rather Than To Protect Them From Immediate Risk Of Harm, As Mandated 15-17 7) In Both Cases The Judiciary Was The Gatekeeper To See That The Rule Of Law Kept The Executive (Social Services And Law Enforcement) In Check 17-20 8) Social Services Actions Against Religious Minorities Are Being Used As A Means Of Social Control, Often Ignoring The Judiciary and The Limits Of The Law (Nationally And Internationally) 20-23 When social workers have no legal grounds for entry and cannot meet the necessary standard, pressure, direct or indirect, can be applied to judges to issue a warrant anyway in the hopes of finding the necessary or desired evidence once inside.[xxvi] Such an approach is illegal. Seizing people or evidence on this basis is called “investigative detention” and it is unlawful in this country under the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, as well as the state constitutions of Vermont and Texas. Judge Mahady noted in regard to Island Pond that “a broader warrant can scarcely be imagined. It is for 20 separate buildings, most of which are residences. The authorization to seize "any and all children under the age of 18 years old" is broader in scope (though admittedly less Draconian in purpose) than that of Herod the Great.” - In Re: C.C. supra fn 1, search warrant decision In Texas, there were two warrants executed. The first was presented several hours after the authorities had surrounded the YFZ Ranch and after three requests to see it. The warrant allowed officials to search for Sarah Jessop and Dale Barlow based upon the alleged complaint, even though it had not been substantiated. Nevertheless the authorities impermissibly took the children on the authority of the first warrant despite the fact that it gave them no authority to do so. A second warrant issued on April 6 seeking records about under-aged children[xxvii], revealing that the state was not looking for specific at-risk children, but was seeking to take children based upon the religious beliefs of their parents, just as it happened in Island Pond.[xxviii] In neither case were the state actors following the requirements of the law and procedures that they practiced nearly every day. 3) A “Pervasive System Of Beliefs” Was Used To Try To Create The Risk Of Harm And To Satisfy The Requirement Of Immediate Danger, But Beliefs Are Protected And Do Not Qualify. “Religious beliefs need not be acceptable, logical, consistent or comprehensible to others in order to merit First Amendment protection.” -quoting Engel v. Vitale 370 U.S. 421, 431 (1962) from J. Mahady In Re: C.C. supra fn 1 “… the State admits that there is not a single piece of evidence in the material submitted that documents a single act of abuse or neglect with regard to any of the 112 children.” Id., J. Mahady, Detention Order Decision “There is no evidence that the mothers have allowed or are going to allow any of their minor female children to be subjected to any sexual or physical abuse. There is simply no evidence specific to the children at all except that they exist, they were taken into custody at the Yearning for Zion Ranch, and they are living with people who share a ‘pervasive belief system’ that condones underage marriage and underage pregnancy.” In re: Sara Steed, et al, supra Both cases were premised upon the argument that a particular religious belief is bad for children[xxix], but it is a right of parents, protected by the Constitution, to make that call.[xxx] . The state does not have the right to ‘protect’ children from exposure to religious beliefs that are objectionable to neighbors or local officials.”[xxxi] But the anti-cult agenda is actually based upon the opposite and illegal premise: that a parent’s subjective belief system can be branded as that of a “destructive cult.” And therefore legitimize the taking of children, en masse, and aim for the destruction of the group in the process. Thus, while the state legal action does not prevail in court, the goal of the anti-cult agenda as outlined in the Kelly plan is nevertheless accomplished. Without evidence of harm and left only with unsubstantiated allegations of defectors or suspicions, the state agents had only one chance to prevail in both cases, that is to claim that the FLDS or Island Pond belief system is dangerous to children. Both states made just that claim. In Island Pond, Assistant Attorney General Philip H. White when asked by the court as the last child came before Judge Mahady on June 22, 1984, “Just what exactly is the harm that is endangering this child?” responded “It is as if the child is living amongst bacteria and the bacteria in this case that jeopardizes this child’s heath is the teachings and doctrines of the church.”[xxxii] At the evidentiary hearing on April 17-18, 2008 in front of Judge Walthers, Texas presented no evidence of actual harm to the FLDS children, but “testimony as to the alleged beliefs of the community as a whole.”[xxxiii] DFPS asked the court to “infer from these alleged beliefs…that mere exposure to this religion amounts to a danger to the physical health and safety the children.”[xxxiv] @@Ranch %%General Authorities still removing women, kids from sect's Texas compound Apr. 7, 2008 By: Bill Hanna - McClatchy Newspapers http://www.ecollegetimes.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinterFriendly&uStory_id=3ccf313e-7586-4859-aa31-d571f470226c The compound now has 30 to 35 residential buildings and another 30 outbuildings. The residential structures are as large as 32,000 square feet and the temple, the only one the FLDS church has built, rises to 125 feet tall. "They've built a town right outside of our town," said Randy Mankin, editor of the Eldorado Success. Most of the ranch residents are believed to have moved here from Colorado City and Hildale. No one is sure how many people live at the compound but Mankin estimates 350-400 people live there. The children have been home-schooled on the property. The ranch supervisor is Merril Jessup, who is believed to be one the leaders in the sect. The compound is believed to be home for Warren Jeffs' most loyal followers. The operation includes a dairy, an orchard, grain silo, vegetable garden and machine shops. Residents make their own bread and cheese but most grocery items are trucked in to the compound. Mankin said that on rare occasions a few of the male ranch residents pick up provisions in Eldorado. The newspaper editor said he has never seen women or children from the ranch in Eldorado. The women, who wear long, old-fashioned dresses, head to San Angelo, where they're less conspicuous. After initial fears about the sect arriving near Eldorado, residents developed an "uneasy relationship" with their neighbors. They worked with them to truck their sewer water to the city's water treatment plant, which helped the sect comply with state environmental regulations. %%Nice http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/discovering_eldorado/print/ Discovering Eldorado In a massive clash between church and state, a band of Texas lawyers learns that individual stories still count October 2008 Issue By Stephanie Francis Ward When Susan L. Hays “Five kids in a duplex on a busy road where the kids can’t play didn’t last long,” says Hays, who was impressed with the ranch. The multiple-story log structures, where many members live in a somewhat communal style, reminded her of condominiums in Aspen, Colo. @@Malonis, Natalie Notes: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dfthx7q4_1042v7t78kgk&hl=en @@marshall, bethany TV psychoanalyst who made up incredible charges of sex abuse for Nancy Grace shows NANCY GRACE http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/ng.01.html FLDS Compound Child Custody in Texas Courts Aired April 17, 2008 - 20:00:00 BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: Well, I think what you see is that these women themselves were probably raped, molested and abused when they were young, which caused them to completely disassociate from the reality of how they feel and from what is going on around them. And because of that, they`re disconnected from the reality of this situation. Like the redhead we were just watching, her affect -- she looked so stunned. She`s in a complete disassociated state. @@Medical tests http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 4. The widely circulated, independent eye-witness accounts of CPS abuse are just the tip of the iceberg. Millie points to widespread invasive or intrusive medical tests and procedures, some coerced and others demanded, that doctors didn’t think necessary and the FLDS victims did not want. In one case involving one of the pregnant mothers, CPS tried to force an M.D. to approve a bone scan in an effort to establish that the mother was really a minor because CPS thought they could show that her pelvis was too narrow for an adult. After CPS lied to both M.D. and patient about what the other was saying, the M.D. ended up telling CPS to get lost unless the patient would agree to the test. She also says that during visitations, caseworkers would busy themselves trying to “prove” — by looking in kids noses and other similarly intrusive procedures — that the visiting mother was not, in fact, the mother of the children being visited. @@Meisner, Marleigh CPS's Bagdhad Bob of spin. "The kids are happy, playing and worshipping freely". Started 16 years ago as caseworker, veteran of Waco tragedy. http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270818,00.html Fallout from FLDS raid is intense Texas authorities defend removal of 416 children By Amy Joi O'Donoghue Deseret News Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 a.m. MDT %%Statements http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3025493 401 children taken by child protective services in Texas April 7th, 2008 @ 10:00pm April 7: "It was certainly enough that a district judge in the state of Texas determined that these children were at risk, and judges in Texas don't take those accusations lightly," said Marleigh Meisner, with Texas Child Protective Services. "We do believe that there probably are other children, and if so, those children will also be removed," Meisner explained. They're already running out of room at Fort Concho. They may have to open more shelters if there are more kids. @@Monica Picture of woman on steps in glasses, redhead. http://kamlon.i.ph/blogs/kamlon/2008/04/18/el-dorado-polygamyst-cult-seized-by-cps/ @@Moroni Check out newsweek article on rozita swinton. This was all a complete fraud and you were duped. There were only two pregnant "unmarried teenagers", both with proof that they were married, 18 and 22, but since judge walther was told they were all liars they were DETAINED ILLEGALLY so that the state could collect their babies. Wake Up America, you need to apologize and start researching the travestry that REALLY happened to these brave Americans who were the heroes and victms, and the state / local authorities from Gov Perry down to Angie voss who need to be fired or step down - the bad guys got away. awarthurhu | Homepage | 07.31.08 - 11:47 am | # I think that AW Arthur Hu knows that it was a travesty. I wish people knew how the propaganda machine is trying to paint a gray picture to abuse the public. To confuse us with accusations unfounded and contrived. I worry about how we accept our news as a nation. We are free to live our religion as long as we are trying to, as long as it fits a mold. when people begin to pray as many times as Daniel did in the Bible, they had better watch-out. Moroni | Homepage | 09.10.08 - 3:37 pm | # @@Musser, Marie Sobbing woman, 32 clinging to pole on YouTube and news photos, wrote account of the raid, separated from 3 sons. http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=73 Day by Day Events of the YFZ Ranch Raid Personal Experiences by Marie J. Musser http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559808/Polygamist-underage-sex-cult-case-descends-farce-judge-struggles-control-lawyers-parents.html
    Mormon polygamist mothers

    Bereft: Mother Marie, 32, sobs after being separated from her three sons, aged five to nine

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  • Older sister of Elissa Wall, helped guide investigation after raid.
  • @@Musser, Rebecca Older sister of Elissa Wall, helped with formulating questions to ask children, and helped Voss, but did not help get original search warrant. Texas officials deny ex-FLDS members involved in search warrant Deseret News (Salt Lake City), Apr 19, 2008 by Nancy Perkins Deseret News E-mail Print Link http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_/ai_n25352662 SAN ANGELO, Texas -- Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran said Friday that Rebecca Musser, a former member of the FLDS Church, did not help law enforcement obtain a search warrant to raid the YFZ Ranch. "That is totally inaccurate," the sheriff said in a telephone call to the Deseret News. "Rebecca Musser is an expert on the FLDS who assisted law enforcement and child protective services with cultural awareness and sensitivity issues. I networked with Becky; she is not my confidential informant." Doran's jurisdiction includes the YFZ Ranch, a sprawling 1,700- acre property that includes numerous buildings, houses, community gardens and the polygamous sect's first and only temple. Doran has said he gathered information about the FLDS over the past four years from a confidential informant. Musser is an older sister of Elissa Wall, who was married at age 14 to a 19-year-old cousin by FLDS prophet Warren Jeffs. Both women provided key testimony that led to the conviction of Jeffs, jurors said following the trial. Musser also was married as a young woman to Jeffs' elderly father, Rulon. Several jurors said that Musser's testimony helped convince them that Jeffs was guilty of two counts of rape as an accomplice by conducting the "spiritual" marriage. Musser and Wall testified that Jeffs refused to delay or stop the marriage, even though Wall objected to the union. Jeffs is awaiting trial on similar charges in Mohave County, Ariz. Angie Voss, a Texas child protective services supervisor, testified Thursday that she consulted with two experts to learn more about the Fundamentalist LDS Church. When questioned by an attorney for some of the fathers of FLDS children being held in state custody, Voss said she leaned on Musser and Bruce Perry, a child psychologist and cult expert who testified for the state Friday. [Perry who admitted he knew nothing about the FLDS except what he'd read in the media.] Perry's testimony Friday centered on his work with children raised in oppressive or controlled environments. In his discussions with Musser, he said, he learned that the FLDS definition of choice is "not a healthy one." "I did talk to Becky Musser. She had been married to Rulon Jeffs, and when he died she was given the option of marrying Warren Jeffs. She refused that and left the group," said Perry, adding the impression he was given from Musser was that she had to "marry in the group or leave." Doran's work with Musser continues on an "as-needed" basis, he said. "Early on, after the search warrant was initiated, Becky helped us with questions concerning this group that would assist law enforcement," the sheriff said. "She is one among many people that I spoke to and she assisted child