\doc\web\99\02\jeworig.txt Date sent: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:09:10 -0500 To: jacobsk@anthro.umontreal.ca, HowlBloom@aol.com From: Peter Frost Subject: Re: Jewish origins This is one of those debates where one can argue interminably over whether the glass is half-empty or half-full. Most people who identify themselves as Jewish can trace at least some of their ancestry to the Middle East. The proportion can vary, depending on the history of the diaspora community in question. In pre-Christian Ethiopia and pre-Islamic Yemen, conversion to Judaism was relatively easy because there was no state religion. In fact, we know that many members of the Himyarites (a pre-Islamic Arab tribe) converted to Judaism in the 4th century. In contrast, conversion to Judaism was much more difficult in Christian Poland. I suspect that much of the non-Jewish ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews goes back to the original founder population (ca. 10th century) when many Slav tribes east of the Elbe had not yet converted to Christianity. I don't have the references at hand, but I remember reading two studies (one using fingerprints, the other gene markers) that placed the Ashkenazim between contemporary European and Middle-Eastern populations. As for the Khazar hypothesis of Jewish origins, there may be some Turkic ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews, but it can't be too substantial. I suspect that some people lean towards this hypothesis because they have trouble understanding how so many Jews could have ended up in Eastern Europe. Yet, in my opinion, natural increase from a very small founder population would have been sufficient. In the mid-18th century, there were about half a million Jews in Eastern Europe (Russia, Austro-Hungary and Prussia combined). If we extrapolate backward, that comes to about 200,000 in the year 1600, about 20-50,000 in 1300 and perhaps only a few hundred at the time of the founder event (ca. 10th century) probably in the region between the Elbe and Oder rivers. This scenario is supported by the structure of the Ashkenazi gene pool, which points to demographic expansion from a small founder group. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Peter Frost GETIC (Groupe d'études inuit et circumpolaire) Université Laval Sainte-Foy (Québec) CANADA G1K 7P4 Tel. (418) 683-1740 Website: http://www.globetrotter.net/gt/usagers/pfrost Lorsque l'homme veut faire l'ange, il finit par faire la bête.