Nidal Malik Hasan

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16>>Sam Stein http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/allen-west-gop-candidate_n_348248.html
Allen West, GOP Candidate: Ft. Hood Shows "Terrorists Are Infiltrating Military"
 
16>> 1st official to link to terrorism: Allen West GOP 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/allen-west-gop-candidate_n_348248.html 
 
15>> Huffington Post: It had to do with harassment not his religion
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/nidal-hasan-cousin-of-mal_n_347850.html
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14>> Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting
 
13>> Fox News Col Terry Lee interview "strap bombs and go to Times square" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RkV0l3vo9U 
 
12>> Fort Hood gunman worked at Walter Reed
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nation/Local-psychiatrist-ID_d-as-Fort-Hood-gunman-worked-at-Walter-Reed-8492041-69339237.html
  
11>>Fort Hood Jihadi, a devout Muslim, had "Palestinian" Parents, Admired Homicide Bombers 
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/fort-hood-jihadi-a-devout-muslim-had-palestinian-parents-admired-homicide-bombers.html
 
10>>Major Muslim Hasan Advised Obama's Department of Homeland Security
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/major-muslim-hasan-advised-obamas-department-of-homeland-security.html
 
9>>Arab Street is Rejoicing at the Slaughter of US Soldiers
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/arab-street-is-rejoicing-the-slaughter-of-us-soldiers-give-em-billions-give-em-nukes-but-most-of-all.html
 
8>> Powerline:
 
7>>11/5/2009 Massacre at Fort Hood http://www.baltimorereporter.com/?p=7073
 
6>>   The War on America: Muslim Attacker "come to the attention of law enforcement at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats"
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/the-war-on-america-muslim-attacker-come-to-the-attention-of-law-enforcement-at-least-six-months-ago-.html
 
 
5>>   MUSLIM TERROR ATTACK: 'TWELVE shot dead' 12 30 Wounded, Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, US Army Base http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/seven-shot-dead-at-us-army-base.html

 
5>>  muslim terror attack http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/seven-shot-dead-at-us-army-base.html
 
4>> Hasan was ‘mortified’ about deployment
Relatives: Ft. Hood suspect upset over being harassed about being Muslim
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33704314/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/?GT1=43001
 
3>> Fort Hood killer Nidal Malik Hasan opposed wars, so why did he snap?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_why_did_fort_hood_killer_snap.html
 
2>> abc news Army Doctor Nidal Malik Hasan Allegedly Kills 13 at Fort Hood
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/fort-hood-shooting-army-doctor-nidal-malik-hasan/story?id=9012970
 
1>>http://www.sefermpost.com/sefermpost/2009/11/10-things-about-nidal-malik-hasan.html
10 Things About Nidal Malik Hasan: The Texas Army Base Shooter  
 
 

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10 Things About Nidal Malik Hasan: The Texas Army Base Shooter

There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base. Most of all, his motive. The following are top 10 things about Nidal Malik Hasan that you don't know:

 
 
 
 
 
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1. His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars. He required counseling as a medical student because of problems with patients.


2. Six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

3. A  military official said Hasan's family has Palestinian roots. There have been reports that he was harassed for his Muslim religion, but the official says there is no indication Hasan filed a complaint within the military about that.

4. Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, told Fox News that Hasan had hoped President Barack Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

5. On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended. "He was not born in Palestine."

6. Hasan earned his rank of major in April 2008, according to a July 2008 Army Times article. He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. He also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. He received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

7. Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

"I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

8. A cousin, Nader Hasan, told The New York Times that after counseling soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder, Hasan knew war firsthand.

"He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy," Nader Hasan said. "He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there."

9. In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and he wanted out of the Army.

10. For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July, Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

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2>> abc news Army Doctor Nidal Malik Hasan Allegedly Kills 13 at Fort Hood
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/fort-hood-shooting-army-doctor-nidal-malik-hasan/story?id=9012970
 
The guy's parents are from Palestine. He called himself a palestinean american. He cried "Allah Akbar". He's a devot muslim. His name is muslim. He's sided with muslims opposing American interests, and you can probably guess what he thought of Israel .I knew something was up the minute I saw the name Nidal Malik Hasan. But almost nobody wants to tie it in with muslim terrorism or anti-Americanism. The US government paid for this medical school, and this is how he repays the country that took his parents in? "Shame on all of you. Nowhere in this report is the word Muslim or Islam even mentioned. Peace_and_Justice_for_All 8"
 
speaking of vetting, how about a guy given a muslim name by a muslim father, has a muslim stepfather who occasionally took him to the mosque when he went to prayers and signed him up for two schools as a muslim, has friends who said they said muslim prayers, associated with pro-palestine groups, but has never been a muslim, and nobody claims is first in his office of muslim heritage??
 
Ramallah (Arabic: ArRamallah.oggرام الله (help·info)Rām Allāh) (literally "Height of God")[2] is a Palestinian city in the central West Bank adjacent to al-Bireh with a population nearly 25,500.[3] Ramallah is located 10 kilometers (6 miles) north of Jerusalem and currently serves as the administrative capital of the Palestinian National Authority.
 

Army Doctor Nidal Malik Hasan Allegedly Kills 13 at Fort Hood

Sources Close to the Major's Family in Ramallah Say He Was Unhappy About an Impending Deployment Overseas

By EMILY FRIEDMAN, RICHARD ESPOSITO, ETHAN NELSON, DESIREE ADIB and AMMU KANNAMPILLY

Nov. 6, 2009 —

Thirteen people died and 30 were wounded at a Texas military post in a shooting rampage that officials believe was carried out by an Army psychiatrist who was about to be deployed to Iraq.