protection services with their investigations and with the questions they should ask." @@Numbers %%Revision CPS revises FLDS numbers — again By Ben Winslow Deseret News http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700256619,00.html Published: Saturday, Sept. 6, 2008 1 As of Friday, CPS said it has filed to nonsuit 268 individuals, including the 26 "disputed minors" whom the agency initially believed to be children but were really adults Only one girl, a 14-year-old alleged to have been married at age 12 to FLDS leader Warren Jeffs, has been placed back in foster care after a judge ruled her mother was unable to protect her from abuse @@Opinions, Anti-flds http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ Unbelievable. That there are people native to America who believe that 14-year old American citizens should become part of a harem just because they are girls. Fking jack Mormons. They should all have been exterminated a long time ago. Fking pedophiles. It’s not too late to stake them all out on an anthill. With wet rawhide getting and tighter as it dries and their eyelids cut off so they cannot shut out the sun. Comment by nk — 4/18/2008 @ 10:07 am http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ As horrible as it may be for you to contemplate abused children in the custody of “CPS feminazis with an agenda”, I can almost guarantee I find it more horrible to contemplate those same abused children being handed back to their abusers, to be raped by totalitarian old men on an enclosed ranch in the middle of nowhere, with little hope for rescue at any point in the foreseeable future (assuming that the state blows its current chance). As far as the plan to “dump [the children] across the state in Montgomery County” being “torture for children and their mothers” goes, I think you’re going out on a limb to assume that these children will have any lasting desire to remain in contact with mothers who facilitated, or would’ve facilitated (if given the chance), their abuse at the hands of the aforementioned totalitarian old men. And I think any mother who facilitated such abuse (or, once again, would’ve facilitated such abuse if given the chance) has no right to continued custody of her children. I agree with nk. Child-rapists, more than murderers, deserve the death penalty. Comment by Leviticus — 4/18/2008 @ 11:05 am I think you are the one going out on a limb here. You can’t say what the children think or will do. I dare say a good portion will probably willingly stay with their families. Not because they were ‘brainwashed’ (and I count brainwashed as a lot of the mandatory public school curriculum) but because they love their families Comment by tps — 4/18/2008 @ 11:31 am http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/93515/behind_the_cloak_of_polygamy/ similar sort of child-rescue effort took place, this time at the Yearning for Zion Ranch near Eldorado, Texas -- reportedly the new headquarters of the FLDS. Texas child-welfare authorities, acting on an (fradulent) abuse complaint from an anonymous caller, eventually (illegally) removed more than 450 children from the property and put them in foster care. "It uncovers how claims of religious and parental rights can be a cloak for abusive and criminal behavior. And it suggests that deference to religion and parental rights must sometimes be overweighed in favor of protecting the safety and human rights of women and children. ANDREA MOORE-EMMETT is author of God's Brothel: The Extortion of Sex for Salvation in Contemporary Mormon and Christian Fundamentalist Polygamy and the Stories of 18 Women Who Escaped (Pince-Nez Press, 2004). http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn I'd just rather not think how any true, kind hearted, loving, devoted, God fearing mother could set back and watch or allow some 50 year old sick slobbering pervert to rape her underage daughter. And afterwards consider it her Godly duty done and go back to making more of these angel babies to be yet again delivered like a lamb to slaughter to more perverted demons from hell. States do not just jump in take over 400 children for the fun of it. They had to have undeniable proof and evidence of possibly something far more sinister than has been banded about by media. researchologist | 05.16.08 - 1:14 pm | # @@Palmer, Allison http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/183-removed-from-flds-compound-so-far/ FLDS members bar authorities from temple By Paul A. Anthony (Contact) Originally published 05:30 p.m., April 5, 2008 Updated 06:06 p.m., Citing their religious convictions that no nonbeliever should set foot inside the temple, a group of members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have rejected authorities' requests to search the temple for a 16-year-old girl whose complaint triggered the massive, three-day raid, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound. @@Parody http://www.digitaljournal.com/blog/432 A Little Ditty About The Eldorado Kids Posted Jun 4, 2008 by KJ (momentsintime) in World 1 comment sorry folks I couldn't help myself Slip sliding away, slip sliding away You know the more you persecute, the more you see Texas money slide away Whoah and I know a sect, they came from Eldorado They wore their passion for their many women like a thorny crown He said wives, I live in fear My thought of the courts is so overpowering, I'm afraid that the kids will disappear I know a little girl, (who) became a wife These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said a good day I don't share my man She said a bad day is when I lie in the bed And I think of whose turn it is again And I know a father who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons for the things he'd done He came a long way just to explain why he threw him away He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping under an overpass Then he turned around and he headed home again Whoah God only knows, God makes his plan The informations unavailable to the mortal man Were workin our jobs, collect our pay Believe we're right when we're gliding down the highway taking the kids away, when in fact we're slip sliding Texas money away original lyrics: slip sliding away by paul simon @@Plan Bloggers believe that CPS intended to take all the children before they ever asked questions. I agree, no way they could switch over from asking questions at 11PM to giving the green light to swat teams and foster homes and getting approval for putting a dozen girls in protective custody 6 hours later before sunrise. THEY KNEW THEY WERE TAKING ALL THE CHILREN BEFORE THEY WENT IN http://www.haloscan.com/comments/spreeeziee/534539162846328481/?src=hsn What people seem to be missing is that CPS and DPS knew they were doing this raid and knew they were taking ALL the children BEFORE they ever went. Can you imagine what Susan and others on this thread would be saying if CPS and DPS "raided" a housing project in Dallas, Houston, or anywhere else, and took ALL the children from the project? Their posts would not be the same, would they? the children." Bill | 05.27.08 - 1:47 pm | # @@Pregnant teens Louisa Jessop, 22 was the 13 year old who had a baby. Pamela Jessop was also classified "pregant teen" Third girl refused to take pregnancy test There were NO pregnant teens. wikipedia ref: "Most teen girls from ranch have been pregnant", MSNBC (28 April 2008). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24356447 Sect teen gives birth with state standing by Of 53 girls ages 14-17, 31 have children or are pregnant, Texas officials say updated 3:56 p.m. PT, Tues., April. 29, 2008 SAN MARCOS, Texas - One of the hundreds of young polygamist-sect members taken into state custody gave birth Tuesday to a healthy boy while child welfare officials, state troopers and fellow sect members stood watch outside the maternity ward. VOSS SAYS (INCORRECTLY) THAT FIVE GIRLS UNDER 18 WERE PREGNANT http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27646 Testimony: Pregnant Teens At FLDS Ranch By Randy Sly 4/19/2008 Catholic Online (www.catholic.org) WASHINGTON (Catholic Online) – Investigator Angie Voss, an investigator with the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, indicated in testimony yesterday that some girls may have had children when they were minors. She further testified that at least five girls who under the age of 18 are currently pregnant. In her testimony, Voss also indicated that it was hard to tell underage teens from some of the younger adults. During the investigation concerns over the accuracy of age and status of some individuals became heightened as members gave different names and ages at various times when they were questioned Voss stated. “If the prophet said they were to lie, they were to do that.” http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ DRJ, come on- Ross *says* that *one* of the girls at the ranch told her she’d heard of a girl giving birth as young as 13 and Ross’ testimony on that point was stricken from the record as hearsay. They have no name, no date, no location- nothing but a Ross saying one of the girls told her that she’d heard of one. Who knows what sort of leading questions Ross asked to get that? It might have merely been, “Have you ever heard of a 13 year old giving birth?” and the answer was “Why, yes, I have heard of it.” That is not evidence of the sort to justify removing 416 children from their homes. They don’t even know if the girl who told Ross that (and so far, none of the other FLDS people know what she’s talking about) knew what she was talking about, understood the question, or even said what Ross says she said. Ross ALSO says that some of the girls supposedly say they knew Sarah, and we now KNOW that the ‘Sarah’ in question is a hoax. So clearly something fishy was going on in that questioning of the girls, whether on her part or theirs I do not know. Maybe they were just trying to tell her what they thought she wanted to hear (and she obviously did want to hear that). http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/peeking-in-for-minute.html Read on. 22 year old Louisa Jessop is also on the chart more than once, and CPS says she's their 13 year old who had a baby. Angie Voss just gave her a couple of extra kids on her chart. Posted by Headmistress, zookeeper at 5/16/2008 10:51:00 PM COURT WOULD NOT ACCEPT PROOF OF AGE - VOSS WAS LYING OR JUST WRONG? http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ So far we have five girls from the ages of 16-19 who are pregnant or have babies, from a total of ten girls whose records Voss presented to the court as having been married from 16-19. The other ‘girls’ are women who had records proving their ages- those were records that Voss and the Judge simply refused to accept, saying they ‘might’ be forged. However, “coordinating attorneys, legal aid attorneys and guardians ad litem announced an undisclosed number of 20-30 young women whose adult status had been debated had indeed been determined to be legally adults.” Whether Voss was lying or genuinely mistaken, or mistaken because she was predisposed to belief the worst, I don’t know. I do know that what she represented to the court was not factual. She did not have the number of underaged mothers she claimed. And she only offered evidence of ten. And she said in court that she doesn’t even know *if she tried* to ascertain if any of the teen boys were the fathers (and there is good reason to believe at least one of them is)- does that sound like the answer a person trying their hardest to be honest and above board and fair would give? Not to me. She might have tried unsuccessfully, or she might not have tried at all. There’s no way she does not even know if she tried or not. Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/22/2008 @ 11:49 am @@Photo miketerry.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html photos of fort concho, courthouse @@Purpose of Internment Purpose of internment was actually more for fishing for evidence than proteting children. AP: Texas drops half of cases in polygamist sect raid By MICHELLE ROBERTS 9/5/2008 http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD9304KG02 Crimmins said the agency never intended to take the FLDS children from their parents permanently. "We never brought the kids into care to keep them in care. We brought them into care to do an efficient and effective investigation," he said. @@San Angelo Site of Wells Fargo Pavillion, Coliseum, and Green County Courthouse. Latitude 31.22 N and Longitude 100.30 W wp: San Angelo is a city in and the county seat of Tom Green County[3], Texas, United States. It is also the principal city of the "San Angelo, Texas Metropolitan Statistical Area" that includes all of Irion and Tom Green counties. As of the 2000 census, San Angelo had a total population of 88,439. %%Fort Concho FLDS detainees moved here from Eldorado churches and civic center %%San Angelo Coliseum Domed arena opened in 1958. Air conditioned. Next shelter after Concho. http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/jun/18/san-angelo-convention-and-entertaiment-venues/ San Angelo Coliseum: 50 E. 43rd St. Used year round for rodeos, circuses, concerts and other events. Capacity: 6,000 The coliseum is behind the pavilion %%Wells Fargo Pavilion Wells Fargo Pavilion: 4608 Grape Creek Rd., 653-7785, www.sanangelorodeo.com. Recently renovated 20,000-square-foot pavilion is host to everything from dances and wedding receptions to fundraisers and arts and crafts shows. Full kitchen facilities. Capacity: 1,000, next to the coliseum. @@Sealed at 12??? In Session Message Boards http://boards.insessiontrials.com/archive/index.php/t-334981-p-3.html tophound08-22-2008, 11:01 AM Carolyn's book is about 90% hogwash! And this child who was betrothed to Warren Jeffs at 12 was just that, betrothed. This is not a consumated marriage. There was no "wedding night". Or at least not one with Warren Jeffs. To be betrothed to the prophet is an honor. It assures a very high place in the Celestial Kingdom. I have written extensively about the FLDS practices. I guess no one remembers from one post to the next. MARRIAGE JUST ISN'T ABOUT SEX IN THE FLDS! And there are quite a number of young women, right now, who are 17-23/24 in the community who are not married because they have said either they are not ready of they have said no to a recommended partner. Most member who practice polygamy, and all don't practice, have fewer than five wives. Three is typical. And the last marriage is often no later than when the husband is in his mid thirties. There are many, many monogamous couples in the community. Or couples that remain monogamous for many years and only add a sister wife at long intervals. Barbara Jessop plead the fifth on the advice of counsel. She is heartbroken about what is happening. She knows her daughter is very, very resilliant and will, in the long run, be fine. However, her heart bleeds for her child today. And no one here knows her heart. And Carolyn is simply a liar about this. Barbara is hurting beyond belief. Someone said they want to learn about the group, but when information is given you say it is bull. You seemingly reject anything that doesn't fit your very ugly, negative ideas about this group. And to say they should be more part of mainstream society is the height of judgmental. Who in the