Marlene Tobin: OBE IN PA NOT DEAD, IT'S CALLED STANDARDS NOW \doc\web\98\09\obedead.txt From: WitchyPooy@aol.com Date sent: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:45:55 EST To: arthurhu@halcyon.com, kclp@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: OBE RIP IN PENN? Can WA be next? I hate to burst your bubble, but being on a school board in PA I can tell you this was a bold face lie , told by the Rep. Governor Tom Ridge during his campaign for reelection. He knew everyone wanted OBE out so he had his cronies in the PA DOE develope state standards on the 53 OUTCOMES already imbedded in each and everyone of the 501 school districts in PA , which are there by State requirements, and now we have standards to test those outcomes such as Honesty and responsible citizen. The OBE 53 outcomes are still there and are not going away, the DOE just developed NEW regulations to do the state standards. The wording from the old OBE regulations to the NEW Standards regulations are almost identical except where ever the word OBE or outcomes was used in the old, they subsituted the new word Standards in the new versions. The comparison of the 2 is on the www for all to see, that there really is NO difference. Also our STW contract that our State Signed with the Fed Gov. to receive STW money, guarantees that PA would teach to the "outcomes". A summary of this contract with the outcomes sections is also on the www. Finally all 50 states doing STW have contracts with the FED that call for the continuation of OUTCOMES in education. So you see this was just a ruse, to get re elected. However We had a citizen Peg Luksik who saw throught Gov. Ridge's lies early, and approximately 10000 citizens, for which I was one, worked long and hard to get Gov. Ridge overthrown by Peg Luksik in yesterdays election. Although we were unsuccessful, we did make ALL citizens in PA aware that OBE is NOT DEAD in PA, and that the legislature needs to do something about this. Oh one final thing, in PA NONE OF THE OBE OR STW OR STANDARDS were ever voted on as law by our legislation. It was instead put into place by a Governor's Executive Order (just like the Pres.) and through Regulation, thus bypassing the legislation and the constitution that calls for representation though elected officials. And by the way our State standards for Math and English have been analyzed and are now considered some the worse in the entire Country. So you might not want to believe everything you read without looking for the "other side" . Remember there is always 2 sides to every deceipt!!!! Marlene Tobin Peters Township School Board McMurray PA 3300 Students PS if you go to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette News Paper (the Largest Paper in Pittsburgh) from last week you will read a very different view of this DEATH of OBE..I am quoted in this article as is so many others. Date sent: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:15:10 -0600 From: Gene To: fredb001@spectra.net Copies to: arthurhu@halcyon.com Subject: Pa. and OBE... Please post-gene On reading about Pennsylvania's new standards as being the end of OBE, makes a thirty year OBE watcher say, "Here we go again!" It looks like Pa. is going the way of Va. and several other states that are in the process of a new name for OBE to disguise the failed, socialist system in place. The feds have to come up with an "acceptable" state model somewhere, methinks, they'll choose the still OBE Va. or the Pa. new image model to force as "superior standards of excellence" on the other vassal states. In Wisconsin, a front group that was supposed to be opposing OBE worked behind the scenes/still is to help STW Gov. Tommy Thompson(continually lusting to be President) implement OBE here. They set about to censor out OBE language in state/bureaucratic regulations so they could claim, "Oh, we don't have OBE, here." It didn't quite work-but it was a cute trick-to deny the process of national measurement, goals, "standards" exist while reshuffling the terminology so the people continue to lust for more Packer victories rather than to examine the quality of their children's learning. Peg Luksik caught this trick, did she not or not? Gene Malone Freedom 2OOO/USA