The suspected gunman has been identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. Hasan would have been deployed to Iraq later this month, an Army official said.

It would have been his first deployment, two sources told ABC News.

Hasan is believed to be of Palestinian origin: His grandfather moved to the United States in the 1940s. One of Hasan's two brothers recently moved to Ramallah and works in the West Bank, the sources said. Hasan's family is said to own a number of apartments in Ramallah.

The family has refused to speak to reporters, but a person close to the family told ABC News that Hasan had told his family he was unhappy about his impending deployment abroad.

The person also said that all three brothers -- a lawyer, a professor and a psychiatrist -- are highly educated. They lost both parents to cancer. Hasan's mother came from al Bireh, a Palestinian town close to Ramallah. She was traumatized by her experience in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, when she was 15, according to the source.

Hasan was initially reported to have been killed but Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone told a late-night news conference that the suspect was wounded and in custody. Cone declined to comment on Hasan's medical condition was but said he is expected to live.

Hasan has not spoken to authorities, Cone said.

Two other soldiers were taken into custody but were later released.

Hasan's cousin, Nader Hasan, issued a statement late Thursday. "We are shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood today. We send the families of the victims our most heartfelt sympathies," the statement read.

"Nidal was an American citizen. He was born in Arlington, Va., and raised here in America. ... Our family loves America. We are proud of our country, and saddened by today's tragedy."

Hasan allegedly opened fire and killed 13 people on the post before he was shot several times. Among the wounded was a female police officer who exchanged gunfire with Hasan.

Cone called the attack "a terrible tragedy, stunning." He said the community was "absolutely devastated."

President Obama Pays Tribute to Fort Hood Victims

President Obama called the Fort Hood shootings a "horrific outburst of violence."

"It is difficult enough to lose soldiers overseas, but it is horrifying that they should lose their lives at an Army base in the U.S.," he said.

"My prayers are with the wounded and the families of the fallen," said the president.

The Senate and the House of Representatives held a moment of silence this evening for the victims of the Fort Hood massacre, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered flags be flown at half mast until Sunday.

Cone said the motive for the attack, which took place just after 1:30 p.m. CT, is unclear. While he said he could not rule out the incident as an act of terrorism, evidence does not support that theory.

Hasan's cousin Nader Hasan said that she believed it was his upcoming deployment combined with the wartime horror stories he heard from his patients that set him off.

Hasan had reportedly recently hired an attorney to help him get out of the military.

According to the suspect's cousin, Hasan was also harassed after 9/11 because of his ethnicity, and was called a "camel jockey."

According to sources, Hasan, who is either 39 or 40, attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, MD. He graduated in 2003 with a degree in Osteopathy and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.

In 2009, Hasan completed a fellowship in Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry at the Center for Traumatic Stress.

He was promoted to major status in May, according to the Army Times.

According to the Associated Press, Retired Army Col. Terry Lee told Fox News that Hasan had expressed hope that President Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and often argued with others who supported the wars.

Fort Hood Went on Lockdown After 12 Shot Dead

Fort Hood, located just 60 miles north from Austin, is the largest U.S. military installation in the world, and has suffered the greatest number of casualities of all American bases in the war on Iraq.

The base is a 340 sq. mile facility located in Killeen, Texas and is home to the 1st Cavalry Division, which was one of the first groups of soldiers deployed to Iraq.

Cone said that a gunman entered a facility known as the Soldier Readiness Facility, where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last minute medical check ups and dental treatment. Sources told ABC News that the soldiers gathered there were getting ready to deploy to Iraq.

Thursday is a day that brings many different military units to the facility to make up miss appointments, said Cone, which explains why the victims were part of different branches.

"This could have been much worse, as horrible as this was, it could have been much worse," said Cone.

Cone praised the soldiers' quick response and knowledge of first aid techniques in saving so many lives.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

Cone said he did not believe the guns used were military weapons.

"As a matter of practice, we don't carry weapons here, this is our home," said Cone.

Schools on the base were also placed on lockdown. A message on Fort Hood's public affairs office Web site read, "Organizations/units are instructed to execute a 100 percent accountability of all personnel. This is not a Drill. It is an Emergency Situation."

According to a source on the base, it is rare for firearms to be on the base because they are locked up.

Homeland Security said it is still gathering information and that the "Army is taking the lead" as of now. FBI agents from Waco and Austin, Texas, are being deployed to the scene.

An army spokesman said that unit commanders have been instructed to account for all of their personnel.

"The immediate concern is to make sure that all of our soldiers and family members are safe and that's what commanders have been instructed to do," said Jay Adams of First Army, Division West, located at Fort Hood.

Cone emphasized the post's plans to amp up security in the coming days.

The CounterTerrorist Unit said they have "no word" yet on whether this incident was terrorism-related.

At least six victims are being treated at the Metroplex Hospital five miles away. Area hospitals are all requesting blood donations to treat victims.

Nasser Atta contributed to the reporting of this story from Ramallah.

 
Forget Muslim religion, psychiatry and fear of fighting. The issue exposed here is that we have been led down the path of what I call "The Ostrich Syndrome" Progressive politicians and the mainstream media has rationalized to us that the bad behavior of folks that are members of minority groups has nothing to do with their affiliation. Forget the glaring obvious; being politically correct trumps all. By circling around the obvious to come back to a kind and friendly acceptance of unacceptable behavior is emboldening our enemies and weakening our society.
 