heck are any of us to decide our society is better? Should all the Amish do the same? How about all the "Christian Right"? They don't fit "my society" at all. Should I say they are somehow aberrant if they don't stop what I consider crazy thinking and ways and join how I live my life? And once and for all, PLEASE stop believing that these folks are uneducated! Or being coereced to stay. This is a choice! They each are well aware of all the agencies standing at the ready to help them leave and transition. They almost all have relatives living outside the community to help, if help is wanted. They don't WANT to leave! And they aren't coerced into things. I have a friend who was asked to leave to repent for something he did. His wife and children chose to remain in the community. And she is there. Waiting. She has not indicated she wants a new husband. And no one is forcing her to do that. If her husband, at some point, decides he is not going to make his way back to Roux08-22-2008, 11:13 AM tophound I don't want to quote your entire post due to its length, but it is not true that the marriages were not consumated. No, I was not in the room -- I base my opinion on the photo of Warren, his underage wife, and their baby and the "comfort wife" letter from the 12 yr old. Any female who has had an intimate relationship understands the implications of her words @@Sexual Abuse CPS says **sexual abuse** encouraged at Texas polygamist ranch at hearing By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News kmbrooks@dallasnews.com 07:08 AM CDT on Friday, April 18, 2008 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/dmn/stories/041808dntexCPShearings.3bd16d8.html Horror of the Texas Child Sex Cult Ranch By Anton Antonowicz Mirror (United Kingdom) April 10, 2008 Hundreds of children bred for sex Girls of 10 forced to wed older men http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/10/horror-of-the-child-sex-cult-89520-20378179/ Some had never seen outside world It was a series of tormented phonecalls from a terrified teenage girl which finally brought the horror to an end. The 16-year-old had broken her silence to report a distressing catalogue of unimaginable abuse. Her voice hushed and barely audible, she told a local family violence refuge how her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her @@Sick children http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/042908dntexpolygamist.ac3e120c.html 31 of 53 teen girls from polygamist sect are pregnant or have children 08:17 AM CDT on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 By ROBERT GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News Sick children: CPS confirmed that nine of the sect's children have been hospitalized while in the state's care and six are currently in a hospital. The ailments have included dehydration, ear infections and respiratory problems. @@Smart, Elizabeth Famous kidnapping case compared to Ruby Jessop and FLDS bride abduction. http://www.agreka.com/about_elizabeth_smart_on_polygamy.htm ELIZABETH SMART By John R. Llewellyn, Polygamy Expert There are no longer any doubts that Brian David Mitchell, abductor of Elizabeth Smart, is another wretched product of the Mormon fundamentalist subculture. @@Smoker http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=162 Since that time, I have learned from some of the mothers who were at the shelters that CPS workers really did huddle outside at night; and with this new information, in all fairness to this much-maligned agency, I hasten to set the record straight. Almost every CPS worker at the shelters was a smoker. For mothers and children used to breathing fresh, unpolluted air, the continual cloud of tobacco smoke was highly offensive as well as injurious to their health. At the earnest entreaties of the mothers, CPS workers agreed to move outside for their cigarette breaks. @@Steed, Allen As for Feb 2009, the accused "rapist" still had no trial date, even though Warren Jeffs was convicted for rape as accomplace http://s1.zetaboards.com/Selective_Justice/topic/658586/7/#new Still no trial date, or any court date for any purpose for Allen Steed. @@Sun April 2008 Dallas, Texas 1 Sunrise: 7:15am Sunset: 7:46pm Moonrise: 4:32am Moonset: 3:15pm 2 Sunrise: 7:13am Sunset: 7:47pm Moonrise: 5:05am Moonset: 4:20pm 3 Sunrise: 7:12am Sunset: 7:48pm Moonrise: 5:35am Moonset: 5:25pm 4 Sunrise: 7:11am Sunset: 7:49pm Moonrise: 6:05am Moonset: 6:32pm 5 Sunrise: 7:10am Sunset: 7:49pm Moonrise: 6:36am Moonset: 7:41pm New Moon: 9:56pm 6 Sunrise: 7:08am Sunset: 7:50pm Moonrise: 7:09am Moonset: 8:53pm 7 Sunrise: 7:07am Sunset: 7:51pm Moonrise: 7:47am Moonset: 10:07pm 8 Sunrise: 7:06am Sunset: 7:51pm Moonrise: 8:30am Moonset: 11:21pm 9 Sunrise: 7:04am Sunset: 7:52pm Moonrise: 9:21am Moonset: none 10 Sunrise: 7:03am Sunset: 7:53pm Moonrise: 10:21am Moonset: 12:32am 11 Sunrise: 7:02am Sunset: 7:54pm Moonrise: 11:26am Moonset: 1:36am 12 Sunrise: 7:01am Sunset: 7:54pm Moonrise: 12:35pm Moonset: 2:30am First Qtr: 12:32pm 13 Sunrise: 7:00am Sunset: 7:55pm Moonrise: 1:42pm Moonset: 3:14am 14 Sunrise: 6:58am Sunset: 7:56pm Moonrise: 2:47pm Moonset: 3:51am 15 Sunrise: 6:57am Sunset: 7:56pm Moonrise: 3:49pm Moonset: 4:23am 16 Sunrise: 6:56am Sunset: 7:57pm Moonrise: 4:48pm Moonset: 4:51am Courtesy of www.sunrisesunset.com Steve Edwards @@SWAT, Midland County SWAT team came armed with M-16 assault rifles, body armor, M113 APC, SWAT van very similar in appearance to TV show. www.midland-mi.org/government/departments/police/SWAT.htm The Midland S.W.A.T. team consists of nine S.W.A.T. officers and one negotiation officer. Of those team members, eight are from the City of Midland Police Department and two are from the Midland County Sheriff's Office. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/5707407.html COMMENTARY A watchful eye helped avoid 'fiasco' By LISA FALKENBERG Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle April 16, 2008, 11:54PM they brought the armored personnel carrier. And the Midland County SWAT team. And the automatic weapons, for good measure. But authorities didn't have to use any of them to gain entrance into the Yearning for Zion Ranch during a raid on the polygamist compound in West Texas earlier this month. Despite pictures of the readied weapons, released this week by the sect's attorney to The Associated Press, authorities' actual method of entry was far less dramatic. Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran simply pulled up in his four-door Chevy pickup, as he has done on numerous occasions over the past few years, and asked to come inside. Then, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said, the sheriff, along with two Texas Rangers, served a search warrant prompted by a teen girl's report of abuse by her 50-year-old husband. There was little resistance and the raid went off without incident. http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695270749,00.html RavenPrecept | 12:31 p.m. May 24, 2008 Look at the enlarged photo of that vehicle. You can see the kill marks. 2 people and a car. http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270749,00.html While some may question the use of an armored personnel carrier — believing it's overkill — Mange said the carrier was not there to make entry on the ranch. "It was there to make sure everything went well and we could get someone out quickly if we needed to," she said. http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ Re: your link to the picture of the armored personnel carrier at the compound — Click on this Eldorado Success newspaper link for a picture of the armored personnel carrier at the compound with the FLDS boys inside. The picture shows 4 interested FLDS boys inside the carrier with a SWAT officer, and this is the caption: “Several boys from the YFZ ranch are given a tour of the Midland County armored personnel carrier by S.W.A.T. officer (upper left) as the 6-day-long search continued on the polygamous compound.” Comment by DRJ — 4/17/2008 @ 10:39 pm http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/swat-teamlight-infantry-platoonits-such-a-fine-line/ April 16, 2008...6:35 am swat team…light infantry platoon…it’s such a fine line. Jump to Comments Tamara raises an eyebrow at the level of gear brought to the party by state and local law enforcement when they raided the Polygamist Mormon compound in Texas. Choice quote: WTF is Midland County doing with an armored personnel carrier? And more importantly, what is it doing in Schleicher County a couple of hundred miles from home? Did Midland County SWAT get likkered up one night, go joyriding in the APC, and get lost? I think that’s an excellent question. When you equip and train the police like soldiers, you don’t have to worry about running afoul of Posse Comitatus when you use military hardware against the citizenry. This marks the first instance of me reading the term “Mechanized Law Enforcement.” Heh. I might just start using that one, but it wouldn’t be a shock at all to me if we took a glimpse into the future of community policing to find that in thirty years, the Midland County Sheriff’s Office and SWAT team have merged into A Company, 2nd Battalion, 14th Mechanized Law Enforcement Brigade. http://www.county.org/resources/library/county_mag/county/094/knock.html KNOCK! KNOCK! Smith County Sheriff's Office goes armored Smith County Sheriff J.B. Smith gets tickled when he talks about his new armored personnel carriers. Not that he's proud of getting $2 million worth of military track vehicles free. Not even so much that outlaws will almost certainly come out with their hands up, as they did in Fort Davis in May. Mostly, he gets tickled because these cop cars on steroids are good politics. "If you do a good job, you automatically are doing good politics. I have a great staff. They take care of business, and I take care of politics. I don't know if that'd work in Alpine or Houston, but I know how it works in Tyler, Texas," the six-term sheriff said. The armored personnel carriers, or APCs, brought favorable national attention to Smith County when the Texas Department of Public Safety borrowed them and a pair of deputies to operate them in order to convince Republic of Texas leader Richard McLaren to end his standoff. Part of the national attention, however, irritated Smith and his officers assigned to the vehicles. Detective Don Cox, APC driver and National Guardsman, said a CBS reporter insisted on calling it a tank and asked why a sheriff's office needed so much firepower. "They're not tanks. Those are twice as big with a very large cannon. There's no gun on here," Cox said. There were guns on them, though, before the Texas Army National Guard turned a pair of the M-25A1 Armored Personnel Carriers over to Smith County. Each had only six hours of service on them. The 81mm mortar cannon and it's turret base have been removed to squeeze in up to 14 sweaty SWAT team members and their gear. "It's not a luxury ride," said one SWAT officer Named Bubba 1 and Bubba 2, each weighs 13 tons, moves on tank-like tracks and has a 600-horsepower diesel engine that can push it along at 40 miles per hour and up 60-degree grades. It'll also float, as long as the driver seal its off before putting it in the water, where it will paddle along at four miles per hour. The Smith County SWAT team has already begun training with the APCs, which will knock down medium-sized trees and make unique entries into buildings. The vehicles can provide a means of safe approach to a hostile scene (as in Fort Davis), make cover for officers, or move between harm's way and a wounded man to allow medical help to work in relative safety. The APC's armor will stop a .50 caliber round, (actually 7.62 rifle rounds) making more common, less powerful small arms ineffective against it. "I have full hopes that we never have to use them," Smith said. Perhaps they won't see much police work, but already they've become invaluable public relations collateral. Then there's the good politics of it all. Smith said it wasn't obvious at first. "I was called about eight months ago by this deputy I have who works full time traveling to military bases looking for surplus. He said, 'I have found two armored personnel carriers up here in Texarkana. They're free.' And I said, 'We don't need any armored personnel carriers, thank you very much.'" "So one of my SWAT team officers said, 'Wait a minute, sheriff. There have been needs in the past for an armored personnel carrier in situations where we could have rescued a hostage, or in times where we wanted to go into areas where we couldn't drive vehicles.'" Smith said. "Now we're looking at using them in drug eradication, finding drug fields in the deep woods. This is East Texas." Smith's deputies knew the vehicles would be used eventually. The SWAT team was obviously making plans, training with them, painting over the Army camouflage with department logos and "Knock! Knock!" on the front. No one had any idea they'd be called to Fort Davis. "They called us the first day, and we were there in fifteen hours. That's when they put their state trooper SWAT team in the back. They started using the vehicles within thirty minutes of their arrival," Smith said. DPS and Midland County SWAT teams were chauffeured by Smith County deputies daily as teams cleared the neighborhood and made pickups and deliveries of 'diplomatic pouches' to McLaren's base. @@Swinton %%Arrest Warrant http://www.thedenverchannel.com/download/2008/0424/15973635.pdf http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/04/24/flds.pdf Arrest Warrant http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/archives/2008_05_01_archive.htm The call that started it all, part three Continuing from the Rozita Swinton arrest warrant: ''On April 10, 2008, Schleicher County (Texas) Deputy Conner was contacted by someone named (deleted) at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women and advised that a shelter worker was on the telephone with Sarah Barlow. ''Deputy Conner had Clagget establish a three-way call . . . Deputy Conner advised that Sarah Barlow sounded as if she was crying. Sarah Barlow had repeatedly said she felt she would be punished for the trouble she caused. ''Sarah Barlow insisted that if she came forward her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow also stated that the ''sisterwives'' were instructing her to tell authorities that she was their daughter and that Sarah Barlow’s baby belonged to the ‘’sisterwives.’’ Sarah Barlow stated that the baby's name was Claire and that she was about eight months old. Sarah Barlow also stated that she had a twin sister in Colorado City, Utah, and requested if Deputy Conner could assist with getting her twin sister and mother out of Colorado City, Utah. Deputy Conner agreed. ''Sarah Barlow would say during the conversation that the women at the shelter where she was at would bring the children teddy bears and the boys would get small cars. Sarah Barlow also advised that she didn't want to talk to one of the social workers because she was wearing a short sleeved shirt. Sarah Barlow also stated that the ''sisterwives'' had told her the workers were trying to poison the people from the YFZ Ranch with food in shiny wrappers. ''Sarah Barlow was also angry with a woman named (deleted) that Sarah Barlow had contacted on March 29, 2008, and faults (deleted) for the YFZ Ranch being raided by law enforcement. Ranger Kemp was aware that (name deleted) was one of the first women that had been called by Sarah Barlow on March 29, 2008, at the NewBridge Family Shelter in San Angelo, Texas. Ranger Kemp was not aware of (deleted) name being released to any media outlets. Sarah Barlow also informed Deputy Conner that the location she was at had multiple buildings, but she would not describe the buildings. ''Sarah Barlow would terminate the calls, stating that the ''sisterwives'' were coming or that she had to pray on the topic of telling Deputy Conner her location and would call back later. Deputy Conner advised that he would wear a shirt of any color Sarah Barlow requested in order for Sarah Barlow to identify him for assistance to leave the shelter area. ''Sarah Barlow advised Deputy Conner not to wear red. Sarah Barlow also stated she wanted to leave the shelter at nighttime. Each time that Deputy Conner would request a description of Sarah Barlow’s location she would not answer and finally hung up. To be continued . . . 9:57 AM | 3 comments The calls that started it all continued . . . I continue here from the last post, providing excerpts from the Rozita Swinton arrest warrant . . . Th worker ''advised that she worked at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women where she had been in telephone contact with Sarah Barlow. Sarah Barlow advised Woodward that her husband, Dale Barlow, was living at 13031 8th Avenue West in Everett, Washington. An Internet search revealed that the location was for the Cobble Hill Apartments in Everett, Washington. ''Sarah Barlow advised (the worker) that she married Dale Barlow when she was fourteen (14) years old and was Dale Barlow's third wife. Sarah Barlow advised she had been moved to the YFZ Ranch approximately three weeks ago and was assigned to a new husband named ''Merrill.'' Sarah Barlow also advised she had just been moved from the YFZ Ranch in the last few days and was not sure where she was. ''Sarah Barlow was fearful of revealing her true identity to anyone for fear that the ''sisterwives'' had told her that her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow had also told Woodward that the ''sisterwives'' had told her to claim she was their daughter and not a wife of ''Merrill's.'' The worker stated that Sarah Barlow had spoken in Biblical terms. ''Having been involved in the recent investigation into the allegations at the YFZ Ranch in Texas, Ranger Kemp was aware that the terms ''sisterwives'' and being ''assigned'' to a new husband were common terminology used by the women from the YFZ Ranch in referring to fellow wives of the men and also that women were reassigned to different husbands for various reasons in the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints religion. The worker was reluctant to provide the information for fear of repercussions. page 4 of 8 I responded to Urban Peak and played a portion of the recorded conversation I had made of "Dana Anderson". Ms. Ming identified the female on the audiotape as the same girl she had been speaking to known as "April". On February 26, 2008 at 1440 hours, Officers J. Whittmore R Mooney andSegeant Martin were dispatched to 8220 Candon Drive to investigate two 911 calls from a small female child asking for or identifying herself as "Jennifer" (CSPD case 08-06693) According to the calls, an unknown child, approximately four years of age, was claiming to be locked in her basement since Friday because she had gotten into trouble. The calls were coming in from a prepaid Tracphone (719-351-0913) Through a GPS and reverse 911 tracking, the 911 calls were identified as having come from the areas of the 8100 or 8200 blocks of Steadman Drive or Candon Drive. Officers conducted door-to-door neighborhood contacts with residents and searches of homes along these streets. During the neighborhood contacts the officers were contacted by Jennifer Pierce. Ms. Pierce asked if the officers were looking for a female claiming to be locked in a basement. Ms. Pierce advised she knew who officers were looking for. Officer Whittmore advised that Ms. Pierce briefed him on her history with Dana Anderson. Ms. Pierce provided the current contact telephone number she had for Dana since October 2007 with only a brief gap during which Dana had told Ms. Pierce she was in Texas with a relative named Maria. On March 4, 2008, I met with Ms. Pierce at the Police Operations Center located at 705 S. Nevada Avenue once again. During the follow-up interview conducted with her she advised she was she advised she was no longer with TESSA as of Feb 28, 2008. Ms. Pierce advised, however she continued to receive telephone calls from "Dana Anderson" on her personal cellular telephone from "Dana's" new telephone number. Dana continued to call her after she had reported the information back in October 2007. .. continue to talk about being locked in the basement and drugged for days on end. On Feb 29, 2008, she had received a phone call from Dana who told her she was currently in the TESSA safe house. She advised Dana told her that it was actually her other personality that went to the safe house. She advised "Dana Anderson" stated "Rozita and Dana" are in the same body but just different personalities. She stated "Dana" described "Rozita" as a dark skin toned black female, 33 years old, who has worked for an insurance agency for a long time. Ms. Pierce stated "Dana" asked her to call her back on "Rozita's" telephone (... 5744). She advised "Dana" told her the "Dana" personality is there to protect Rozita for being hurt. Ms. Pierce stated she contacted a confidential source (employee of TESSA) who confirmed there was a Rozita housed at the safe house. She advised the source would not give Rozita's last name, but confirmed she was a 33 year old black female. Rozita Swinton DOB 10/23/74 a black female 5'8"180 pounds, having black hari and brown eyes, is a known repeat victim who repeatedly reports abuse with the Colorado Springs Police Department. She is identified on Colorado Drivers Licence XXXX A utility check through the ... page 5 of 8 Colorado Springs Utilities on April 15, 2008 showed a current address for Ms Swinton of 4826 Templeton Park Circle, Apartment 125, with a home telephone of xx5744. This same telephone number has been provided by Ms. Swinton in the past in numerous CSPD police reports dating back to 2005. Ms. Swinton is currently employed with State Farm Insurance ... She made a report of sexual abuse on March 9, 2008 CSPD report 08-07773) but refused to give any information to the responding officer. On April 13, 2008, I was contacted by Sergeant Hugh Velasquez regarding information he had obtained from Sergeant Sean Mandel. Mandel told Velasquez he had been contacted by the Texas Rangers in regard to their investigation into the Yearning for Zion YFZ Ranch. Sergeant Mandel related Texas Ranger Brooks Long had advised he had two cellular telephone number listings from the Colorado Springs area (719-351-0913 and 719-243-2866) Sergeant Mandel was aware that the phone number, 719-361-0919 that was possibly related to the reporting party for the YFZ Ranch incident .. was also idenfited in a prior case report. On April 14, 2008, I spoke with Texas Ranger Long and confirmed telephone number ..0913 was in fact a local Colorado Springs telephone number associated with Rozita Swinton. I informed Ranger Long that Rozita Swinton was known to make false reports of sexual abuse to the police and other agencies. The Texas Rangers advised they would be responind to Colorado Springs to conduct further investigation. Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp, a certified peace officer in the state of Texas, advised he had been provided information by Ranger Long that a series of telephone calls were made to the Newbridge Family Shelter beginning March 29, 2008 by a female who identified herself as Sarah Barlow with a date of birth of January 13, 1992. During the calls from March 29, 2008 and March 30, 2008, Sarah Barlow stated she had a a baby that was approximately eight months old and was also currently pregnant with another child. Sarah Barlow identified her "husband" the father of the baby, as Dale Barlow. Dale Barlow was described as a white male that was forty-nine years of age. Sarah Barlow described Dale Barlow as both physically and sexually abusive towards her. Sarah Barlow stated that she and Dale Barlow were currently residing at the YFZ Ranch .. would occasionally cry during conversation with the Family Shelter Crisis Hotline call takers. Sarah desired to leave the YFZ Ranch compound, but stated to call takers (Alissa Thomas and Jessica Carroll) that if she were caught, she would be locked in her room and not allowed to eat. Texas Ranger Kemp was provided a copy of a report by Texas Roger Long that had been written by Schleicher County Deputy Sheriff John Conner, a peace officer. The report indicated that a female caller identified as Sandraw Woodard from Monroe, Washington, had contacted the Sheriff's office and advised she hasd been in telephone contact with a female claiming to be Sarah Barlow age sixteen. Woodard advised that she worked at the page 6 of 8 .. in Everett Washington... Sarah Barlow advised Woodard that she married Dale Barlow when she was fourteen (14) years old and was Dale Barlow's third wife. Sarah advised she had been moved to the YFZ Ranch approximate 3 weeks ago and was assigned to a new husband named "Merrill". Sarah Barlow also advised she had just been moved from the YFZ Ranch in the last few days and was not sure where she was. Sarah Barlow was fearful of revealing her true identity to anyone for fear that the "sisterwives" had told her that her baby would be taken away. Sarah Barlow had also told Woodard that the "sisterwives" had told her to claim she was their daughter and not a wife of "Merrill's". Woodard stated that Sarah Barlow hd spoken in Biblical terms. Having been involved in into the allegations at the YFZ Ranch in Texas, Ranger Kemp was aware that the terms "sisterwives" and being "assigned" to a new husband were common terminology used by the women from the YFZ Ranch in referring to fellow wives of the men and also that women were reassigned to different husbands for various reasons in the Fundamental Latter-Day-Saints (FLDS) religion. Wooward was reluctant to provide the information for fear of repercussions. On April 10, 2008 Schleicher County (Texas) Duputy Conner was contacted by someone named "Karen" at the Snohomish County Shelter for Battered Women and advised that a shelter worker, Kelly Clagget, was on the telephone with Sarah Barlow. Deputy Conner had Clagget establish a three-way call.. Conner advised that Sarah sounded as if she was crying. Sarah had repeatedly said she felt she would be punished for the trouble she caused. Sarah insisted that if she came forward, her baby would be taken away. Sarah also stated that the "sisterwives" were instructing her to tell authoritites that she was their daughter and that Sara's baby belonged to the "sisterwives". Sarah stated that hte baby's name was Claire and that she was eight months old. Sarah also stated that she had a twin sister in Colorado City, Utah and requested if Deputy Conner could assist with getting her twin sister and mother out of Colorado City, Utah, Deputy Conner agreed. Sarah Barlow would say during the conversation that the women at the shelter where she was at would bring the children teddy bears and the boys would get small cars. Sarah Barlow also advised that she didn't want to talk to one of the social workers because she was wearing a short sleeved shirt. page 8 of 8 a search of the telephone records for 719-243-2866 revealed that the Snohomish Battered Women's Shelter in Everett WA was called as well as the Hope Organization in Washington, Utha (also related to Hope for Child Brides); F.M. Jessop in Arizona; the Domestic Violence (Rape Crisis ) line in Colorado Springs, Colorado; and the Abused Counseling and Treatment Center in Ft. Myers Fla. A search of Colordo state court government records, LexisNexis showed Swinton is currently sentenced on a 12 month deferred Sentence for False Reporting (M-3) out of Douglas, County Case 05M01552. Ms. Swinton pled guilty on June 27, 2007. ..numbers show all telephone numbers as Tracphones with no identifying records attached. I would request an increased bond due to Ms. Swinton being a flight and a safety risk to the public. ... I would respectfully request that probable cause be found that SWINTON, Rozita Estraletta AKA: Dana Anderson: DOB: 10/23/74 did within the City of Colorado Springs, County of El Paso and State of Colorado, commit in violation of the Colorado Revised Statutes 1973 as amended, the offense of 18-8-111(2)(B), FALSE REPORTING TO AUTHORITIES CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR (M-3) Applicant: TERRY E. THRUMSTON 984D Colorado Springs Police Department Position: Detective Sworn and Subscribed before me this 16th day of April 2008 I'm going over the Swinton Arrest warrant. Scary stuff. How in the blazes can Crimmins with a straight face claim that the investigation is ongoing with "Sarah" calling so many different people, giving the same name, DOB, baby name, and they know the phone number??? What I'm wondering (and I've seen similar posts) is where the heck did she get the personal phone number of Flora? "a search of the telephone records for 719-243-2866 revealed that the Snohomish Battered Women's Shelter in Everett WA was called as well as the Hope Organization in Washington, Utha (also related to Hope for Child Brides); F.M. Jessop in Arizona; the Domestic Violence (Rape Crisis ) line in Colorado Springs, Colorado; and the Abused Counseling and Treatment Center in Ft. Myers Fla. I got this version from the FLDS document questioning why LE didn't figure out the guy they were looking for wasn't in the state and the girl that was supposed to be there was using a phone with a Colorado phone number. They didn't evidently know that Flora called the Rangers after the Sunday morning phone call. Flora claims she didn't know about Sara's calls to Texas, though she could have put the stories together, and was suspicious of the calls. Flora took the call 8:30 Sunday morning which means she probably was at home, not on duty on a hotline, this indicates it was on her private cellphone which probably means only people she had given the number to would have it. I can only imagine somebody like Flora would be the only one with access to a database with phone numbers of all the shelters that she called, nobody has followed up on where Rosita got the pile of FLDS materials which would appear to rival the materials on this board, or got a crash course on FLDS culture which appears to be the same school Angie Voss went to, Voss was almost certainly trained by Flora - are there records for Texas paying money to Flora for her services someplace?? http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/04/24/flds.pdf This was published the same day the last mothers were separated with the kids forming a line and singing while they were being dragged away screaming Arthur Hu %%Flora FLORA CLAIMS SHE DIDN'T KNOW SARAH CALLED ABOUT YFZ RANCH, KNEW SAME GIRL WAS SARAH, LAURA, AND FRIEND ONLY CONFRONTED AFTER ARREST http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3776483.ece