+OK 6010 octets Received: from smtp09.nwnexus.com (smtp09.nwnexus.com [192.135.191.10]) by mail3.halcyon.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29773 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from md.egroups.com (md.egroups.com [207.138.41.139]) by smtp09.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24544 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:26:14 -0700 Received: from [10.1.1.23] by md.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 1999 05:26:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact h-bd-owner@egroups.com X-Mailing-List: h-bd@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/h-bd/ Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-h-bd@egroups.com Received: (qmail 4852 invoked by uid 7770); 13 Jun 1999 15:39:31 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by vault.egroups.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 1999 15:39:31 -0000 Received: from Ichee@aol.com (3942) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8TRTa13734; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:38:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ichee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:38:01 EDT To: skoyles@bigfoot.com CC: aoubre@tmisnet.com (Alondra Oubre), hbe-l@a3.com, geistvr@cedar.alberni.net, h-bd@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Subject: [h-bd] Re: Twins, Behavior, Race diff.Confusion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail3.halcyon.com id VAA29773 Status: In a message dated 6/12/99 10:35:08 AM From: (Dr. John R. Skoyles) He states inter alia << There is a paradox about racial differences: the small ways races differ stand out and get hyped, while even larger ones within races get ignored. It is what the psychologists call the, `distinctiveness effect in social categorization' . Powerful cognitive biases thus exist which could cause us to exaggerate -- and even create -- the 'gap' between races.>> Mini response from ICHEE Why are scientifically trained professionals still confused on the issue that race differences are significant? Are there's still human biologists stuck in school Ashley Montague and S. J. Gould? (Perhaps Cavalli-Sforza with his 'skin-deep' interviews to the Los Angeles Times?) : small perceived differences could have been important in evolutionary differentiation. cf, the importance of perceived asymmetry, and may . . . the posting seems to be stamping over old ground. it does not seem to be informed by for example Phillippe Rushton's Race is More than just skin deep: a psychologists view, in Mankind Quarterly winter 1988, pp. 231-249, with its references. The medical scientific literature teems with reports on significant racial differences. When I became a professor and started teaching medical students, I had to mention racial differences, significant in that they suggest that race may be considered a factor. Here is a quotation from Psychiatric Times (Mr. 1995, 22). Ethnic differences in pharmacodynamics have long been reported in terms of responses to mydriatics (Garde and others 1978) and beta-blockers (Moser and Lunn 1981). Recent studies by Zhou and colleagues (1989) objectively stated that the effects of propanalol (Inderal) on blood pressure and heart rate were most pronounced in Asians, and least prominent in African-Americans, with Caucasians falling between (Dimsdale and others 1988; Rutledge and colleagues 1989). Observations of the ethnic differences in therapeutic concentrations of various psychotropics (Hu and coworkers 1983; Takahashi 1979; Yamashita and Asano 1979) and their neurohormonal effects have led to speculation about the ethnic differences in pharmacodynamics of these drugs. Do racial differences matter? At the 1994 annual meeting of the National Medical Association, the African American equivalent of the American Medical Association, a keynote speaker stressed the need for more research that specifically studied their people. "Doctors are showing a cautious resurgence of interest in giving more consideration to their patients' racial or ethnic backgrounds when diagnosing or treating illnesses. "Mounting evidence suggests that race and ethnicity can and should be factors in evaluating symptoms while reaching a diagnosis and in determining the treatment and how the patients fare. "Because of the country's sensitivity to racial issues, there has been a reluctance to address race or ethnicity in medicine except in the most obvious cases, experts say. Tay-Sachs disease among descendants of Eastern European Jews, sickle-cell disease and hypertension among blacks, diabetes among some native Americans, and stomach cancer among immigrant Asians are well-known conditions associated with particular groups. But specialists note that other well-known health problems, although often considered ethnically neutral, may express themselves in different ways and vary in incidence among ethnic groups, requiring different approaches in treatment." Those three paragraphs are from the Science section of the New York Times (25 S. 1990, C10). I can remember when publishing data on Tay-Sach's disease and Amaurotic idiocy among Ashkenazic Jews was denounced as anti-Semitic;* then came amniocentesis. ICHEE INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL FOR HUMAN ECOLOGY AND ETHNOLOGY 212-410-6560 · ichee@aol.com (Robert John) ichee.org P.O. Box 7024 New York, NY 10128-0010 "Of all the tyrannies on human kind The worst is that which persecutes the mind." Alexander Pope (1688-1744): Essay on Man Epistle II, line 239. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FREE email Newsletters delivered right to your in-box. 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