ABC and their political correctness and their political correctness make me sick. Hasan ALLEGEDLY kills 13?? Are the victims ALLEGEDLY dead? All this babble about PTSD, political correctness, and stress aside, at the end of the day we will discover that this man’s allegiance was not to his country, not to his fellow soldiers, not to his job, but to a distorted view of his Muslim religion.
 
'My point is you cannot generalize about an entire religious belief system based on the actions of one psychologically unstable person.............'One???? LOLAFDL !And speaking of picking up a book and reading it, might I suggest yours should be a Bible......then perhaps you'd understand why the Hitlers and Pots exist in the first place, and how Islam enters into the entire picture (if yer pressed for time, just read the last Chapter)!
 
This action will forever tarnish the Muslim religion for me. I have always made an honest effort not to catagorize people. However it is painfully obvious that Muslims can not be trusted. Posted by: Pr0ud2BAmerican 7:43 AM ----------------- Using your logic, I assume Christianity is also 'tarnished' for you, right? Jeffery Dahmer was the son of a fundamentalist-creationist. David Berkowitz (the SON OF SAM), who murdered 10 women, called himself a born again Christian. Hitler was a Roman Catholic altar boy and wrote of wanting to be a Catholic priest. My point is you cannot generalize about an entire religious belief system based on the actions of one psychologically unstable person.............I am so glad to see this response because a truely proud American would understand that being nonjudgemental about hypothetical groups of people is what the United States is all about. Perhaps they could just find another country where its OK to pretend that all the members of any given group or religion are all the same, that it will be easier to just hate them with no remorse, I know! Create a government bureau that can cart them all off and eliminate them in some cost effective way--I think the Germans and The cambodians have done a lot of research on this--pick up a book--read it.
 
For most of us, it is a matter of "national security" that we must improve the "vetting process" of people coming into politics and the military...the "vetting process must become fail-safe...events like this can happen when we "really don't know, nor have all the facts and truth about an individual that we put in office and into the military...
 
Look at all the clowns pointing at the Nebraska bombing and a few other incidents to attempt to prove their case. Get over it clowns, there are murderers of every race, but the numbers pale in comparison to the acts of terror carried out by the muslims/islamists of this world. But by all means, hide yer heads in yer politically correct ostrich holes....denial is a might powerful thing.
 
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nd0104 has a similar viewpoint with me... if 20 or 30% of Muslims are capable of terrorism, then we need to exercise a cautionary yet justifiable prejudice, especially in our military. We gotta play the odds, people. Sure this is gonna offend some, but what the duck. If all your beagles leave the chickens alone, yet your terriers are caught killing 'em time and time again, well, c'mon dude, you've got to look a little harder at them terriers, even if it's only a small % of terriers killing the chickens. But the most important thing-Peace to all families involved, my heart is with you and ABC please publish what blood type they need and if I've got a rare type they need, I'll go donate right ducking NOW!!
 
You Are absolutely right...Muslim is not a race..it is a state of mind. An organized religion who's current philosophy is to spread by all means neccessary (kill infidels). Yes the Christians had this state of mind...300 years ago...and has evolved to come to the realization that this thought process is actually evil.
 
See everyone? Is not it obvious?!!!! These PSYCHIATRISTS are dangerous! We need to outlaw PSYCHIATRY and lock them all up! They will kill us all!!!! (o.m.g!!!!)
 
With the exception of UN in NC, I think the balance of the comments are typical of people that have no clue about human behavior. It appears the man is having issues, mental instability. Obviously, what transpired is a horrible tragedy and Mr. Hasan should suffer the consequence for his actions. However, to place blame on an entire culture for an act perpetrated by an individual does not make sense. You folks are right about one thing, this is America, let due process run its course.
 
First my prayers go out to everyone involved, my son is now waiting for orders on his 5th tour, I know very well the price my family would have to pay, but to see this happen on one of our own bases? Now it seems we dont even have to go to them, they are already here right under our noses
 
At a time when people are suffering over this horrible tragedy, any thing we say may have little impact on the suffering and I want the victims and family's to know that I am so sorry for their loss. Words inevitably fall short of lifting the burden of loss. Wisdom and lessons that are embraced for the future do not. My reflection here is this. The military is the greatest pillar of the state, it is life and death and the will of its people. Those who choose to serve are to be bound by its ethics and moral imperatives. Is it Ok to harm one another in even the simplest ways? No, it is not. The soldier is trusted with an almost insurmountable burden. War is a result of the failure of diplomacy. This cannot be the concern of the soldier, but we all must respect that what they do is kill people. The pinnacle of warfare is not one hundred victories in one hundred battles. The pinnacle of warfare is to win the war before the batttle begins so that the opponent walks away. Our military is such a force--so terrible--so efficient--so good at what they do that a failure of diplomacy means destruction for any opponent. The guilty and the innocent among them will die. We are asking our military to bare this moral crisis on their soul when we are all of us responsible. I sense that this is the issue with the murderer--a man trained to heal was being deployed to assist in the destruction of others. Is his madness so difficult to understand? His brain was squirming like a toad. Our duty as citizens becomes more clear. We must not turn our backs on anything having to do with war.
 