April 19, 2008 'Hoax' cry for help, hundreds of children in custody . . . chaos rules at sect trial Flora Jessop, a former church member who runs a centre for teenage girls trying to escape the polygamist sect, told the Denver Post yesterday that she received a call from Ms Swinton claiming to be an abuse victim named Sarah on March 30. Texas authorities say that a girl with the same name also called a Texas hotline on March 29 claiming that she was suffering abuse in the polygamist compound. The hotline call was not made public until after the raid on the YFZ ranch. “It does kind of indicate [Ms Swinton] made those calls,” Ms Jessop told the Denver Post. “There was no press on it at the time.” Ms Jessop said that she recorded between 30 to 40 hours of daily phone conversations with Ms Swinton, who alternately claimed to be Sarah, Sarah’s twin sister Laura and Laura’s friend. She would call after 8.30pm at night and speak softly, explaining that others in the compound were sleeping. “She was very convincing,” Ms Jessop said. “She very much thought this out.” Ms Jessop said that she confronted Ms Swinton when she called her two hours after her release on Thursday claiming to be Laura’s friend. Ms Swinton admitted that her name was Rose, she said @@Ranch %%Nice http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/discovering_eldorado/print/ Discovering Eldorado In a massive clash between church and state, a band of Texas lawyers learns that individual stories still count October 2008 Issue By Stephanie Francis Ward When Susan L. Hays “Five kids in a duplex on a busy road where the kids can’t play didn’t last long,” says Hays, who was impressed with the ranch. The multiple-story log structures, where many members live in a somewhat communal style, reminded her of condominiums in Aspen, Colo. @@Rape Many charges of rape within FLDS, but not all fall within legal definition of rape, such as rape within a polygamous marriage. %%Jeffs, Warren convicted of "accesory to rape", but the man alleged to have commited the rape has not even been charged, so it appears they only want to persecute Warren rather than the act of rape in itself. %%Jessop, Carolyn "She suffered marital rape in exchange for better emotional treatment" Claims to have been maritally raped. http://www.mahalo.com/carolyn-jessop Carolyn was the fourth of Merril's seven wives" %%Jessop, Flora "If you think your religion gives you the right to rape children, then your religion needs to be burned to the ground," George Knapp, Investigative Reporter Polygamy Possible in One Las Vegas Neighborhood http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=4937132 Flora Jessop: "These children are not children. They are currency. The boys will be used in the labor force. The females are paraded and they are the currency of every man," said Flora Jessop. %%Under the Banner of Heaven "A boy raped one of Debbie's friends when he was twelve and the girl was seven." p. 36 - Rape 12 yr old girl, molesting 4 yr old girl. Older boys taking girls as young as four into a big white barn to play "cows and bulls". When Debbie was four, Winston's fourteen-year-old brother Andrew Blackmore, jammed "a stick up my v and left it in there for a while, telling me to lie very still and not to move @@ReAssign CPS says sexual abuse encouraged at Texas polygamist ranch at hearing By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News kmbrooks@dallasnews.com 07:08 AM CDT on Friday, April 18, 2008 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/dmn/stories/041808dntexCPShearings.3bd16d8.html "If a father fell out of favor in some way, his wives would be reassigned to another man and he would become their father, so the children moved to different houses," she said. The children were "not at all upset by that," Ms. Voss said @@remove all children Texas child advocates believe system failed after FLDS raid By Paul A. Anthony http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12013868 The San Angelo Standard-times Updated: 03/27/2009 06:35:24 PM MDT Ultimately, CPS removed 468 people -- 439 children and 29 women believed at the time to be children. The 468 people, Davis said, had just 18 last names between them. Authorities still removing women, kids from sect's Texas compound Apr. 7, 2008 By: Bill Hanna - McClatchy Newspapers http://www.ecollegetimes.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinterFriendly&uStory_id=3ccf313e-7586-4859-aa31-d571f470226c Mary Jo McCurley, former chair of the State Bar of Texas family law panel, said Sunday. McCurley said that if CPS has evidence that one child had been abused, that would be enough legally to remove all the children. She said she couldn't recall another instance in Texas history where so many children had been moved into protective custody. "It's pretty amazing that the judge had the guts to do that, to remove all of the children," McCurley said. "I can't think of another case where so many children have been removed. Of course, that didn't happen in Waco with the Branch Davidian case and maybe it should have given what happened there. Maybe that's why the judge did it." "I do not believe we have found all of them," Meisner said. "We are continuing to try and find them." Meisner said District Judge Barbara Walther has instructed CPS caseworkers to remove every child from the 1,691-acre YFZ (Yearn For Zion) Ranch. The massive investigation started March 31 when Child Protective Services received a call from a 16-year-old girl at the ranch who reported she had been sexually and physically abused. @@Rescue http://www.agreka.com/about_elizabeth_smart_on_polygamy.htm "The point that I would like to make is that according to FLDS dissidents, law enforcement has been disgracefully lax, and could do much more to rescue Ruby." ELIZABETH SMART By John R. Llewellyn, Polygamy Expert @@Road conspiracy http://www.channelingreality.com/News/FLDS_Ports_to_Plains.htm How about the Ports-to-Plains high priority corridor that originates in Texas and terminates in Colorado. The FLDS property in Eldorado just coincidently happens to be right on the path of the Ports-to-Plains corridor. Eldorado is on U.S. 277, between Sonora and San Angelo, which links I-10 and I-20 in Texas and is part of the Ports-To-Plains Corridor, linking Mexico to Denver, CO The FLDS property - nearly 1,700 acres is 4 miles north of downtown Eldorado. http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd368.htm FLDS RAID AND THE NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY By: Devvy June 13, 2008 © 2008 - NewsWithViews.com Is this 1700 acre ranch in the path of the NAFTA Super highway to Hell? I received an email dated April 16, 2008, which raised my radar: "Eureka! I looked up Eldorado on my DeLorme Atlas, and sure enough, its location is right on the intersections of Hwys 190 and 277, just 10 miles North of major rte, U.S.10. Nearest populated town that I see on the map is San Angelo, Tx. some 60 miles due north of Eldorado..It appears to be right in the path of the planned NAFTA superhighway, which is supposed to connect to a major seaport to be built on the Mexican coast, just across the inlet from Cabo San Lucas at the southern tip of Baja, Calif (Mexican territory). Perhaps to use the town of Mazatlan as the hub of shipping. The port of Long Beach, California, now one of the fourth largest U.S.seaports will become an empty vessel; excuse the pun." I drove into El Dorado from San Angelo, about 45 miles. When you get into El Dorado, you turn left at the Catholic Church and the entrance is four miles up the road. In the middle of this small, rural town is an intersection, 277 and 190. Now, I want you to look at this map, click here. Next look at this one in pdf form. This weekend watch this ten minute video on the Texas Trans Corridor. Watch our fellow Americans beg YOU to help stop this insanity about to destroy their lives and livelihood. And, if you think your property won't be in the way someday of some foreign company and traitors like Governor Rick Perry (R-TX), you're in denial. This IS the destruction of this nation. This octopus of corridors for foreigners to rape our nation via trade is the destruction of the way of life for hundreds of thousands of Texans and MILLIONS of Americans in their path. @@Tank %%Waco http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/albertbates/akbwaco.html The limited plan approved by Reno was to send two Combat Engineering Vehicles (CEVs) inside the HRT's concertina wire just before sunrise. A CEV is an M60 tank which has been modified with a boom to assist in knocking down walls and delivering CS gas. Each CEV would be equipped to project CS using the Mark 5 delivery system -- 15 one second bursts per charge, 6 charges per vehicle, each burst propelled 55 feet by a specially-modified flame thrower. There were enough backup materials at the site for 1800 bursts per vehicle. After the CEVs delivered aerosol CS, a Bradley vehicle near the building would deliver ferret liquid CS rounds into an unfinished construction area near the main structure, to deny access to this zone by church members. If firing commenced from the compound, the Bradleys would deliver liquid ferret rounds into all windows and openings in the church. These were 40 mm shells delivered by grenade launchers that can penetrate a wall or hollow door from 20 yards away. %%YFZ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351450,00.html Polygamist Sect Mothers Deny Allegations of Abuse Wednesday, April 16, 2008 Tela Mange, a state Department of Public Safety spokeswoman, said officers are trained to protect themselves. "Whenever we serve a search warrant, no matter where or when, we are always as prepared as possible so we can ensure the operational safety of the officers serving the warrant, as well as the safety of those who are on the property in question," Mange said. The armored car was precautionary and designed to remove someone from the property, not to force entry onto the ranch, she said. US GOVT MAKES APC TANKS AVAILABLE TO LOCAL POLICE http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w9.html From Local Police to Occupying Army, or LESO: The Greater of Many Evils by William Norman Grigg There are Peacekeepers deployed in US cities, but they're not under UN command. They're armored personnel carriers supplied to “local” police agencies for little or no cost through the Pentagon's Law Enforcement Support Office (LESO), established in 1995 as part of the Defense Logistics Agency. Since that time, the LESO has made huge amounts of military hardware – from boots to helmets to ammo to helicopters and the “Peacekeeper” APCs – available to local and state police agencies, often at little or no cost. https://pubweb.drms.dla.mil/cmis/ABOUTLESO.HTM Law Enforcement Support Office The Law Enforcement Support Office (LESO) administers and executes Section 2576a, Title 10 United States Code, for the Commander, Defense Logistics Agency. The LESO transfers excess DOD equipment to federal and state law enforcement agencies. The 1033 Program (formerly the 1208 Program) provides over 17,000 law enforcement agencies with an avenue to receive DOD excess items, increasing the quality and quantity of equipment they have to carry out their duties @@Tear gas http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/albertbates/akbwaco.html Jamar's weapon of choice was not tear gas -- not even a gas at all. It was CS (O-chlorobenzalmalononitrile) a fine particulate banned from warfare by the Chemical Weapons Convention. Use for domestic law enforcement is against international law and numerous UN human rights conventions. Military branches which use CS are advised by the label that it is lethal in closed areas and should never be used indoors. Moreover, CS in aerosol is extremely flammable, and can be explosive in closed spaces. When burned or mixed with water, it produces a witches' brew of by-products, including hydrogen chloride, carbon monoxide, and hydrogen cyanide Used in Waco raid. Janes: O-chlorobenzalmalononitrile Chemical warfare - Tear agents CS was developed in the 1950s by US authorities as a riot control agent. It was subsequently replaced by CN in common usage and is now used largely in training. It is a white crystalline powder with a pepper-like odour. It has a minimum purity of 96 per cent, is insoluble in water and ethanol, but is soluble in methylene chloride. It is a lacrymator. CS is an eye and skin irritant which prompts the flow of tears with immediate action. @@Teen Pregnancy (The actual rate was ZERO) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/high-teen-pregnancy-rate-found-at-sect-ranch-818167.html Belfast Telegraph - Apr. April 30, 2008 Darrell Azar, of the Texas Child Protective Services, said the high rate of teen pregnancy more than justified the state intervention, which... High teen pregnancy rate found at sect ranch By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles Nearly two-thirds of the teenage girls removed from a polygamist sect earlier this month are either pregnant or have already given birth, officials said yesterday. Of the 53 girls, aged 14 to 17, taken from the Yearning for Zion ranch in the remote west Texas town of Eldorado, 31 were either mothers or mothers-to-be. One was in labour at a hospital in the central Texas town of San Marcos last night. All 463 children at the sect were taken into care after allegations of sexual abuse prompted officials to raid the ranch almost four weeks ago. The children have now been placed in foster homes across Texas. Darrell Azar, of the Texas Child Protective Services, said the high rate of teen pregnancy more than justified the state intervention, which has caused consternation among members of the polygamist sect – the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS). "It shows you a pretty distinct pattern – that it was pretty pervasive," Mr Azar added. @@Television coverage http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ Texas FLDS ad litem: Expect pissed off FLDS teens sassing the judge by Kurt Schulzke Yes, Sean Hannity, I’m talking about you. You’re a big enough man — Bill O’Reilly isn’t and Nancy Grace is hopeless, but I think you have what it takes — to admit when you’ve done wrong. Now’s the time to show what you’re really made of. %%CBS %%Larry King %%Nancy Grace (Nancy Disgrace) @@Temple Standoff Beehive Standard Weekly from June 4, 2008 http://beehivestandardweekly.com/articles/196/1/Texas-Lawyers-Save-Constitution-in-Polygamy-Ruling It makes you wonder about the David Koresh massacre years ago. Clearly, Koresh was a nut case, but was there an element of religious intolerance in the rifle barrels of the Texas authorities? Koresh fought back with violence, the FLDS fought back with lawyers and passive behavior. Who can forget the men crying and falling to their knees as their holy temple was violated by gun carrying invaders with badges. %%arrest http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t9366.html UPDATED: Record child welfare rescue Web Posted: 04/08/2008 09:58 AM CDT Janet Elliott Express-News Austin Bureau one man was arrested and charged with interfering with the duties of a public servant, a class B misdemeanor. That is punishable by up to 180 days in jail and a fine of up to $2,000. "He was not doing what the officers at the scene wanted him to do," Mange said, giving no other details of his actions or his name. Search of FLDS temple site complete By Brian West http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269191,00.html Deseret Morning News Published: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:05 a.m. MDT FLDS faithful surrounded their temple in an attempt to prevent a SWAT team from entering it on Saturday night. "They lined up 57 people, as we counted, around the walls of the temple ... to defend their temple," said Texas Ranger Capt. Barry Caver. "Some would kneel and pray. Some of them were sobbing." Authorities had to use the "jaws of life" and other tools to break down the doors of the temple Saturday night, he said. They had initially requested the FLDS followers to leave the temple doors open or leave them a key in order to search it. Caver said FLDS leaders felt they would be aiding and assisting in the desecration of their sacred building. No one was inside the temple at the time. "We had to breach it physically and every other door inside," Caver said Texas Rangers said the FLDS faithful involved in the brief stand-off were "passive and loving" and did not offer physical resistance, with the exception of Levi Barlow Jeffs, 19, who was arrested for interfering with the duties of a public servant. Why Did They Wait? Sheriff Had Polygamy Informant for 4 Years Sect Children Now Hit With an Outbreak of Chickenpox By MIKE VON FREMD, JAY SHAYLOR, STEVE PETYERAK and SCOTT MICHELS April 10, 2008 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4625830&page=1 Capt. Barry Caver of the Texas Rangers said he advised the ranch's leaders to leave the temple's doors unlocked or provide authorities with a key, but the sect refused. A locksmith was unable to unlock the door and a special tool also failed. Caver said the front doors and every door inside the temple had to be "breached" by a SWAT team. Caver said authorities had saved the inspection of the temple for the last step in the weeklong search of the ranch grounds. "We knew that the temple would be the most senstive issue on the property," Caver said. If there was resistance, "it would be then." A bizarre scene unfolded when the pollice moved towards the compound. "They lined up about 57 people around the walls of the temple... Otherwise they would be in violaton of their beliefs for not defending their temple," Caver said. "Several of them basically sat down or kneeled down and prayed. Some of them were sobbing." "As the SWAT, the breach team, reached the door one of their members decided to resist and he was arrested," the captain said. Caver said they also brought in a team of cadaver dogs to sniff out the possibility of unmarked graves, but none were found. http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/1,5620,695269082,00.html?printView=true Majority of Utahns say removal of FLDS children was justified Copyright 2008 Deseret Morning News By Brian West Deseret News Published: April 10, 2008 In a memorandum filed by FLDS attorneys, they argued that religious freedom rights had been violated when officers entered their sacred temple Saturday night. Attorneys said three men at the ranch were praying when officers "drug them out of the way to gain entry to the temple." "Officers were also observed firing weapons into the woods on the northwest corner of the temple as they entered the temple gates" and made "forcible entry," the memorandum states. The attorneys also wrote that the officers didn't bother to see if children or adults were in the woods when they fired into the area. Police Enter Polygamist Sect's Temple West Texas Compound Is Searched For Signs Of Underage Girl Who Alleged Abuse ELDORADO, Texas, April 6, 2008 (CBS/AP) Randy Mankin, the publisher of the local paper in Eldorado, listened to police scanners and heard the standoff end late Saturday night when the SWAT team entered. "I know they used the jaws of life from the fire department here," Mankin told CBS News, "to help get through the doors." The compound sits down a narrow paved road and behind a hill that shields it almost entirely from view in town. Only the 80-foot-high, white temple can be seen on the horizon. It remained lit throughout the night. link Authorities look for more kids at W. Texas ranch By BILL HANNAStar-Telegram Staff Writer Sun, Apr. 06, 2008 Around 11 p.m., police scanner traffic indicated that authorities had "cleared" the church's temple and were moving to the compound's annex. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/us/10cnd-raid.html?hp By GRETEL C. KOVACH Published: April 11, 2008 When all other efforts to open the temple failed, about 57 men fromRaid on Sect’s Temple Detailed the church stood in a circle around the building and watched as a SWAT team broke down the doors, Captain Caver said. The sect members sunk to their knees in prayer, some sobbing, and one young man rushed to intervene. He was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of interfering with a public servant and has since been released on bond. Inside the three-story temple and its basement authorities found shredded documents, but said it was unclear when they had been destroyed. They also found several beds on the top floor of the temple, where authorities suspect that older men had sex with under-age girls, according to court documents released Wednesday. In one rumpled bed, authorities found a long strand of hair, the affidavit states. In requests for a restraining order, lawyers for the church had said “irreparable injury” would occur if authorities were permitted to search the temple. “Members of the religious denomination occupying the community consider it a desecration of one of their holiest sites for a non-member to enter their temple,” the court documents state. At a hearing on the matter on Wednesday Judge Barbara Walther of State District Court told the lawyers for the church and one of its ordained bishops, Lyle Jeffs, that she had no authority to stop a federal search of the property. Gerald Goldstein, a lawyer for the group, had said in court that he was aware that federal agents were searching the ranch. “It has been under siege in essence for a whole week now,” Mr. Goldstein said in court. %%gunfire http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=%22that+ranger+who+fired+his+gun+was+inciting+to+riot+only+the+men+of+the+ranch+stopped+a+bloodbath%22&d=75340127540030&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=1a6b6e20,ad394538 IN AMERICA, PERSECUTION CAN’T BE DISGUISED. January 10, 2009 – 4:26 am Preface to A Voice of Warning by Parley P Pratt So far, our Gestapo haven’t started killing them in modern times, but that’s just a matter of time and the right opportunity as the men on the Ranch were told by LE as they left the Temple. That Ranger who fired his gun was inciting to riot. Only the men of the Ranch stopped a bloodbath by not accepting the invitation to fight. @@Test scores Arthur: More on Schleicher County test scores, G11 math pass rate is 68%, which isn't much higher than 65% for African American, below state avg for Hispanic (72%) and much lower than 79% for statewide whites. I would imagine given the quality of the teachers and how well behaved and disciplined the FLDS kids were, they would probably test much higher than state average for whites. The test scores are basically pretty dismal for Eldorado. Home schooled kids typically don't have to take the ridiculous state tests, which as far as I'm concerned are ONLY good for comparing fortunate and unfortunate groups of kids, but useless for establishing any minimal expectations or eliminating score gaps which have very little to do with what school kids go to. state grade 11 math 79% white 72% hispanic 65% black, district is 68%, reflects hispanic students probably Arkay: There have been academic tests performed on some children while they were in captivity, more particularly the teenage girls. All of them scored above state average. There have also been physiological exams performed where some of the mothers scored better than the nation average. If that wasn't the case, you'd see it plastered all over mainstream media. They don't want to tell you our children are better educated and more intelligent than mainstream, it doesn't go along with their plan of attack. The closest thing I can recite you to as far as mainstream media was the court record to do with Maryanne Jessop. They briefly mentioned in there that she was "right on target". @@Timeline @@Pregnant Teens There were NO pregnant teens among the girls removed from the ranch, but it was so incorrectly reported in many headlines 4/5/08 http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=540ffaeb-dc67-40dc-8757-4f0aac3388c1 Women, children and pregnant teens removed from Texas FLDS compound Reported by: Brent Hunsaker 4/05 2:33 pm (ABC 4 News) ELDORADO, Texas (ABC 4 News) - Buses from nearby Eldorado, Texas were pressed into service Friday to remove 167 children from the polygamist YFZ (Yearning for Zion) Ranch. According to the local newspaper, The Eldorado Success, 96 boys and 71 girls spent Friday night at the small town’s civic center. %%Voss THERE WAS A GIRL LIKE SARAH IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD ON THE RANCH http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/2008/05/flds-updates-for-52.html CPS Agent Angie Voss, whom a friend of ours says has progressed from 'Professor Umbridge' to 'She Who Must Not Be Named' testified at the hearing that there were under-aged brides in every single household. I have yet to see any evidence that this is true: The bishop's records released Thursday were used by CPS to demonstrate a pattern of abuse justifying the removal of all FLDS children in a hearing two weeks ago. The records indicate that about two-thirds of the ranch's households were polygamous while the others were young couples or traditional nuclear families. So, we have 35 households, yet only 8 'wives' under the age of 18, and 1/3 of the families are young monogamous couples or traditional nuclear families. This is from the Bishop's records that were used, as far as I can tell, at the original hearing, where CPS supervisor Angie Voss testified under oath: "Up to this point in the investigation, there are over 20 girls in the investigation who have conceived or given birth at the age of 16 or 17," Voss says. "What I'm telling you is that there is a culture of young girls being pregnant by old men." So there was a girl like that in all 19 residences on the ranch? "Yes, sir, there was," Voss says. GIRLS PREGNANT FROM 13, 5 GIRLS NAMED SARAH Greencastle, Indiana http://www.bannergraphic.com/blogs/maribethward/entry/17860/ What does the state do with more than 400 children? Posted Saturday, April 19, 2008, at 4:39 PM Meanwhile Angie Voss, a child protection supervisor told authorities that the girls believe there was no age too young to be married and they wanted to have as many babies as they could. Voss also testified the girls from the compound had gotten pregnant when they were as young as 13. In interviewing 20 women 17 or younger at the ranch, investigators learned that there were five named Sarah -- and one of them, like the caller, was 16 and had a baby, although her name was not Sarah Jessop Barlow. The women told investigators they did not know where that Sarah was. It remains unclear whether the 16-year-old who made the calls has been located by authorities @@TXBluesman One of the most active and virulent anti-flds bloggers. Some bloggers thought he might be Sherrif Doran, claims to be based out of Dallas. notes: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfthx7q4_2051g22gt8hq http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/04/what-happened-at-coliseum.htm At 12:06 PM, Truth speaks volumes said... Hey bluesman! I got some sworn affidavits from some former associates of yours who, by what they told me, obviously dislike you in a big way. What do you say we publish a few of their oaths against you detailing some of your activities years back? I'm not even interested in checking the validity of their comments. They sounded so passionate about the true nature of your character and conduct, that they convinced me. Now that is precisely how childish and gullible you sound when you fall for propaganda spewed out by one side of the issue. Ever met these people? Been to their homes? Seen their children? Watched them work? Of course not. Your mind is to narrow to withstand the conflict of seeing reality and comparing it with what you want to believe. And that is what makes you a disriminatory bigot. At 12:30 PM, Jack said... Wow! It's getting nasty here. Can we stop attacking each other? I can't see where that is very helpful. Txbluesman is a lawyer who mostly quotes the law. (or at least his opinion of how a judge would rule) I disagree with him on the issue of illegal search and siezure but we will have to wait for that to run through the courts. The FLDS are represented by a major Utah law firm and appear to be preparing a suit to be filed against the FORGED DOCUMENTS? TxBluesMan said... Anon 10:43, http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:I0kv5ojwjawJ:gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/yfz-kids-abused-and-neglected-under-cps.html+%22Lee+Roy+Jessop%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us from published reports and the published Property Transfer, there is evidence that a two birth certificates were found showing one individual, one father, but two different mothers. Once it was established that there were possible forged documents, the court clearly had the right to discount all presented documents and require DNA ...until they have some sort of further evidence, it would be within the judge's discretion not to accept the documents. http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/05/more-on-pamela-jessop.htm TxBluesMan said... I don't guess the fact that she was 15 when she was impregnated the first time matters? By Pamela's own admission, Jackson Jessop, who is over 3 years older than her, committed Sexual Assault of a Child when he impregnated her at the age of 15. @@Vagina mafia http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4164416.ece June 22, 2008 Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists? in individualistic, libertarian Texas there is anger about the raid. “They went in with a search warrant wide enough to turn an 18-wheeler round in.” He says there may have been “bad apples” at the ranch, but that couldn’t justify the mass seizure. He also mutters about the “vagina mafia” – feminists out to attack the ranch’s patriarchal structure. Men, he believes, are okay. “Everybody I met on Mars was a pretty nice guy and I have never been to Venus.” @@Uncles ALL WOMEN ARE "MOTHER", ALL MEN ARE "UNCLES" http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-24-polygamist-retreat_N.htm Texas court: State can take sect children to foster homes Posted 4/24/2008 A complicating factor is the sect's tangled web of family bonds. State social workers have said that members have offered different names and ages, and that the children refer to all of their fathers' wives as their "mothers" and to all men in the community as "uncles." DNA tests are underway to sort out the connections. @@Voss, Angie General background: (from CPS email response) 9/2008 - starting date 9/29/1997 - office she is based in 622 South Oakes, San Angelo, TX 76903 (325) 657-8954 - age 36 - marital status The employee has elected to not to disclose. - education Bachelor degree in Psychology/Sociology and a Master in Psychology/Counseling She is on the Board of Directors of the Children’s Advocacy Group of Tom Green County. (Note the name of the child in the article Voice for a Child.) %%Board of directors http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=pol&thread=371 Boldwin ID: 443322717 Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 23:58 'Investigator'...or Torquemada in black pantsuit, depending on your POV, Angie Voss, the woman heading the state of Texas kidnapping efforts, also sits on the board of directors of 'Children's Advocacy Center of Tom Green County' which is apparently receiving a fundraising windfall from all the FLDS publicity. The Children's Advocacy Center of Tom Green County has received hundreds of calls asking the same question over and over, "How can I help?"