Overrepresentation
A flip side of affirmative action for under-represented groups is
what to do about minorities which are over-represented, and what to
do about significate majority groups that may be under-represented on
campuses. I've put all of the lists together here so that people can
find them. I have found that religion is just as great or a greater
factor for over- and under- representation as race.
Contents
Arthur Hu's Race / Religion Rankings
Socio-Ecnonomic Rankings (Poverty)
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Group Families in Poverty %
Japanese 3.4
Filipino 5.2
Melanesian 6.5
White 7.0
NHwhite 7.0
AsIndian 7.2
US 10.0
Thai 10.8
Chinese 11.1
Asian 11.4
AsPI 11.6
Guamanian 12.3
Hawaiian 12.7
Micronesian 14.4
Korean 14.7
PacIs 15.0
Polynesian 15.3
OtherAs 15.6
Other PI 18.7
Tongan 20.6
Foreign-born (total) 22.2%
Hispanic 22.3
Vietnam 23.8
Samoan 24.5
Black 26.3
NatAm 27.0
Laotian 32.2
Foreign-born arriving after '90 33.3%
Educational Rankings:
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Gay
Asian Indian
Jewish
Chinese
Asian
White
Hispanic
Black
Political Rankings
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Athletic Rankings
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Business Rankings
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@@Chinese
@@Indian
Asians vs Jews vs Chinese vs. Indians
If we set Jewish representation at 1.0, the Chinese are
better in some numbers, but only the Asian Indians are consistently
better in almost every categor.
Summary J=Jewish C=Chinese JP=Japanese I=Indian E=European-Am
K=Korean A=Asian
Rank by Chinese
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Weyl Academic J1.00 C 3.23 JP-1.55 K 4.16 I-?.?? E-6.39
Westinghouse 93 J1.00 C 3.08 JP-1.21 I 1.69 E-23.0 A 1.17
Forbes HiTech 97 J1.00 C 1.14 I 1.34
Ivy League J1.00 C 1.10 E-10.0 A-1.75
Toronto Fail J1.00 C 1.08 JP ?.?? K-1.15 I E-1.92
----------- Chinese better --------------------------------------
House Inc J1.00 I 2.10 E-1.17 A 1.00
----------- Chinese worse ---------------------------------------
Toronto Hi grade J1.00 C-1.02 JP ?.?? K ?.?? I-?.?? E-1.61
IQ J1.00 C-1.05 JP-1.05 E-1.15 A-1.10
SAT Combined J1.00 I 1.00 E-1.10 A-1.09
4 Yr College J1.00 C-1.14 I 1.23 E-2.20 A-1.23
USA Today Coll. J1.00 C-1.47 JP-1.47 I 3.98 E-7.00 A-1.27
Weyl Occupation J1.00 C-1.80 JP-1.24 K-?.?? I-?.?? E-4.88
Dropout J1.00 C-3.28 JP-1.56 I-1.91 E-2.76
ACM Turing J1.00 I 3.0 A-12.0
'97 Time 25 J1.00 A-14.0
Rank by Indian
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USA Today Coll. J1.00 C-1.47 JP-1.47 I 3.98 E-7.00 A-1.27
ACM Turing J1.00 I 3.0 A-12.0
House Income J1.00 I 2.10 E-1.17 A 1.00
Westinghouse 93 J1.00 C 3.08 JP-1.21 I 1.69 E-23.0 A 1.17
Forbes HiTech 97 J1.00 C 1.14 I 1.34
4 Yr College J1.00 C-1.14 I 1.23 E-2.20 A-1.23
SAT Combined J1.00 I 1.00 E-1.10 A-1.09
-------------- Worse than Jews ------------------------------------
Dropout J1.00 C-3.28 JP-1.56 I-1.91 E-2.76
Rankings without Jews
EE Times Survey W1.00 C10.7 I12.00
* Asians are better only at the Westinghouse contest, are
generally slightly worse overall, but better than most whites.
* Chinese are better at only about half the comparisons
* Indians are better in every comparison for which there is
a statistic except for high school dropout rate
@@Bee (Spelling, Geography)
DARK SIDE OF HOMESCHOOLER BEE CHAMPS?