"all terrorist are Muslims.". Really? are to too young or naive to remember the Oklahoma city bombings that killed so many? The columbine shootings were considered a massacre. Were these people Muslims?Statements as simple and unrefined as that are what breeds ignorance.Look at your facts. Islam is not the only religion that reward for violence or killing. Take a gander at the old testament and tell me what you fund. Keep in mind anyone who practices Islam is Muslim. Muslim is not a race.
 
first as my son is working on his 5th tour, this should have never happened, it is onething to lose our loved ones over there, but at one of our own base?
 
Pr0ud2BAmerican: I'd have to counter with, what kind of God allows such a thing as what happened at Fort Hood? Isn't the God of Christianity (and lately of the USA) supposed to be all powerful and could very well have prevented this tragedy? Why didn't He? Were the victims too bad to be saved? Were they Muslims too? Your "argument" has so many holes it doesn't hold anything. It just seems like you don't really care for people that are not like you.
 
I do not want to single out and say all Muslims are bad. There are good and bad in every religion. But, unfortunately, the bad count in Muslim is much larger, May be 20 times more than any other religion. If you think Christian, Jews, Buddist and Hindus have 1% bad population, I am of the opinion that they have 20-30% bad population. Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan need to be targeted to flush out all terrorists and mad religious folks.
 
This action will forever tarnish the Muslim religion for me. I have always made an honest effort not to catagorize people. However it is painfully obvious that Muslims can not be trusted. Posted by: Pr0ud2BAmerican 7:43 AM ----------------- Using your logic, I assume Christianity is also 'tarnished' for you, right? Jeffery Dahmer was the son of a fundamentalist-creationist. David Berkowitz (the SON OF SAM), who murdered 10 women, called himself a born again Christian. Hitler was a Roman Catholic altar boy and wrote of wanting to be a Catholic priest. My point is you cannot generalize about an entire religious belief system based on the actions of one psychologically unstable person.............
 
I am a retired Army NCO and served on 2 overseas deployments after 9/11. I stood in the very processing center on Fort Hood where the shootings took place. This man was an officer in the medical field. I doubt he would have even carried a rifle. Officers are usually issued a sidearm only. Furthermore, it is typical for medical personnel, especially psychiatrists, to be stationed at a medical facility, not serve on combat patrols. I am confused about the comments that he would have to kill other Muslims. He didn't seem to have any trouble killing.
 
I was wondering what inane comments would follow this story. For all you Muslim haters, what did you say when Timothy McVeigh and Terri Nichols bombed an Oklahoma City high rise? What about when John Russell shot up fellow soldiers at Camp Liberty?Military action messes with the minds of some of our most competent citizens. It is a tribute to our Military Forces that these incidents are as few as they are. As for the rest of us, we've had nothing but a sanitized view of this war as we continue to "shop" at our malls with our "hands on our hearts." My prayers to the victims and their families.
 
"Shame on all of you. Nowhere in this report is the word Muslim or Islam even mentioned. What a rash assumption that this man is a practicing Muslim..."NO...BUT IF YOU'D READ ALMOST ANY OTHER NEWS SITE, OR LISTENED TO HIS RELATIVES ON TELEVISION LAST NIGHT, YOU WOULD FIND THAT HE IS.
 
The guy yelled 'allahu akbar' before he started shooting which means 'Allah is the Greatest'. In my eyes this waste of life is a terrorist and he needs to be tortured for the rest of his life.
 
American_marine22: I'm not sure it's sad as much as it's become typical. The bigotry and racism in the US is staggering at times. Thanks for your post -- it was good to read in the midst of all this dreck. The situation at Fort Hood is bad enough without throwing all this garbage into it too.
 
It was said that what happened at Ft. Hood is an insult to those of us in the Armed Forces. I would just like to say, "Thank You". Those of us who go about our daily jobs, get deployed and return home safely should feel insulted. Its ridiculous to think that you can survive a deployment where the "enemy" is attacking you with RPG's and IED's only to be gunned down by one of your own. Maybe now that the economy has forced more people into joining the Armed Forces, we can sit back and take a look at who exactly we are trusting with the lives our countries sons and daughters.
 
Wake up you idiots! What kind of God is it that condones suicide bomming and mass murder as a way to heaven and , oh yeah let's not forgrt thoes virgins!
 
Some people in this country are as evil as the terrorists we fight. Chirtsianity is not great teacher of compassion and love despite what some of you think. It has a history of intoelrance for others, of killing people who won't convert. Neither Islam nor Christianity and their respective fundamentalists are so great. What we as a country should wake up to is the fact that morons both on our side and in the Muslim world are making things bad for everyone. What Christian fundamentalists have done in the Airforce academy is terrible! There are people in our own country trying to create an American form of Christian fundmentalism that would be as bad as the Taliban.Most of the morons who have posted their opinions here have never read Thomas Paine, or Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin. Old Jay Bee, and Proud2 Be An American, are just as much morons as any tribal member of Al Qaeda.
 
Shame on all of you. Nowhere in this report is the word Muslim or Islam even mentioned. What a rash assumption that this man is a practicing Muslim, or that his faith had anything to do with this heinous attack! You people need to wake up and recognize that your own hate and intolerance fuel violence like this, not prevent it.
 
This doesn't have anything to do with terrorism, nationality, faith, etc. He was scared to be sent into war.. Instead of sucking it up, he turned on those that called him a camel jockey like the people posting here on this board.. A true american response.
 