...the process is always costly both in terms of money and personnel...Sponsor me now...Click to provide financial assistance to the CAC Members of the board, let's all give a round of applause to a real rainmaker. Conflict of interest much? wouldn't have minded if they proscuted that and set monitoring in place to prevent it in the future. In fact that is my recommendation. Of those girls, 31 either have children or are pregnant - Azar, official CPS apologist The truth of that remains to be seen. Presently their ages are complete guesswork since the judge and the CPS thru out birth certificate evidence without even looking at it and have mostly been going on Angie Voss's carnival guestimates instead. %%Critic http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ Angie Voss is interesting. She’s afraid of men, even when they are polite and respectful, and she thinks that it is “abuse” to be taught that marrying young and having children is a blessing. She is also on the Board of Directors of the Children’s Advocacy Group of Tom Green County. (Note the name of the child in the article Voice for a Child.) Of course, I believe that Rozita is actually Sarah. Comment by Jerri_Lynn_Ward — 4/18/2008 @ 10:12 am DHM, I’m just now getting to the report (and let’s keep in mind that this is not the testimony, buy a summary) My earlier comment was based on a TV report from the hearing. So, there’s this: VOSS: EVERY RESIDENCE HAD A SARAH http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ “Up to this point in the investigation, there are over 20 girls in the investigation who have conceived or given birth at the age of 16 or 17,” Voss says. “What I’m telling you is that there is a culture of young girls being pregnant by old men.” http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ So there was a girl like that in all 19 residences on the ranch? “Yes, sir, there was,” Voss says. Comment by Pablo — 4/19/2008 @ 12:20 am http://patterico.com/2008/04/17/day-1-flds-child-custody-testimony/ And being pregnant and giving birth at the age of 16 or 17 is not evidence of a crime in the state of Texas. If she has evidence that these girls got pregnant before they were 16, why didn’t she say so in court? And then we have the discrepancy between this testimony and the evidence she submitted. She only presented the medical records of ten girls between the ages of 16 and 19. Again- nobody below the legal age to marry in Texas. Of those ten girls, only five of them were pregnant or had given birth. One of them, according to an account at Brooke Adams’ Polygamy Files blog (Salt Lake Tribune) is a girl married to a 17 year old male. That leaves four girls over the age of 16 who are pregnant or have had a child that might have been impregnated by an adult male. Not sixty. She’s got a 19 year old in that listing- that’s an adult. That’s the case she presented in court. What she says to the press is different, but I don’t think I can agree that these people should lose their kids based on what Voss says to the press, because she’s clearly grossly over-stated her case to the press. As you read that summary, note how often she and the state psychiatrist indicate that the *beliefs* of this group are abusive, even though their beliefs are compatible with the law in Texas. Even though Texas permits parental sanctioned marriage at 16, CPS is saying that unless the parents (among other things) say that girls should never marry before 18, they can’t have their kids back. That’s bizarre. As for her testimony that there is a girl like that in every household, either she or one of the FLDS women is lying. One of the women is in her twenties, was married at 20, and is in a monogamous relationship. That’s also in the testimony for the second day. Comment by DeputyHeadmistress — 4/19/2008 @ 1:39 am http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/collectivist-child-abuse.html This is the kind of horrifying, Soviet-style psychological torture regularly perpetrated by the child "welfare" system in Texas. Oh, but according to the testimony of Commissarina Angie Voss of the Texas DFPS, what is really scary is the sight of polite, cooperative, well-behaved children living in a small, insular, crowded, but peaceful religious community: "Angie Voss testified she was escorted onto the YFZ Ranch in nearby Eldorado the night of April 3 by law enforcement officers. She was accompanied by a dozen case workers investigating complaints initially lodged by a 16-year-old girl named Sarah.... Voss said investigators hoped to find her among what they believed were about 150 people on the ranch. In reality, there were more than 600 people there. The supervisor testified that two men willingly let them inside after they had passed what she described as a guard tower several stories high with stairs leading to the top. She said there were men stationed at the tower. She said she asked if there were any girls named Sarah living at the ranch. `They shook their heads and said there were no Sarahs living at the ranch,' Voss said.... She said the girls filed in and appeared polite and respectful, but she was nevertheless concerned. `It was a very scary environment — intimidating. I was afraid. I saw men all over. It felt like the schoolhouse was surrounded,' she said, `It was a fearful kind of environment.' Six hours after being on the ranch and talking to a variety of girls, Voss said the decision was made to remove some of the children from the complex." The situation was "scary" in what way? Well, y'see, there was this palpable sense of incipient violence hanging in the air like the scent of an impending thunderstorm: "`I heard a report that a tank was coming on the property. Things were getting more scary to me. It was a situation of a very huge magnitude with so many law enforcement officers around,' she testified. The case workers wanted to interview the children in an environment that didn't seem `so scary and dangerous.'" Which is to say: The situation was "scary" because of the presence of the paramilitary Berserkers who had been sent to help Voss and her comrades kidnap the kids! %%Reference REBECCA MUSSER HELP DECISION TO RAID RANCH http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/253408 it is revealed that a witness from the Warren Jeff trial which resulted in his conviction, of two counts of rape as an accomplice for forcing young girls to marry older men at his FLDS's compounds, was pivotal in convincing authorities to raid the YFZ Ranch. Warren Jeff was the leader, the "prophet" of the YFZ Ranch compound before his conviction in 2007 and is awaiting trial in Arizona on similar charges. Voss revealed she had consulted with a former FLDS member, named Rebecca Musser, as well as seeking professional opinion of psychiatrist Bruce Perry, a well-known expert on cults. "I consulted child psychologists and other persons who are much more educated and aware of their beliefs than I am," said Voss, referring to Musser and Perry. "They (FLDS faithful) get direction from Warren Jeffs and whatever he says, they will do." Musser was married to Jeffs' father, Rulon Jeffs, when she was a teenager and he was an elderly man. During the Warren Jeffs trial, Musser testified that Jeffs told her he would "take me down" if she caused problems for the FLDS Church. Her testimony is credited with helping convict Jeffs. Musser is the older sister of Elissa Wall, who was the key witness in the Waren Jeff trial after speaking up to authorities about being forced to marry when she was 14. Musser also testified in the Warren Jeff trial. %%Testimony CPS says sexual abuse encouraged at Texas polygamist ranch at hearing By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News kmbrooks@dallasnews.com 07:08 AM CDT on Friday, April 18, 2008 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/dmn/stories/041808dntexCPShearings.3bd16d8.html Child Protective Services supervisor Angie Voss, who testified for several hours during a marathon child custody hearing in San Angelo. "The boy children, the girl children, the male adults, the female adults, this is their belief." That, Ms. Voss said, was the main reason CPS officials went to the ranch operated by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints looking for one girl and emerged with an order to remove all children. During her testimony, Ms. Voss said she didn't think the children should return to the ranch. "I'm very concerned about the overall mind-set that children are born and grown and that the boys become perpetrators and the girls become victims of sexual abuse," she said. "I believe it is not safe for any child to return to the ranch because the adults that I have spoken with who live on the ranch have expressed to me their belief that they aren't doing anything harmful to their children and that this practice of children being united and having children is part of their overall culture or belief system She said one girl said she hadn't seen her mother in two years and told her that Merrill Jessop, the ranch leader, said it was "none of her business" where her mother was. She also said that children reported that they were happy to be at the ranch and that some of them had come from Arizona and Utah, not always with their parents. Among the complicating factors in Ms. Voss' investigation has been determining which children belonged to which parents – tangles that still have yet to be worked out. "If a father fell out of favor in some way, his wives would be reassigned to another man and he would become their father, so the children moved to different houses," she said. The children were "not at all upset by that," Ms. Voss said %%LGBT ANTI-SEMITE(?) COMMENTS ON VOSS WARNING - FOLLOWING OPINION MAY BE INFLAMMATORY OR OUTRIGHT INCORRECT: http://jesuslordofall.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/feeding-frenzy/ Feeding Frenzy by Dr. Diego Rodriguez Consider the lesbian Jjjess (Jjjish Genealogy in Argentina, http://www.jewishgenealogy.com.ar/surnames_ev.html) Angie Voss, a supervisor at Child Protective Services (DNA tests on Texas sect children, BBC, April 19, 2008 ) in Texas. She was in charge of getting the grab operation going. In the old days, they would have just burnt down the competition. But that sort of thing gave the government a really, really bad name. (Chaos at polygamy custody hearing, BBC, April18, 2008 ) So they’ve learned. Why turn those little children into ashes, when Jewish pimps and pornographers could turn their bodies and pictures into millions? After the grab, the Jjjs got a court hearing going. Some fair proceeding? Oh, no. Just a farce: “The court hearing, which continues Friday morning, disintegrated into farce early Thursday, as hundreds of lawyers who descended on San Angelo for the proceedings shouted objections or queued up to cross-examine witnesses.” (Michelle Roberts, Investigator says girls pregnant in polygamist sect, Associated Press, April 18, 2008, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_re_us/polygamist_retreat;_ylt=AjIA96w_Pvomx5NCiBhVhTWs0NUE)(emphasis added) What a serious happening! Girls get pregnant. When they could be posing for Joe Francis. Hundreds of lawyers have descended on San Angelo. What wording! Usually, vultures descend on road kill. “The state wants to keep the children in its custody, and likely move them to foster homes while officials continue investigating abuse allegations” (id.) How long could an investigation like this take? When Joe Francis got Ashley Dupre, he needed to her on his porno bus for a full week of filming. And then there are 416 children (id.) to go through. That’s quite a workload. Naturally, this film shoot would be difficult if the mothers were around. So the children are being seperated from their mothers now. Announced Darrell Azar, a spokesman for Child Protective Services. (MICHELLE ROBERTS, Moms and young children from Texas ranch to be parted, AP, April 20, 2008 ) Azar is, of course, a Sephardic Jjjish surname. (Sephardic Surnames from a number of Jjjish Sephardic sources, http://www.sephardicgen.com/names.htm) But that’s how these people are: “Ashley Dupre is topless and her photos has now been placed online and on the streets of Gotham thanks to the New York Post.” (Angela Carson, Ashley Dupre Topless Photos: Emperor’s Club VIP Kristen Cashes In, The National Ledger, Mar 14, 2008 ) The Post being owned by prominent Jjjish (David Irving, Rupert Murdoch’s Jjjish origins: a matter of controversy, Action Report, May 25, 2002, sourced from http://www.jjjwatch.com/jjj-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jjj-part1.html) publisher Rupert Murdoch. The children had been living on the Yearning for Zion ranch. That yearning is being satisfied in full measure right now. On camera. The only open question is, Where will the pictures of the unlucky 416 show up first? AUTHOR: Rodriguez SUGGESTION SHARES FEAR OF MEN http://johnburkessociety.blogspot.com/2008/04/cps-definition-of-abuse-teaching.html CPS Voss, a Waco vet, escalated the raid. Showed typical lesbian fear of men... http://www.truthnews.us/?p=2170 Child Kidnapping Services ProLibertate April 19, 2008 the testimony of Commissarina Angie Voss of the Texas DFPS, what is really scary is the sight of polite, cooperative, well-behaved children living in a small, insular, crowded, but peaceful religious community The situation was "scary" in what way? Well, y’see, there was this palpable sense of incipient violence hanging in the air like the scent of an impending thunderstorm: "`I heard a report that a tank was coming on the property. Things were getting more scary to me. It was a situation of a very huge magnitude with so many law enforcement officers around,’ she testified. The case workers wanted to interview the children in an environment that didn’t seem `so scary and dangerous.’" Which is to say: The situation was "scary" because of the presence of the paramilitary Berserkers who had been sent to help Voss and her comrades kidnap the kids! So we’re back to the old Bastiat formula for totalitarian government intervention — creating the "poison" and the "antidote" in the same laboratory. Or, if you will, leaving the arsonists in charge of the fire department — or the abusers in charge of the child "protection" apparatus Rumors on blogs: Tribune Blogs -- Polygamy Files: The Tribune's blog on the plural life - 4:49pmHow do we know Angie