LOUIS ANDREWS BELIEVES GENOCIDES STEM FROM GOAL OF EQUALITY \DOC\WEB\99\06\equality.txt Actually I'd suggest that it makes *more* sense to suggest that a belief in equality leads to genocide. Look at history. The Armenians, Jews, Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia - wherever a group more talented than the indigenous population has out-achieved you can find examples of genocidal actions Date forwarded: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:49:25 -0500 (EST) Date sent: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:38:24 -0500 From: "Louis R. Andrews" Send reply to: LRAnd@groupz.net Organization: Stalking the Wild Taboo - http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/ To: upstream-list@cycad.com Subject: Re: [Upstream] Diversity, News Credibility Linked Forwarded by: upstream-list@cycad.com Clyde Bruckman wrote: > Sure Adolf Hitler believed in > racial differences, but so did Abraham Lincoln. It makes no more sense > to suggest that belief in equality leads automatically to the genocides > of Stalin or Mao, so we shouldn’t talk about equality either. Actually I'd suggest that it makes *more* sense to suggest that a belief in equality leads to genocide. Look at history. The Armenians, Jews, Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia - wherever a group more talented than the indigenous population has out-achieved you can find examples of genocidal actions. Perhaps the reason is the expectation that all groups should achieve equally and if one gets most of the goodies then there must be something nefarious going on - secret conspiracies, networks, etc. Affirmative Action is only the first step for those who insist on equal outcomes. In a world of unrecognized inequalities of abilities, genocide becomes the "final solution" to the problem of unequal outcomes between groups. As for Mr. Hitler, I'm not convinced that the popular take on his views on race are truly valid, despite the efforts of George Mosse, etal. Probably he used race as a political tool, much like Clinton or Maxine Waters, but how do we reconcile the following and still consider him a "racist"? (Granted he was a virulent anti-Semite, but there is no necessary connection between anti-Semitism and attitudes toward race.) "I know perfectly well, just as well as those know-it-all intellectuals, that in the scientific sense there is no such thing as race." Or this: "I am sure that the Japanese, Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, the French, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood." Maybe his supposed connection to the European "racialist" tradition from de Gobineau on is mostly myth and when he did identify with it, perhaps it was more for popular consumption than anything else - just as his anti-communism was designed to gain the support of gullible conservatives. Look to his actions, not just the words. His two most hated countries (the US and GB) were the two largest and most powerful countries inhabited mostly by the Northern European peoples he supposedly idealized. Would a true spiritual decendent of de Gobineau etal really want to destroy "his own people"? Let me suggest that the presumed association of Hitler and race has become a very useful tool for the egalitarians and unfortunately some gullible people who recognize the realities of race differences have taken the false argument at face value - much to their detriment and ours. Louis --- This is a message from the Upstream mailing list. Visit the Upstream Website at http://cycad.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/ Visit the Upstream Mailing List archives at http://cycad.com/upstream-list-archive To subscribe to this list send email to the address upstream-list-request@cycad.com with just the subject subscribe To unsubscribe from this list send email to the address upstream-list-request@cycad.com with just the subject unsubscribe