1. Why doesn't this tarnish Psychiatrists to you? 2. Christians are no great prize either. After all, some of them have been known to kill people for not being Christian, and have forced them to convert. what fundamentalist Christians have done at the Air Force academy is terrible.3. Islam is not only made up of fundamentalists. Sufis would never do such a thing.Dhrai, Proud2BAmerican and Old_Jay_Bee are the sorts of men who do not understand real American values. They are the sort who are no different in their hatred than the Taliban and Al Qaeda against whom we fight. Just to be clear, I dislike both Christian and Muslim theology, and I was born in the USA, and I revere Benjamin Frainklin and Thomas Paine and Thomas jefferson, three men whose writings I doubg the three posters whom I have criticized have ever read.
 
when a person with this kind of position snaps ,it just makes me wonder what good was he doing with our soldiers? Was this just an excuse to be on the inside and do something to our military? Terrorist's are in our mist and have been for years.I still believe that these epidemic strains of flu are created as a form of germ warfare. The media only tells us what they want us to hear.
 
This whole thing stinks of sleeper cell to me.
 
Of course we have Muslims in the US Army. We also have Christians, Jews, and agnostics. This man was obviously demented but it is a mistake to paint all Islam with the same tar brush.
 
And so it begins, there is no end.
 
Another heartfelt gesture from 'the religion of peace'... hah!
 
This should drive home the need for the military to look to see how deployments are affecting not only soldiers but their families as well. We, the nation, need to come up with an way for soldiers to decompress with professional help, to include the family even if it has to be mandatory. The one year off is not working for soldiers who PCS during their one year home because if they go to a unit that is deploying they have to go again...this happens a lot!
 
Allegedly?
 
USA IS FOOLISH COUNTRY TO BELEIVE AND PLACE THEM IN STUDIES, JOBS AND WORST IN ARMY
 
This action will forever tarnish the Muslim religion for me. I have always made an honest effort not to catagorize people. However it is painfully obvious that Muslims can not be trusted. What do you expect from someone who's greatest purpose in life to serve their god would be to take their own life and we all expect that they would respect ours. Come on America.... Wake-up! It is undeniable.
 
He probably didn't want to be seen by other middle-east people wearing a United States Army uniform. So he decided to kill himself and take a bunch or "infidels" with him so he could be a "hero". Sort of like a suicide bombing.
 
I have always tried my best not to catagorize people. This action has forever ruined how I feel about the Muslim religion and it's followers. They can not be trusted. Wake up America.

 
 
3>> Fort Hood killer Nidal Malik Hasan opposed wars, so why did he snap?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_why_did_fort_hood_killer_snap.html
 

 Fort Hood killer Nidal Malik Hasan opposed wars, so why did he snap?

Originally Published:Friday, November 6th 2009, 1:00 AM
Updated: Friday, November 6th 2009, 9:11 AM

Soldiers wait to enter Fort Hood near the main entrance to the base on Thursday.
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Soldiers wait to enter Fort Hood near the main entrance to the base on Thursday.
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
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Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was a soldier who didn't want to go to war, a man of God who defended murder and a doctor who shot up the soldiers he was supposed to heal.

As he lay mute in a hospital bed Thursday night, investigators were scrambling to figure out what prompted his rampage.

Hasan had been a psychiatrist treating wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington until bad reviews got him transferred to Fort Hood, Tex., in July.

He was due to ship out to war, and his family said he did not want to go.

"We've known for the last five years that was his worst nightmare," cousin Nader Hasan told Fox News, calling the suspect "a good American."

He said his cousin "was dealing with some harassment from his military colleagues." KXXV-TV reported someone keyed the word "Allah" into Hasan's car last week and he reported it as a hate crime.

A former co-worker told Fox News the Army major opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"He said maybe the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor," Col. Terry Lee said.

"At first, we thought he was talking about how Muslims should stand up and help the armed forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan, but apparently that wasn't the case."

Before being sent to Texas, Hasan, 39, lived in Silver Spring, Md., where a former imam at the Muslim Community Center described him as devout.

He attended daily services and signed up for the mosque's matchmaking service.

"He wanted a wife more religious than him," Faizul Khan told the Daily News. "She had to pray five times a day. She had to wear the hajib. He was a young, good looking guy and a physician but he couldn't find anybody."

Khan said he never heard Hasan express any political opinions. But at least once this year, Hasan apparently went online to defend suicide bombing.

Responding to a treatise on whether suicide bombers could be martyrs when Islam outlaws suicide, Hasan compared them to a soldier who jumps on a grenade.

"You can call them crazy [if] you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam," he wrote.

Hasan was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents who emigrated from Jordan.

His carnage followed several other cases of U.S. soldiers turning homicidal against their comrades.

In May, Sgt. John Russell, 44, went on a rampage at Camp Liberty in Iraq, killing five soldiers in an anti-stress clinic. Sgt. Joseph Bozicevich, 39, murdered two superiors at a base south of Baghdad in September 2008.

Suicides are also on the rise. Army suicides are up 37% since 2006, and the military rate is higher than the civilian rate.

Since the 2003 Iraq invasion, 75 Fort Hood soldiers have killed themselves, nine this year. That prompted the base to take steps to reduce stress on soldiers, including cutting work hours and ordering them to be home in time for dinner.

Experts say fighting two wars has put unprecedented stress on soldiers forced to endure multiple deployments in combat zones where battle is unconventional.

"In Iraq and Afghanistan, you're in a constant state of attention, and you don't know who the enemy is," Rizzo said. "The nervous system adjusts to that, but when they come home, some folks have a hard time turning that stuff off."

Bryan Adams, 25, an ex-Army sniper from New Jersey, said it's easy for returning soldiers to turn to violence.