Voss isn't married or has children? If she is married, it's to another woman. She's a lesbian, and that relationship doesn't produce ... blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/10/attorneys-to-get-financial-help.htm At 7:27 PM, marrie said... Ztg, I have No idea if angie voss is married or has children, do you? She is 36, how do you know she isnt married with 4 or 5 kids? At 7:48 PM, ztgstmv said... This is how I know. She's too occupied. Being the glue between the supposedly neutral CASA and the pseudo child-police department AKA the CPS, takes all of Angie Voss' time, no doubt. At 8:16 PM, Me said... How do we know Angie Voss isn't married or has children? If she is married, it's to another woman. She's a lesbian, and that relationship doesn't produce children. Notice it takes that type of person to feel good about ripping children away from their mothers. They can't even relate to a mother's feelings, let alone a child's. At 12:12 PM, Rubytuesday said... By the way ztg,Judge Barbara Walther is a republican. content.usatoday.com/community/utils/idmap/29008791.story Angie Voss is also a republican. http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2008/06/27/commissioner_who_oversees_cps.html At 5:06 PM, ztgstmv said... ruby, "liberal" as in gay Voss liberal. @@Waco %%Eldorado http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1962310 Is Eldorado the Next Waco, Texas? Some Believe Polygamist Warren Jeffs Is Hiding in Texas Town By MIKE VON FREMD and GINA SUNSERI May 15, 2006 {{citeweb|url=http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1962310| publisher=ABC News Good Morning America |date=2006=05-15 |accessdate=2009-08-24}} %%General Raid on Polygamist Ranch Was Doomed to Fail, Critics Say By Michelle Roberts Associated Press Sunday, June 1, 2008; Page A05 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/31/AR2008053101863.html an ill-fated 1992 brush with another religious sect -- which led to the fiery deaths of 21 children at the Branch Davidian compound near Waco -- still lingers on the agency's collective conscience http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd368.htm FLDS RAID AND THE NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY By: Devvy June 13, 2008 © 2008 - NewsWithViews.com Is this 1700 acre ranch in the path of the NAFTA Super highway to Hell? As the legal battles continue to play out, and I hope some of these Americans sue the pants off the State of Texas, one has to ask the question: Why in April, 2008? Based on a phone call from someone they haven't even verified exists to this day? Remember WACO? Only a few days before the initial gassing and burning of almost 100 human beings by the feds, David Koresch was in town. He could have been picked up at any time. Instead, we had the ATF pull off one of the most deadly and stupid jock raids this country has ever seen - for NO legitimate reason: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/17/polygamy.custody/index.html Thu April 17, 2008 Sect mothers head to court for custody battle Responding to claims the raid was heavy-handed, Abbott said authorities conducted the raid the way they did because they were walking on to a compound and wanted to "avoid another Waco, [David] Koresh-type situation." Abbott was referring to the controversial 1993 raid on the Branch Davidian compound that killed 74 people, many of them children. {{citeweb|url=http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/17/polygamy.custody/index.html publisher=CNN|date=2008-04-17|accessdate=2009-08-24}} %%feminist http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/default.cfm?Action=ReleaseDetail&ID=21187 CPS investigator Angie Voss testified with a like outsider criticism regarding the training the girls receive: “Having children is what they were supposed to do.” Has Ms. Voss ever heard of the “Middletown Studies” of 1924? Sociologists Robert and Helen Lynd performed a study on an average American town to see what values and attitudes were being held at that time. Women in 1924, by and large, worked at home as housewives, and the Lynds reported that having children was considered a "moral obligation.” The women also dressed and wore their hair more in keeping with the women at Yearning For Zion. So have we strayed so far from the moral standards of 1924 that we now criticize and even condemn a people who still hold to those same values today? This belief regarding bearing children that was held in 1924, and is still held by those at the Yearning For Zion community, has a basis that afforded this nation its founding government—the Bible—which states, “But women will be preserved through the bearing of children.” And in the beginning, Adam was told to be fruitful and multiply. Again, Ms. Voss reveals moreso the biased error and frequent atrocities of family-unfriendly CPS. Also, Voss’s ill and prejudiced attitude regarding men is rather obvious. As with our failing public school system that is 75 percent women and, as stated in a recent report highlighted by former Secretary of State Colin Powell, is “obsolete” and “in a state of crisis,” CPS is stacked with feminists. Ms. Voss stated, revealing her biased feminism, "I believe that the boys are groomed to be perpetrators." Voss disparagingly describes young men who desire to be husbands as perpetrators. She condemns the older men, she condemns the young—is there any male left she does not despise? Ms. Voss further evidenced this prejudicial attitude toward men and the entire Yearning For Zion community that, most certainly to her disdain, is led completely by men. There is no doubt that any feminist is going to despise any group that is patriarchal in nature and follows the Bible’s order that the man is the head of the home and the woman is not to exercise the authority of a man. Those men will automatically be in Voss’s sights, and so they have been. You can hear her feminist prejudice in her description of entering the ranch: “I was concerned. It was a scary and intimidating environment. I was afraid. I saw men all over." She went on to describe that she saw men in a guard tower looking down on them (the attitude of any feminist concerning men) as they entered the ranch, and men escorted the women to the schoolhouse for the interviews. So what is so wrong when men with responsible concern accompany the women during the threatening intrusion by CPS? Furthermore, in like reaction, any feminist is going to despise women who choose to maintain the traditional appearance of, and take their place in the traditional role of, a woman that was the standard of this nation until 1920. Voss will therefore despise these women, the men, and their traditional families, and will look for and justify any means possible whereby she can destroy them and take their children, gaining great personal satisfaction. In like manner, in a CBS interview, Marci Hamilton, professor at Cardoza School of Law, described Yearning For Zion: “It operates on a patriarchal system, so that men are in charge, women are subservient, and the children are beneath the women.” It is truly astounding that this nation has come to the place where a patriarchal system that is the foundation of the Bible, the foundation of the church, and the foundation of this nation, is now spoken of with contempt as though it is wrong Gary Naler, author of “The Curse of 1920: The Degradation of Our Nation in the Last 100 Years,” can be reached at gary@thecurseof1920.com, phone: 573-729-5439. For more information, go to www.thecurseof1920.com or www.expertclick.com, search Naler. @@Wait Why would authorities wait 5 days before going to ranch to save a girl in imminent danger of harm? Defense attorney Kent Schaffer, who represents Wendell Nielsen, pointed out officers waited five days before going to the ranch to search for a victim they believed was being beaten, battered and threatened with death. src: [http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_12378967 FLDS sect's lawyers challenge ranch search warrant Polygamy By Brooke AdamsThe Salt Lake Tribune 05/15/2009 ] @@Wall, Theresa Blackmore http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/15/sect.mothers/#cnnSTCText Tue April 15, 2008 State now a danger to children, sect's mothers say Teressa Wall Blackmore, who left an FLDS community in Canada two years ago, said the sect's women are indoctrinated not to see the problems in its lifestyle. "They believe that, you know, that they aren't doing anything wrong, because that's how they grew up," she said on CNN's "Larry King Live." @@Walther, Barbara District Court Judge who approved search warrant and mass removal of children on flimsy to non existent evidence of abuse and danger to children. She was on site the next morning after the initial visit to order handing over all of the children, and taking first girls into protective custody. %%Abused disgression Texas Supreme Court Nixes Removal of Children From Polygamists' Ranch John Council Texas Lawyer May 30, 2008 http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202421803660 "The 3rd Court of Appeals ruled last week in two separate mandamus opinions that Walther abused her discretion in allowing CPS to remove the children of some mothers." %%Critics http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/collectivist-child-abuse.html She did not issue an order to the DFPS commanding them to produce "Sarah," with an inflexible and immediate deadline to do so. Walther is the judge who issued an extravagantly overbroad warrant on the basis of "Sarah's" alleged report. Today she admitted into evidence documents seized in that raid without confirming that there was a legal basis for the warrant. By relieving the DFPS of the responsibility to produce the alleged witness that was the basis of that report, Walther has graduated from commonplace offenses against the Constitution to participation in a criminal conspiracy -- assuming, as I think by now we should, that "Sarah" doesn't exist. Bad Cop News critical of Walthers http://www.uslaw.com/law_blogs/Bad+Cop+News?blog=1658 http://www.uslaw.com/library/Criminal_Law/Disgraced_San_Angelo_Texas_Judge_Barbara_Walther_Under_Police_Guard_Un.php?item=167857 Criminal law: bad cop news Disgraced San Angelo Texas Judge Barbara Walther Under Police Guard After Unlawfully Removing 440+ Children From Their Homes SAN ANGELO, TEXAS - Texas police have been standing guard outside the home of the Texas judge who ordered the removal of all the FLDS children from the YFZ Ranch... http://www.uslaw.com/law_blogs/?item=157219 Crazed Texas District Judge Barbara Walther Refuses To Sign Order Returning Children Illegally Snatched By Police And State Agents To Their Parents SAN ANGELO, TEXAS ? A Texas judge refused on Friday to sign an agreement that would have paved the way for the first large batch of children taken from a polygamist sect’s ranch to return to their parents, dashing hopes raised by a Supreme Court ruling in the case... %%JOKE When a comparison was later made to an hypothetical raid on the Vatican, Walther joked that she knows she has no jurisdiction in Italy. "I can't even get an arrest warrant issued in Arizona," she said. http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/0,5223,695269124,00.html @@Washer Man status: hero The "washer man" had volunteered for the disaster crew from the Baptist Church. He turned on the pump that drained the washer bins into the sewers for the boys to watch. Musser: A man from the Baptist church who had joined the "disaster crew" noticed so many boys intrigued by this complex and noisy set up that he would turn on the pumps whenever he recognized Marie's boys coming by. @@welfare http://iperceive.net/texas-flds-ad-litem-expect-pissed-off-flds-teens-sassing-the-judge/ 13. No FLDS in Texas have ever applied for welfare. This myth was debunked during a recent meeting of the Texas Senate Finance Committee. The FLDS appear to have a unique, complete economic system that interacts with the outside community but avoids over-reliance on it. It’s hard for outsiders to imagine it working, but somehow it does. @@YFZ ranch %%surrounding http://www.nbc10.com/family/15803481/detail.html Standoff With Polygamist Sect Eases 200 Women, Children Removed From Polygamist Compound Earlier POSTED: 6:24 pm EDT April 5, 2008 The compound sits down a narrow paved road and behind a hill that shields it almost entirely from view in town. Only the 80-foot-high, gleaming white temple can be seen on the horizon. Authorities blocked access to the gate, keeping onlookers miles away It is surrounded by dusty, wind-swept land where sheep are raised and mohair produced. @@You're 18 CHILD SEX IN SECT'S TEMPLE IS SUSPECTED http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA041008.01A.polygamistfolo.390e0a9.html Web Posted: 04/10/2008 12:57 AM CDT Lisa Sandberg Express-News SAN ANGELO — Authorities suspect adult men belonging to a West Texas polygamist sect used beds inside their sacred temple to have sex with underage girls, court records released Wednesday indicate. When an investigator asked one girl her age, the affidavit states, the girl turned to her husband, Lee Roy Jessop, who said, "You are 18." The girl then told the investigator that she was the fourth wife of Jessop, 33, and that "he was still married to the other three wives" in the eyes of the sect. (in 2nd search aff) Tribune Blogs -- Polygamy Files: The Tribune's blog on the plural lifeApr 15, 2008 ... A female child having the appearance of a 16 year old child was directed to give her age as 18 by Lee Roy Jessop. This child has a 10 month ... blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/2008/04/women-speak.htm Girl, 16, Allegedly Had Sex with Adult Man at the Polygamist Compound By Andrew Duncan 11:32, April 10th 2008 eNews 2.0 All Rights Reserved It appears that the girls were advised to keep their real age secret. During the investigations, a girl, who wasn’t accustomed to talk to strangers because she has lived almost all her life in the religious retreat, asked her husband, Lee Roy Jessop, about her age. Then, she said she was 18. She added that Jessop had other three wives and that “he was still married to the other three wives.” TxBluesMan said... Anon 10:43, http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:I0kv5ojwjawJ:gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2008/05/yfz-kids-abused-and-neglected-under-cps.html+%22Lee+Roy+Jessop%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us This is supported by other evidence, such as the search warrant affidavit, where Lee Roy Jessop’s wife gave a date of birth that indicated that her first child was conceived at age 15 or 16. @@Zion Yearning for Zion Sect saw Texas ranch as a haven By TRISH CHOATE, Standard-Times Washington Bureau Sunday, May 25, 2008 http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/may/25/yearning-for-zion/ with members trying to stay true to Smith's original vision. "This particular group of Mormons, they're very fundamentalist in their viewpoint," said W. John Walsh, religious scholar and a member of the mainstream Mormon church. "They're trying to keep to the 19th-century Mormonism." A short story in the Bible might have inspired them to build the compound, Walsh said. In the story, a prophet named Enoch built a city so righteous, its residents ascended to heaven. The city was called Zion