\doc\web\98\07\standset.txt I went down to Olympia to see this, you can login to the internet at http://www.tvw.org/\scomms\senedu.htm to listen to the work session, I can also send out a cassette to anyone that wants it for $4 or put you on a mail chain if more than one person is interested. There is _no_ written standard. The EALRs do not specify how many you need to get right. Since the OSPI and Commmision on Student Learning now claim that they reserve the right to put questions of any grade level on the test, the EALRs do not specify which skills you need to pass the test since with the sample content of 40% over-grade level that I found, you'd have to get 100% of grade level problems plus a few over grade to "meet" standard. A committee sets the "pass point" This is how we can have a test that says 80% of 4th graders are below grade level and nobody thinks that's not crazy when 50% is exactly what we can expect the average kid to do. First the test questions are developed by the test developer. It's supposed to be based on the EALRs ,but that doesn't explain why the 4th grade test has 7th and 10th grade questions on it. Now some OSPI people told me that they deliberately put over-grade level questions on it, but there is no documentation that says such questions are allowed, logically, if a 4th grader got a 10th grade question wrong, it would meet the standard, right? Then they give the test. The "rubrics" are purposely "vague" because they have to round up all 200 testers and look a sample of the 50,000 responses to figure out all of the possible answers and which ones will get a 1,2,3, or 4. The testers are the sort of seasonal people that work for HR block, they are not paid as well as teachers. A 10% rate of disagreement (that's error to the rest of us) is considered acceptable. A "consensus" process is used to determine the "training" documents that graders will use to grade each problem (btw, the questions and the final rubrics are top secret, nobody can 'look at them to see if they did anything that made sense, such as the OSPI posting incorrect solutions to two math problems) Once the questions have all been graded from 1 to 4, then they take a team of 40 people over 3 days, mostly 4th grade teachers, to look at the problems sorted from easy to hard based on % that students got "correct". BUT they are not allowed to see what % got it corrrect (it's more important that a teacher thinks a problem can be expected of an average 4th grader than knowing that only 2% got a problem right). They do NOT have the opportunity to toss out problems that are not compliant. They only set the "pass point" which is somehow related to the number they need to get corrrect. The final point is reached by "consensus", but this "standard" is a secret since the questions themselves are secret. Nowhere in the sample test is this "standard" shown. This standard is set ONCE at the start of the process, and subsequent tests are "equated" to the first by repeating some questions from the 1st test, and "equating" them with how students do on these problems. It was not explained how this guarantees that 2 tests where the 2nd year got 50-100% more passing the standard is just as hard as the 1st year. We just have to "trust" them, just like they insured us that all problems come from the 4th grade EALRs, and that all questions are scored with computer like 90% accuracy (compared to 0.0000%) 9/18/98 - Work session Topics Include: Presentation on the process used to set the standards for the Washington Assessment of Student Learning (WASL) by Gordon Ensign, Commission on Student Learning. Presentation on the scoring process used for the Washington Assessment of Student Learning (WASL) by Nina Metzner, National Computer Systems. 3/2/98 - Work session Topics Include: Presentation by Berit Kjos, author, Brave New Schools.