"When you're on deployment, you get used to being overly aggressive," Adams, who served in Iraq in 2004 and 2005, said. "Violent behavior is kind of used to solve problems over there, so when you come back it can be hard to tone that down."

hkennedy@nydailynews.com

With Rich Schapiro, Richard Sisk and James Gordon Meek


 

8:27:22 AM
Nov 6, 2009

@cous123.... doing???? NOTHING.

sylvesterowens

8:30:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009

the shooter shouted "allah akbar", before starting his rampage, so religion is the issue here. another muslim religious fanatic

stephanie manero

8:34:26 AM
Nov 6, 2009

he won't be staying mute for long when they get a REAL psychiatrist in there with him who forces the truth out of him.

New Yawker

8:42:29 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Trust me the military does not care about political correctness on the ground. Talk to the women who have to stand on guard for each other while they are showering. The bottom line is that the military doesn't have competent mental health services. We in the mental health profession know this. To their credit they are trying to recruit good people but no one wants to join knowing they may be deployed.

CanarsieKid

8:52:33 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Did you order the Code Red? You're ******* right I did! Why was this animal allowed to remain in the US military...where we afraid he would bring a lawsuit if he was kicked out....?...How aout "heres ur papers get walking...good luck in ur new shack in Afganny you f^&*^kin ****"

NYC Cabbie

8:55:10 AM
Nov 6, 2009

All muslims are sympathizers period! Admitted or not, we know they are always happy whenever America gets hurt. I heard some Pakistanis cheer when they were watching this on CNN, all smiles and laughter. I screamed at them, and they just shut up. Now I have to walk an extra 6 blocks to the next convenience store owned by non-muslims.

izzy bz

8:56:24 AM
Nov 6, 2009

His cousin described him as a good American. ?????? An Army psychiatrist about to be deployed to a combat zone overseas shouted a religious slogan in Arabic before fatally shooting 13 people — including 12 soldiers — and injuring 28 others at this sprawling Central Texas military post on Thursday. Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander at Fort Hood, said on NBC's Today Show that witnesses heard Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shout "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire. The phrase means "God is great!" in Arabic. May he burn in hell, without the virgins he is promised.

mojo1372

8:56:36 AM
Nov 6, 2009

i do not think the guy snapped this attitude was in his heart going back to at least 2001 he did not do anything when he worked with the soldiers that were hurt already after returning from overseas.but somehow he got lucky enough to get sent to a base where they guys are being deployed.gave him easy access to get to them before they got hurt .on the base the rules are no guns walking around only at range practice and if they are doing war games .only MP's and contracted police can carry .many things need to be re- evaluated and changed quickly .if someone in the health area was armed this would have ended much quicker with less casualties . security at the gates must be much improved. there should be metal detectors when people are coming onto the base incase they are carring from the outside like this guy did . the goverment was checking him out 6months ago they should have followed thru .that should be a rule now .everyone that raise a red flag needs to be fully checked out rig

bradybunch

8:56:49 AM
Nov 6, 2009

When are we going to say "enough"? The Muslim community is a disgrace. I have not heard one leader of the towel headed, camel f*cking community come out against Muslims attacking Americans in this country. We are giving H1N1 vaccinations to the sc*mb*g prisoners in Guantanomo bay before our own citizens. These barbarians have to be held accountable. The terrorists who were arrested n Queens Must be executed. All members of their families, including their wives, brothers, sisters and children shouls also be executed. Let's send a message that these "martyrs" will also not only cause their own deaths but that of their families. Maybe that will get through to them although I doubt it. Enough! Let's take back America! Or, at least tell me where I cann apply to be an illegal immigrant so I can improve my standard of living, get free health care,food, residence, and education. Unfreakingbelievable!!!!!!!!

Det45

9:04:40 AM
Nov 6, 2009

I watched the news covering this story for over three hours going from one news channel to another to get different perspectives. Not once did I see the President make any comment on what his Muslim Brother did. This Nobel Peace Prize winner needs to get a pair of ***** and take some aggressive action against these "sleeper cell Muslims" here in the United States under the guise of business owners. Since 9/11 I have not and will not go into a 7/11 or Dunkin Donut Shop unless I see Americans behind the counter. Nidal Malik Hasan needs to be hanged in a public forum.

izzy bz

9:08:37 AM
Nov 6, 2009

DET45, he did comment. http://www.usatoday.com/video/index.htm#/News/President%20Obama%20Addresses%20Ft.%20Hood%20Tragedy/42804638001/40264770001/48567896001

msalles

9:16:26 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Like I have said previously in many of these posts......Enemy at the gates and Enemy from within. So much for all those Obama Administration lovers who think that welcoming these people here with open arms and negotiating with them is going to cause them to change their attitudes towards us. This is your Second wakeup call America! Muslims and their so called religion are not compatible with our livestyles and anything American! They are the enemy of America! Also in the very near fututre we will have an internal political crises with these people as they multiply like ants and then will want to take us over from within. Its time to have a massive muslim registration and disenfranchizing their religious status. Muslim is not a religion... Its a cult bent on destroying us. We must also remove all muslims from our military!

nickydib

9:24:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009

This only proves that ALL muslims are sick, cold blooded animals who get their instructions from the murder manual known as the koran. But why, in this day and age would the Army allow ANY arab muslim to join our military. This piece of s#$* was probably sending military secrets to al quaida and the taliban. His family should be lined up and shot in public.

msalles

9:29:56 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Iran just tested a nuclear weapon by implosion. I also think its high time for the sanctions and the talking to stop and action to take out their nuclear sites to begin. The problem here is the cowardly Obama Administration unwillingness to do so. So we the people must wit until the 2012 election to remove the Obama Administration and put a new President in power with a mandate to take military action against Iran. But 2012 is when according to Nostradamus, the next major War will begin. So that leaves we the people with the only card we have....The Israelies who don´t have their hands tied up. So please Israel launch a preemptive strike against those nuclear facilities and make sure they are so irradiated they will never be able to be used again. That will take care of the problem this Administration is balking on.

