+OK 3854 octets Received: from smtp03.nwnexus.com (smtp03.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.41]) by mail3.halcyon.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26101 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from md.egroups.com (md.egroups.com [207.138.41.139]) by smtp03.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13668 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.22] by md.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 1999 22:40:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact h-bd-owner@egroups.com X-Mailing-List: h-bd@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/h-bd/ Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-h-bd@egroups.com Received: (qmail 15294 invoked by uid 7770); 10 May 1999 21:40:21 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by vault.egroups.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:40:21 -0000 Received: from SteveSlr@aol.com (14412) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id aBHHa10990 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:39:53 -0400 (EDT) From: SteveSlr@aol.com Message-ID: <227bcf14.2468ac28@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:39:52 EDT To: h-bd@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Subject: [h-bd] Re: Goddard: to the Moon! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: 74771.3230@compuserve.com writes: > Certainly by that point [the 1930's] the US had > gotten over the idea that East European Jews weren't smart - either that or > the Jewish quotas in the Ivy League had no purpose. Actually, anti-semitic quotas to hold down the number of Jews admitted to Ivy League colleges were already common by 1922, when the famous columnist Walter Lippman wrote about them, so it's hard to imagine that Congress shut down immigration in 1924 because it believed Jews were stupid. The hostile attitude of most Jewish intellectuals today toward IQ research stems from a multitude of sources, but I believe the most important reason is not that IQ research supposedly showed Jews were stupider than the average American in 1917, but that it would show that Jews are smarter than the average American in 1999. This fear is prudent. Although the conventional wisdom claims that genocide and lesser forms of ethnic violence are caused by the attackers believing they are mentally superior to their victims, a quick survey of 20th Century history shows that the opposite is probably more common. Big groups attack smaller groups for being mentally superior: e.g., Jews, Armenians in 1915, Indians in Uganda, the Chinese in Vietnam in 1979, and the Chinese in Indonesia just last year. (There are obvious exceptions, but most of those were still caused by fear, not contempt: for example, the lynching of black males in the South stemmed in sizable part from the white man's feelings of sexual inferiority. Gunnar Myrdal found, to his astonishment, that the underlying reason for Jim Crow was to humiliate black men in order to make them look less masculine in white women's eyes.) Thus, the large IQ gap between Jews and African-Americans is especially concerning. Nobody wants to see a repeat of the Crown Heights pogrom of 1991 when black rioters in New York City murdered a Hassidic scholar. Therefore, it's not surprising that Gould, Kamin, Lewontin, etc. devote so much effort to concocting libels of IQ researchers. Steve Sailer http://members.aol.com/steveslr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/h-bd http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications .