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Thanks. I can't find any links from "racial preferences" to any of
your college studies, maybe you need to fix that. My look at your
data says that there appears to be a minor, but significant amount of
bias for Asians at U Washington - lower verbal, lower math scores and
higher dropout rate.


The main evidence of bias towards Asians at law schools is severe
over-representation at U Wash, and Stanford (Asians doubled one year
to way-over-represented), also if you ask for the admission cells
from the LSAS, it shows that Asians have a 99% chance of admission
with slightly lower test scores and grades than whites - whites are
only in the very top corner of perfect gpa and grades, but asians are
in a few cells. (by contrast, blacks get 99% chance of admission over
a wide range of test scores and grades). There's something for your
folks to look at or I'll give you a direct link into my index of
diversity into the data that shows that.


My conclusion of UCLA and Berkeley is this


1984 - quotas keep whites at 50%, blacks/hisp increase, Asians decline


1985 - after complaints, white quota is dropped, white and Asian
admission rate is same, but b/h increased again


1988 - b/h meet quota of 8% black 15% hispanic that was announced in
1983 In fact blacks read 12% at Berekeley. This only for fall at two
campuses. 30% of class, mostly whites/asians admitted in winter, so
quotas are only a fall illusion.


1990 - they drop b/h quotas, take filipinos off of preferences,
eliminate automatic admission of all minorities.


1993 - filipino admission rate fall dramatically to below foreign
students, become under-represented for first time


1997 - preferences allegedly dropped.


I also found that since proportionally about double the number of
Asian women apply to engineering schools like MIT, preferences for
Asian women turn into an ethnic preference, and neither Jewish nor
Asian women are under-represented at institutions like MIT which
often give preferences to women. Logically, only groups of women who
are under-represented should be given preference, so white christian
women should be preferred over Asian and Jewish women!


  Thanks!


Date sent:      	Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:01:34 -0400
To:             	arthurhu@halcyon.com
From:           	Center for Equal Opportunity <comment@ceousa.org>
Subject:        	Re: Please add links to my pages


> Thank you for your e-mail. We have conducted research on the state
> Universities in North Carolina, Colorado, Michigan, UC Berkeley, UC Irvine,
> and UC San Diego, as well as for the US Naval Academy and West Point. We
> will do one more report this year for Virginia. All of these can be found
> on our web page at 
> 
> www.ceousa.org
> 
> We have found very consistently (even in places where Asians are
> statistically overrepresented) that there is generally no preference for
> Asians and even some small amount of discrimination against them. UC
> Berkeley, for example, would have a majority Asian class if students were
> admitted by GPA, and SAT scores alone.
> 
> Jorge Amselle
> CEO
> 
> At 10:59 AM 9/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >comment@ceousa.org
> >
> >Hi, I'm arthur hu and some of you folks may have heard of me.
> >
> >Here are some links to consider adding to your site.
> >
> >Nice work on U Wash study, where are the other colleges you 
> >looked at?
> >
> >Did you know that in 1994, 40% of the law school class at UW
> >was "of color", about 24% were Asian. The state is 85% white,
> >and less than 8% Asian, this can only be explained by preferences
> > for Asians , who you must know are NOT underrepresetned among
> >new law school students. There is substantial evidence that many
> >law schools do give preference to Asians, which is not justified by
> >under-representation among new students. Please look into that.
> >
> >My phone # is 206-748-5347, and I'd be happy if you want to help'
> >with the katuria smith case.
> >Race overall
> >
> >http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/hu1st.htm
> >
> >Race statistics 
> >
> >http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/index/asianam.htm
> >
> >Affirmative Action (anti-preferences)
> >
> >http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/index/afact.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Immigratin (pro)
> >
> >http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/index/immig.htm
> >
> >
> >I have probably the best case that immigrant engineers are more 
> >skilled, make more money, and increase jobs and living standards
> >vs. the arguments by Norman Matloff and others that they are not 
> >neccesary, please review them at my immigration page.
> >
> >
> >
> >arthur hu kirkland WA arthurhu@halcyon.com
> >"fairness in diversity"
> >http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu
> >