Sm00th1

9:35:27 AM
Nov 6, 2009

I am a former Army vet and one thing I know the Army does not do well is liston; they are poor listeners, and they have poor listen skills. They only filter what they want to hear and this is the result. Will the Army ever learn, unless they learn to listen.

faithless

9:44:42 AM
Nov 6, 2009

There is nothing scarrier than religious extremism. You can always find something in the Bible or the Koran to justify committing atrocities, whether it's bombing an abortion clinic, beating up homosexuals, opening fire on a crowd of people, stoning a woman to death, or warring with your neighboring countries for centuries. As far as I'm concerned no muslims should be allowed in the U.S. Military. Yes, I know there are Muslims who never have any intention of ever harming anyone, but I'll bet this guy didn't have any intention 10 years ago either. Better safe than sorry. Religion kills and it is a blight on this Earth and has been since it's inception.

Rifflikekeef

9:59:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Exclude all these Islamic f**ks, pure & simple. This incident is the last straw for me. I have been giving these so-called "devout Muslims who oopose terrorism" the benefit of the doubt since 9/11. Well, they do not exist. I am now done. F**k them all. Their religion is incompatible with our society and our way of life, period. Let them have their own countries as long as they leave us the f**k alone. Remove them all from the government, the military, anything that affects our security. Their religion compels them to rid the world of unbelievers. We need to take the blinders off and tell them point-blank: if you do not like Western society, why are you here, if not to undermine and destroy us? Get out of our country, go somewhere else. If you leave us alone, we will leave you alone. If you f**k with us, we will f**k with you. And faithless, here's some Bible for you: Blessed are those that mourn, for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth. Do un

cdt66

10:03:57 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Look Posters! When you Join the Military it your Job to fight. I am so sick of hearing people Bi*#ing about this war. No one wants to fight, in this war. Why in the world would you join the Military if you do not want to fight in any war. The military never promise you it would not be a war. They give you a gun for a reason. That should give you a hint this may not be the place for you. Think about this… Why join the police force if you do not want to deal with crimals. Why join the Fire department if you do not like fire. These war protester need to shut the blank up. The kids who join, are messed up in the head, come from crapy families or stuck in five people towns. The Immigrants only join for American citizenship. This really ticks me off. If you do not want to fight DO NOT JOIN!

metzfan22

10:10:13 AM
Nov 6, 2009

People, especially ones like NickyDib, need to calm down. ALL Muslims are not evil. Do ALL Christians go to Africa to convert people, and torture and kill and pillage if the Africans refuse?? Your religion has its own problems. Every group of people has a sect of bad people, but to generalize and say ALL of one group is responsible is not fair, because if that's the case, all of you are responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago in Africa to the poor Africans who just wanted to live their lives.

metzfan22

10:15:29 AM
Nov 6, 2009

"Their religion compels them to rid the world of unbelievers" Their religion?? The pot's calling the kettle black, huh (assuming you're Christian). Do you know what people of your faith have done in history?? Are you educated at all??

johnsnare

10:16:04 AM
Nov 6, 2009

A devout Muslim in our Military who is against the war? Wow, have we come along way. All you political correct Liberals take notice. America is finally waking up to this Radical left wing President, and his merry band of co conspirators who have an agenda of bringing this country to its knees. NJ, and VA proved one thing, that the hope and change is a farce. God Bless America. Muslims go home. Please.

Meeche

10:19:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009

This dirty, rotten bum - he probably got paid by the Terrorists to kill all these people - he should be sdhot and njo excuses. Ihope a bunch of pity-people don't come along and try to justify what he did - he's a Muslim, he prayed several times a day to Allah. To think the military was stupid enough to pay for the education this bum got - I hope somneone kills him before he ever goes to trial. I see already where the radicals are trying to justify what he did by saying he was going to Iraq. What a bunch of garbage, anyone who trys to justify this terrorist ought to be shot with him - just remember he killed 12 Military and injured 31 more - he deserves to die and go meet his Allah and 72 virgins -

metzfan22

10:28:14 AM
Nov 6, 2009

How hypocritical for Christians to talk of other people's intolerance. Aren't you guys the ones prying into peoples private lives over things like marriage and abortion? Please, spare me this talk about Muslims all being intolerant and bent on destroying other faiths, blah blah blah. Bunch of hypocrites. Not denying this guy was crazy, but to just continue to blanket the entire Muslim community is ridiculous. And enough with insulting the religion, because your religion clearly has its own issues.

BAT21

10:33:42 AM
Nov 6, 2009

cdt66, did you read the story properly ? The Fort Hood shooter was not an immigrant, he was born in the United States. Get you facts straight, immigrants do not need to join the military to attain US citizenship. Many resident aliens have served honorably in the various branches of the American military over the years, for the same reasons as natural born service men and women, love of their adopted home and sense of duty. Your statement is an insult to them.