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http://detnews.com/2002/schools/0204/12/a02-460478.htm
Tuesday, April 9, 2002
The Detroit News.
By Jessica Wehrman / Scripps Howard News Service
"with the trend of home-schooled champs has come muted criticisms from those who say
home-schooled students have the advantage because they can spend more
time studying spelling during their school days. "
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NATIONAL 'BEES' BUZZ WITH HOME SCHOOLERS
Vaishali Honawar
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20020521-81829932.htm
geography bee.... Four home schoolers finished among the top 10, and
Jason Ferguson of Dallas came in third. The percentage of home
schoolers in the contests is disproportionately high. Last year, the
U.S. Department of Education estimated that 850,000 children, or 1.7
percent, were educated at home .... 21.8 [12.8X] percent of the
participants in the geography bee this year are home schooled, ...
10.9 percent in the spelling bee [6.4x].
@@Cabinet
JEWS#1, WHITE MALES BARELY = POP ON CLINTON CABINET
\doc\96\08\clindivr.wk1 Clinton Cabinet Diversity
Analysis by Arthur Hu
Sources: "WASPs losing grip on Cabinet as Clinton extends diversity"
Seattle Times Dec 21, 1996 New Cabinet a Picture of U.S An AP News
Analysis President Completes Second-Term Team By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 21 1996; Page A01 The
Washington Post
Clinton 1997 Cabinet Diversity Ranking
2 14.3% 2.0% 7.14 jews
3 21.4% 12.0% 1.79 blacks (-1)
7 50.0% 35.0% 1.43 white non-hispanic men
10 71.4% 50.0% 1.43 men
1 7.1% 5.0% 1.43 hispanic male
--------- Over Represented ---------------------------
4 28.6% 28.0% 1.02 catholics
10 71.4% 72.0% -1.01 white
2 14.3% 15.0% -1.05 white male protestants
1 7.1% 10.1% -1.41 hispanic (-1)
4 28.6% 50.0% -1.75 women (+1)
0 0.0% 3.0% 0.00 asian (1 would be 2.38)
Jews (7.1) and Blacks (1.8) and white non-Hispanic men (1.43) are
over-represented, but whites are only equal to population when they are
better qualified (-1.01). Hispanics are also close to parity. Asians would be
over-represented if they had even one, but would be "correct" averaged over
two terms if they had one in either term.
This cabinet still conforms to the rule that Catholics are 28% of
everything, no matter what you look at.
@@Catholic
Catholics are dead average, 26%-32% of EVERYTHING. They appear to be
the only ethnic / religious category that is neither greatly over or
under-represented, regardless of field.
Freshman Hi College 1.24
Navy Top Chaplain 1.22
Clinton 1996 Cabinet 1.02*
1996 Voted for Clinton 1.00
Ivy League 1.00
Abortion 1.00*
Took SAT 1990 -1.05
Fortune 1986 CEO -1.47
@@Ceo
doc\94\11\ceorelig.wk1
Fortune survey of CEO by religion
Fortune 4-28-86
Rank by CEO
Presbyterian 8.80
Episcopalian 8.80
Congregational 6.60
Jewish 3.80
Methodist 0.84
None 0.76
Lutheran 0.75
Roman Catholic 0.68
Other 0.27
Baptist 0.18
@@Chaplain
"LOW CHURCH" EVANGELICALS CLAIM BIAS IN NAVY CHAPLAIN CORPS
\clip\98\15\chaplain.txt The Seattle Times Company Friday, October
16, 1998 Navy chaplain corps biased, evangelical says by Tom Bowman
The Baltimore Sun "claiming that promotions and choice jobs in the
corps are reserved for Catholics and mainline Protestants at the
expense of "low-church" Protestants, such as Baptists and
fundamentalist faiths."
