c:\doc\web\97\03\kuchta.txt Date sent: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:19:07 -0400 Send reply to: Hank Roth's PNEWS CONFERENCES From: Tim Kuchta Subject: Re: [PN] Debunking _The Pink Swastika_ To: PNEWS-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Mueller's piece actually supports claims in Abrams' book. She's claiming that "recorded arrests" of homosexuals "reached an annual high of 8115 in 1939", and that unrecorded arrests totaled around 220,000. Homosexuals seeking to link themselves to the Holocaust are claiming that more than 2,000,000 million homosexuals were put to death in concentration camps. Presumably, they are still using a 10%-is-gay figure, so I'll use that to check their math. Even if recorded arrests are rounded off to 10,000/year, and calculated at that rate for 10 years (1935-1945) to arrive at a cool 100,000 and then added on top of the 220,000 figure--aw, hell, let's calculate "unrecorded arrests" for the same 10 year period at the same rate for 2.2 million you still only get 2.3 million homosexuals arrested. That's a far cry from 2,000,000 killed in concentration camps, and totally undercuts the claim of homosexuals. She also appears to inadvertantly support Abrams' book when she writes that homosexual prisoners were both "sexually abused" and "raped" by the guards. If rape and other forms of sexual assault were being used to demonstrate power or contempt one would naturally conclude that all prisoners would be subject to this treatment. The fact that it was only the alleged homosexual prisoners who were treated this way would indicate a definite sexual aspect to the behavior of the Nazis. If my memory is correct, both Ernst Roehn and Rudolf Hoess were known homosexuals, pederasts or both. Thank you Christine Mueller. kuchta kuchta@gamma.is.tcu.edu