From: "Arthur Hu" To: arthurhu@halcyon.com Date sent: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:29:08 +0000 Subject: Re: SPLITS Send reply to: arthurhu@halcyon.com Priority: normal Of all the wacko reforms I've seen, this one appears to be harmless, it's when you eliminate grades levels altogether that it's really harmful. Of course, since this is where kids are supposed to start learning to read and do math from ground zero, I wonder how they'll sequence it without just repeating G1 over both grades. (This is called a "spiral approach", you throw everything at the kids over the course of a year, rather than mastering it the first time around, the theory is that a little bit will stick each year they see it) I'll pass this on to the education loops and see if there's anything more specific. They're smooshing 4th and 5th grades at AG Bell here, and they're happy with it. I'll remove your name from the forward > Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:23:48 +0100 > To: Arthur Hu > Subject: SPLITS > Arthur, > > Would you know anything about - or know where to look - for information > about two teachers teaching one grade level. Next year at John's > school, there will be two teachers for one 2nd grade class. I guess the > proposal was well thought out, each teacher teaching their strong > subjects. For example teacher #1 will teach math, reading, and english > in the a.m. and then teacher #2 will teach science, social studies and > what not in the afternoon. Each teacher will grade those areas and each > teacher will be present at parent-teacher conference. > Do you know statistically how well something like this has worked at > other schools. > > Janet > +- Views do not reflect any other organization or group--------------+ Arthur Hu Check out collecting toys page Hot Wheels, JL arthurhu@halcyon.com Matchbox McD BK toys Thomas Tank Engine email to join my toy mailing list Kirkland WA 98034 http://www.halcyon.com/arthurhu/collect.htm From: Chark2@ix.netcom.com Date sent: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:57:04 -0500 (CDT) To: arthurhu@mail1.halcyon.com Subject: Fwd: Re: SPLITS ------Begin forward message------------------------- From: Chark2 To: Arthur.Hu@halcyon.com Date: 04/24/98 07:45:59 Message-Id: <199842474559611478@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: SPLITS > Janet, We have a similiar type of arrangement in our school but it starts off with some slight "switching" in the 4th grade, and there is a definite switching in the 5th grade. Our children go to middle school in the 6th grade here, which has "teacher specialities" and so it is an easy way to get the children used to the concept. I have not heard anyone express concerns at the 4th and 5th grade level. Ours is done on a school by school basis- not something dictated by the central office staff---I think that makes a difference too. Hope this helps. Charlene ------End forward message--------------------------- Charlene Kimmel Date sent: Fri, 01 May 1998 11:05:34 -0400 To: arthurhu@halcyon.com From: "Jay F. Stannard" Subject: Re: SPLITS Janet, My daughter has two teachers for fifth grade. The man teaches math, science and social studies; the woman teaches english, spelling, reading in the like. They each have their classes, they just cooperate to teach what they like or are best at. I don't have any problem with the arrangement. Most kids seem to like the male teacher more than the female. I figure I'm lucky that my daughter has the male teacher at least part of the time rather than the female teacher all of the time. This is too small a sample size for me to suggest whether this is a good policy but it seems to work in this case and I think the children enjoy the variety. I also know of a couple of other instances where teachers have split a single classroom's duties with both teachers working part-time. One teacher was partially disabled and the other only wanted to work part-time. I cannot comment on the success of that arrangement but I thought that it was good the district could be flexible. I think the children can adapt well to two teachers and may thrive in the same sense that children do with two parents who have different strengths and weaknesses. Jay Stannard At 11:29 AM 4/22/98 +0000, you wrote: >Of all the wacko reforms I've seen, this one appears to be harmless, >it's when you eliminate grades levels altogether that it's really >harmful. Of course, since this is where kids are supposed to start >learning to read and do math from ground zero, I wonder how they'll >sequence it without just repeating G1 over both grades. (This is >called a "spiral approach", you throw everything at the kids over the >course of a year, rather than mastering it the first time around, the >theory is that a little bit will stick each year they see it) >I'll pass this on to the education loops and see if >there's anything more specific. They're smooshing 4th and 5th grades at >AG Bell here, and they're happy with it. > >I'll remove your name from the forward > >> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:23:48 +0100 >> To: Arthur Hu >> Subject: SPLITS > >> Arthur, >> >> Would you know anything about - or know where to look - for information >> about two teachers teaching one grade level. Next year at John's >> school, there will be two teachers for one 2nd grade class. I guess the >> proposal was well thought out, each teacher teaching their strong >> subjects. For example teacher #1 will teach math, reading, and english >> in the a.m. and then teacher #2 will teach science, social studies and >> what not in the afternoon. Each teacher will grade those areas and each >> teacher will be present at parent-teacher conference. >> Do you know statistically how well something like this has worked at >> other schools. >> >> Janet >> >EDUCATION CONSUMERS CLEARINGHOUSE >