Rank by Top Job Chaplain Rate
Jobs % Pers Rate
Total 17 100
HProt 8 47.1 15 3.14
Cath 5 29.4 24 1.22
LProt 4 23.5 41 -1.74
@College
Note that catholics again are "average" in everything. Low rates of
evangelicals are also found in selective universities and among CEOs
of large corporations. Their SAT scores are also relatively low
compared to other whites. (Arthur Hu)
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SAT SHOWS JEWS, HINDU, LIBERAL CHRISTIANS HAVE BEST SAT SCORES
dOC\DOC921\RELIG90.WK1 - religion ranked by race and SAT score
Source: Unpublished numbers, College Board, 1990
SAT-Comb 95/90* W1.0 B-1.27 H-1.18 A1.01 J*1.10 I*1.10 *
Note that Asians overall scored only slightly better than whites
overall when both math and verbals are counted. Asians were outscored
by Episcopals, Presbyterians, Black Unitarians, Jews and Hindus. Only
White Unitarians and Quakers outscored Jews.
Rank by test score - all and Asian
Race - Wh-white Af-Black As-Asian Al-All Races
Wh Judaism 25,600 1030 * Jewish Avg
As Hindu 4138 1029 * Asian Indian
Af Unitarian 64 966 * Top Black group
Al Episcopal 22,109 957 * Episcopal
Al Presbyterian 37,353 955 * Presbyterian
As Total 70739 938 * Asian Avg
Wh Total 688,933 934 * White Avg
Race Religion Number Math + Verbal SAT
Wh Unitarian 1,745 1073
Wh Quaker 894 1037
Wh Judaism 25,600 1030 * Jewish Avg
Al Quaker 1,009 1029
As Hindu 4138 1029
Al Judaism 27,374 1026
As Presbyterian 3195 1022
As Angelican 197 1019
Al Hindu 4,741 1012
Wh Hindu 82 1004
As No Pref 17987 1001
As U Methodist 662 998
Wh Mennonite 952 990
As Unitarian 49 986
As Episcopal 444 983
Wh Chistian Sci 830 979
Wh No Pref 99,076 979
Al Mennonite 1,063 974
As Methodist 1108 973
As Quaker 25 973
Wh Mormon 6,400 972
Wh Episcopal 19,555 970
As S Baptist Conv 332 966
Af Unitarian 64 966 *Top Black
Al No Pref 137,305 963
Wh Luth Missouri 8,038 963
Wh Un Church of Christ 7,066 962
As Wesleyan 32 960
Al Luth Missouri 8,624 959
Al Episcopal 22,109 957* Episcopal
Wh Presbyterian 32,019 956
Wh Angelican 1,765 956
Al Chistian Sci 989 955
Al Presbyterian 37,353 955* Presbyterian
Al Un Church of Christ 7826 951
Wh U Methodist 23,470 949
Al Mormon 7,594 948
Wh Other 20,125 947
Wh Lutheran in Am 23,380 943
As Christn Reformed 298 943
Wh No Answer 44,397 942
Al U Methodist 26,037 939
Wh Afr Methodist 144 939
As Total 70739 938* Asian Avg
Wh S Baptist Conv 14,165 938
Al Lutheran in Am 25,020 937
Wh Total 688,933 934* White Avg
As Lutheran in Am 471 931
As Un Church of Christ 253 930
Al S Baptist Conv 15,729 929
As Judaism 218 925
Wh Christn Reformed 2,235 924
As Baptist 3003 924
As Islam 2184 923
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UCLA FRESHMEN SURVEY SHOWS RELIGIOUS RIGHT LEAST
LIKELY IN SELECTIVE COLLEGES
\doc\95\12\racereli.wk1
The American Freshman: National Norms for Fall 1991
Cooperative Institutional Research Program UCLA
UCLA freshman survey.
