\doc\web\98\06\readyr.txt Date sent: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:29:59 -0400 Send reply to: core-net@TUCC6.TUCC.Trinity.Edu From: "Stallings" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: FIRST GRADE READERS Originally to: Janet, it is my understanding that Hirsch doesn't put too much faith in the " developmentalism" psychology. Also, I thought the scope and sequence of CK is such that any nonreader would quickly get behind. There can be reasons why a bright child seems to show no interest in learning to read until age 8. Just maybe he was not taught--and by age 8, coupled with being bright, he taught himself. The vast majority of children can be taught at age 6, but not many teach themselves at a later date. A friend has a Downs-Syndrome 8 yr. old reading on grade level---HANNAH WAS TAUGHT, not forced, nor supplied with a "developmental delay" excuse. Suzanne Date sent: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:38:32 EDT Send reply to: core-net@TUCC6.TUCC.Trinity.Edu From: Sprat31@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: How School Systems Exclude Parents and Punish Effective Teachers Originally to: core-net@TUCC6.TUCC.Trinity.Edu In a response to Stallings post: "Now that we have raised standards and become a world class city -- 3rd grade has been designated as a more appropriate goal." What research is there that says that our goal is to have the children reading by second or third grade? As a first grade teacher for nine years I know our goal in Florida, Michigan, and in Georgia was to have the children reading during their first grade year if they weren't already doing so. As a new CK teacher, only into my second year, I am not even sure what Hirsch's philiosophy is on this matter. Does anyone have information in regards to this matter? K. Bearden