"OUTSTANDING" KIRIS SCHOOL IS BELOW AVERAGE \DOC\WEB\98\10\kirisno.txt CTBS I believe is scored on a percentile basis. Most large urban school districts like Seattle or San Francisco are at the 50th percentile, actually a mix of 60th percentile whites and Asians and 30th percentile minorities. 42-46 percentile is indeed not bad for poor minorities, but it's hardly competitive with the better suburbs if you're looking for absolute performance champs. > There have been two separate posts in this forum of the 14 December > "Lexington Herald-Leader's" article about successful practice in the > Highland-Turner elementary school of Breathitt County, Kentucky. > > 4. But, here's some real data which wasn't in the article: Check out the > scores for this school: > > > 94-95 95-96 96-97 97-98 > > KIRIS 35.6 45.0 51.6 48.5 > > CTBS-5 Not Given 46.2 42.1 > > Date sent: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:36:56 -0500 From: "Richard G. Innes" <70224.434@compuserve.com> Subject: [education-consumers] WARNING - MISLEADING NEWS ARTICLE To: "ClearingHouse" Send reply to: "Richard G. Innes" <70224.434@compuserve.com> ===================================================================== There have been two separate posts in this forum of the 14 December "Lexington Herald-Leader's" article about successful practice in the Highland-Turner elementary school of Breathitt County, Kentucky. While some of the comments would warm the heart of education conservatives, be careful. ECC/Loop and whoever need a bigger picture. 1. The sole basis of praise for this school are results on Kentucky's KIRIS accountability system. 2. KIRIS was so misleading that the legislature recently voted it out of existance. The 1998 administration was only conducted because reform supporters feared the entire reform would falter if testing were temporarily suspended. 3. A major new report from RAND (on-line at www.RAND.org) shows KIRIS inflated Kentucky progress by about 3.6 to over 4 times. In fact, RAND found little real progress in Kentucky and nothing that stood out from progress in other states. RAND all but says the KIRIS was bogus. The lead RAND researcher is a nationally known expert who is highly experienced with Kentucky education. This is not a superficial report by some doctoral student or a one-year contract study team. 4. But, here's some real data which wasn't in the article: Check out the scores for this school: 94-95 95-96 96-97 97-98 KIRIS 35.6 45.0 51.6 48.5 CTBS-5 Not Given 46.2 42.1 5. The KIRIS shows instability, rising consistently for three years but then dropping in the most recent year. The CTBS-5 (known outside Kentucky as the Terra Nova) made a most dramatic one year drop of 4.1 points. COMMENTS The drops in 97-98 are NOT due to one weak class. KIRIS is tested in 4th grade, and CTBS-5 looked at 3rd grade. This is a school, not a class, phenominon. But, take a look again at the praises and compliments showered on this school, and you would never suspect that their most recent experience fell down so badly on the second administration of a national, standardized achievement test (which should have experienced Lake Woebeggon effect and shown rising scores even if there was no progress). You also wouldn't know their most recent KIRIS score declined, either. While I would take the KIRIS trend with a grain of salt, the CTBS-5 looks at basic skills. Clearly, something is amiss in Highland-Turner in that area. Also, look at the KIRIS trend line. If you take Highland-Turner's scores on KIRIS and apply the RAND correction for about a 3.6 inflation factor, then the school's real KIRIS progress would be only about 3.5 points over four years. That's on a test that uses a 0 to 133 scoring scale. Anyone see much to crow about there? BOTTOM LINE: BE DARN CAREFUL ABOUT *ANYTHING* YOU HEAR ABOUT KENTUCKY EDUCATION! BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL IF THE TEST ISN'T IDENTIFIED, OR IS THE KIRIS ASSESSMENT. (How many times to I have to say it..........) It will be interesting to see if Highland-Turner becomes the focus of a new reformist campaign. Was the article a trial balloon or just the result of incomplete research? Who knows? Richard Innes ===================================================================== EDUCATION CONSUMERS CLEARINGHOUSE networking and information for parents and taxpayers on the internet Subscriptions & Archives: http://education-consumers.com or You are currently subscribed to education-consumers as: arthurhu@halcyon.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a blank email to leave-education-consumers-989462S@lists.dundee.net ===================================================================== For less mail, click on the following link and choose 1) a daily digest, 2) a daily list of subjects, or 3) no mail (read postings on Web) http://lists.dundee.net/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=education-consumers For more help & info: http://www.lyris.com/help or