Ranked by Representation at Highly Selective
Coleges
Jewish 5.35
Chinese est 4.50
PR 3.56
Presbyterian 2.70
None 2.52
Asian 2.25
Episcopalian 2.15
Am Indian 1.40
Roman Catholic 1.24
White 1.02
Chicano 0.86
Congregational 0.70
Black 0.53
Born-Again 0.48
Lutheran 0.47
Methodist 0.44
Other 0.20
Baptist 0.19
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http://www.arthurhu.com/doc/94/13/ivypoll.wk1
ivypoll.txt
IVY LEAGUE POLL SHOWS 44% OF IVY LEAGE STUDENTS JEWISH OR ASIAN
"Inside the Ivy League" US News and World Report April 12,
1993 p. 55 Poll of 3,000 undergraduates
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Ivy Leage college survey
Rank by representation rate
Chinese est. 11.0 (twice Asian rate)
Jew 10.0
Asian 5.7
Oth/NoRelig 2.0
White 1.0
Cath 1.0
Black -2.1
Hispanic -2.4
Prot -3.0
Asians + Jews = 44% of students
@@Congress
CA CONGRESS BY RACE AND RELIGION
doc923:cacorel.wk1 - CA Congress and Religion
Analysis by Arthur Hu, San Jose CA June 1992
.prn text file
George Neville-Neil writes
One reason for that might be that they aren't. Both are
Roman-Catholics. And for those who care here is the religious divison
of the California House Delegation (fourty-five delegates, not 16 !).
Parity: 2.0 means 2 times, -2.0 means 1/2
Let's sort everybody by parity rate
House CA Parity
Christian Scientist 1 2.2% 0.1% 18.2
Unitarians 2 4.4% 0.3% 16.8
Episcopalians 5 11.1% 1.8% 6.2
Jewish 6 13.3% 2.3% 5.8
Japanese-Am 2 4.4% 1.0% 4.4
Mormons 3 6.7% 2.2% 3.0
Blacks 4 8.9% 7.0% 1.3
Lutherans 2 4.4% 3.7% 1.2
United Methodists 2 4.4% 3.9% 1.1
----- above parity
Roman Catholics 10 28.9% 28.0% 1.0
Presbytarians 2 4.4% 4.4% 1.0
Baptist 4 10.0% 10.0% 1.0
----- below parity
Methodist 2 4.4% 7.7% -1.7
Asians 2 4.4% 10.0% -2.3
Protestants 5 11.1% 29.8% -2.7
Other Asian < 1 2.2% 9.0% -4.1
Unaffiliated 1 2.2% 13.0% -5.9
Women 3 6.7% 50.0% -7.5
Now we see who's really in power in relation to
their size. What do people have against people with
no religion?? The Episcopalians and Unitarians
are super-WASPs. Blacks are ahead of most
Christian groups, not just Asians! Women fall
dead last. Catholics are average is just about everything.
US CONGRESS BY RELIGION
congrel.wk1
Source: Catholics largest bloc in Congress San Jose Mercury Dec 12,
1992 p. 11G Analysis by Arthur Hu
Relig pop from National Survey of Religious Identification 1990 CUNY
Graduate School Barry A. Kosmin
Comparisons by Arthur Hu
Pct Pop Rate
Total 522
Ranked by Rate
Episcopalians 50 9.6% 1.7% 5.63
Unitarian 7 1.3% 0.3% 5.07
Jewish 42 8.0% 1.8% 4.47
Presbyterians 54 10.3% 2.8% 3.69
United Church 14 2.7% 1.0% 2.68
Methodists 70 70 13.4% 8.0% 1.68
Mormon 12 2.3% 1.4% 1.64
White 1.21
Catholic 141 142 27.0% 26.2% 1.03
Lutheran 21 4.0% 5.2% -1.29
Baptists 62 59 11.9% 19.4% -1.63
Black -1.66
None 20 3.8% 7.5% -1.96
Hispanic -3.48
OthProtes 29 5.6% 20.5% -3.70
Asian -5.91
Native Am 0.00
Episcopalians, Unitarians, and Jews lead at 4.5 to 5.6 times their
population. Catholics (as usual) are average in everything. At the
bottom are the Baptists, No Religion, and Other Protestants.
\doc\95\01\cong95.wk1 - congress in 1995
"The New Congress", Seattle Times Jan 5, 1995 p. 3
Percent White Black Hisp Asian NatAm total
House 86.4% 8.7% 3.9% 0.9% 0.0% 100.0%
Senate 96.0% 1.0% 0.0% 2.0% 1.0% 100.0%
US Pop 71.6% 12.0% 51.3% 4.5% 0.7%
Index White Black Hisp Asian NatAm total
House 1.21 -1.66 -3.48 -5.91 ERR ERR
Senate 1.34 -16.10 ERR -3.02 1.06 ERR
@@Gay
GAYS INVENTED OR AT LEAST OVERREPRESENTED IN WESTERN CULTURE
http://www.indegayforum.org/articles/bawer4.html
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Bruce Bawer Canon Fodder
Originally appeared in The Advocate, May 16, 1995, and was reprinted
in the collection Beyond Queer: Challenging Gay Left Orthodoxy (Free
Press, 1996).
"Think about it: A group comprising one percent of the
population producing Erasmus, da Vinci, Michelangelo, Caravaggio,
Marlowe, Bacon, Hölderlin, Hans Christian Andersen, Tchaikovsky,
Proust ... the list goes on and on to include three of the four major
nineteenth-century American novelists, one (perhaps both) of the two
great nineteenth-century American poets, and two of the three most
noted mid-twentieth-century American dramatists... Western civilization, far
from being threatened by homosexuality, is to a staggeringly
disproportionate degree the creation of gay men and women."
@@Jewish
Arthur Hu's Jewish Spectrum
By Population Ratio
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Ratio Average=1.00
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60.00 Time 20th Cent Top 20 (worldwide)
23.00 Westinghouse Science Talent Search
15.00 Supreme Court Law Clerk
13.00 US Law School Professor
12.00 ACM Turing Awards
10.00 Ivy League doc\94\13\ivypoll.wk1
7.14 Clinton Cabinet
7.00 McArthur Awards
6.89 Time 1997 Top 25
5.8 CA Congress 1992
5.35 UCLA '91 Jews at high selective colleges
5.00 Pulitzer Prize
5.00 US Senator
4.47 US Congress 1992
3.80 Fortune CEO 4-28-86
2.65 College Grad+
2.25 Liberal
2.00 Abortion always legal
1.85 Incomes over $40,000
1.80 Voted in 1994 congress race
1.95 Democrat Kosmin '91
1.75 Democratic
1.05 Some College
-1.75 Conservative
-1.85 Republican
-2.38 For Republican House
-2.75 Not registered to vote
-3.25 HS Dropout
-5.2 Voted 96 Republican President
By Percentage
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100% CA Senators 1996
60% Top Hollywood positions 60 min
20-30% Westinghouse Science Prize
30% Supreme Court Law Clerks
27% Ivy League Survey
26% US Law Professors (Volokh UCLA)
25% ACM Turing Award
17% Boston Symphony Strings
17% Nobel Physiology and Medicine
16% Time Most Important 25
15% McArthur "Genius" Awards 1981-97
15% Time 20 20th Century Inventors
15% USA Today College Academic Team
14% Clinton Cabinet 1997
11% Nobel Physics Prize
10% Pulitzer 1997
10% US Senate
7.7% Corporate Boards
7% Forbes HiTech 100 1997
3.0% US Voters 1996
2.0% US Population
0.25% World Popluation
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Families in Poverty, 1990
Group Families in Poverty %
Japanese 3.4
Filipino 5.2
Melanesian 6.5
White 7.0
NHwhite 7.0
AsIndian 7.2
US 10.0
Thai 10.8
Chinese 11.1
Asian 11.4
AsPI 11.6
Guamanian 12.3
Hawaiian 12.7
Micronesian 14.4
Korean 14.7
PacIs 15.0
Polynesian 15.3
OtherAs 15.6
Other PI 18.7
Tongan 20.6
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Foreign-born (total) 22.2%
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Hispanic 22.3
Vietnam 23.8
Samoan 24.5
Black 26.3
NatAm 27.0
Laotian 32.2
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Foreign-born arriving after '90 33.3%
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Cambodian 42.1
Hmong 61.8
Source: US Census, We the Asian Americans
Immigrant Poverty: \CLIP\97\13\founder.txt Foundering In a Wave of
Immigrants U.S. Prosperity Eludes Millions of Newcomers The
Washington Post, Saturday, May 10 1997 By William Branigin and Pamela
Constable Washington Post Staff Writers 1996 Census Data