Adrian Wayne

10:39:56 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Poetic Justice : You wanna hot button statement. Okay here's one. America should divide the country into two regions and allow the atheist, hate mongers ( black & white, etc ) , idolaters, heathens and the entire sexually perverse kind to govern themselves without a military or police ( stripped them of their arms) Allow abortions only on the hedenistic side of America . Any Christian woman who uses abortion as birth control is banished to Hedenstic America for 20 years to life. These false Christians who love the rich, hate the poor and are prostitutes for the politicians can live on the hedenstic side of America as well.



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Adrian Wayne

4:44 AM
Nov 6, 2009

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bundy bell

4:48 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Islam, is extreme, and I don't understand it all. I do know that certain people on this base were aware of this guy coming apart at the seams and stripes should be removed. The colonel says this is not terrorism, then what is? If a doctor gets a failing grade at Walter Reed, why would you shuffle him down to Ft Hood. No wonder we can't finish a war. The bulls**t just gets deeper and deeper.

Adrian Wayne

4:49 AM
Nov 6, 2009

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patatrak

5:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009

yes islam is peace, and this crazy guy can be everything but muslim. You have to know that killing somebody for X reason (whatever is this reason) is just the biggest crime in islam. You can't consider this guy as a muslim, he is just an extremist that thinks he's muslim.

joeski

5:25 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Will the person who won the Nobel Peace prize please come by to the lost and found desk and do something with it ?

ozoz

5:33 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Ilove USA I love people lives in USA because they are more educaded then any other countrys in the world yes i m muslim and im proud to be muslim because in muslim you cant kill anny living no human no animals not your self in this country evryone respect each other lets not round that because of some sik person. USA special because all religion all coulters all over the world lives in here together very fine they are trying to mess up this dont let it hapen.I LOVE USA ...

SilentSub

5:37 AM
Nov 6, 2009

DaYum! I wonder what type of weapon this low life would have used if he had been told that he is UGLY? The news organizations are truly pathetic. They are interviewing a cousin of this dirt bag and couldn't figure out that the perp' was born here in the states,into the religion and NOT a convert! The cousin has the same last name and I believe is also of the Muslim faith.

bundy bell

5:39 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Stupid question, A marine base with 60,000, soldiers, and a female civilian police officer shoots the perpetrator, Does that raise any eyebrows? 60,000 marines, no guns in Texas, WTF?

SilentSub

5:47 AM
Nov 6, 2009

We know what made him snap. He wanted OUT of the US Army, there were all sorts of barriers to deprive him of his liberty EVEN AFTER getting a substandard performance evaluation which for Military Officers is a career killer. Couple all of this with being against the war etc, because of his ties to the religion and beliefs and VOILA! You have the ingredients that are ready for a disaster of this nature. Since he did survive, I do have faith that he will be executed within 4 years (less time than the civilian time of 15 years average!) unless there is something else going on behind the scene since this is still an ongoing and dynamic (events/info still unfolding) situation.

BushwickinBigLick

5:48 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Hey bundy bell, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but Fort Hood is an Army base. There are more posters on this story than there are Marines at Fort Hood.

AndrewDiceClay

5:59 AM
Nov 6, 2009

@bundybell, back out of this website until you do some research and locate an iota of facts. This is a sad story, especially if you've ever spent any time at a military base. Soldiers and their families should be safe on base, and I think this coward took advantage of them.

mayko42

6:04 AM
Nov 6, 2009

My husband has been to Iraq three times already, he has returned my husband. Please don't imply that all military personnel are going to do something horrific like this. The military is made up of the same thread as all people in the US, even those who may have mental issues, which may not manifest till something extreme happens. Do not excuse his actions by pitying him, he is a criminal that took lives, destroyed families and did not care for life. If he wanted to not go than why didn't he just not show up for deployment, kill himself or something else that did not cause this massacre. No pity from me.

izzy bz

6:11 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Bundy~ An army base is considered a soldiers "home" and it is not common for the soldiers to carry weapons. Aside from the MP's that are on the base no one goes around carrying a weapon. This whole thing is tragic beyond belief. Prayers go to to family and friends of the fallen and wounded Americans.

ArmyRanger

6:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Bundy, you are an idiot.

izzy bz

6:18 AM
Nov 6, 2009

From what I have read the Major was a deeply religious man who wanted a traditional marriage with a wife who would wear traditional garb and pray at least 5 times a day. Perhaps he would have been happier and people would still be alive if he had decided long ago to leave our Country and live in an Islamic Country. He was so opposed to killing Muslims but had no problem taking out American Soldiers. Pardon me, but Boo Effing Hoo, I have no sympathy for this murderer.

khamdy71

6:20 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Normally the extremist evangelicals and zionists pounce on me to silence any kind of opposition to their fanatical views and they would typically cast the filthiest of language and a stream of falsehoods against Islam and Muslims to oppress and disenfranchise them. I wish that they would now sit down and truly consider what is going on and what role they are playing in this whole mess.

katcavage

6:22 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Son of "parents reportedly from Jordan" means they were from PALESTINE!

ArmyRanger

6:24 AM
Nov 6, 2009

@khamdy71, your post, in it's sarcastic tone, seems to indicate that you may need to seek out the Major and ask him why he did what he did. He didn't snap when the Army paid for his education, housed, and fed him. However, when the time arrived for him to move out of the comfort of the base and do what soldiers are required to do, then he snapped.



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Hope1958

6:30 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Why is it that mass murderers always show ominous signs that stupid people ignore? What is wrong with these morons???

khamdy71

6:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009

ArmyRanger, I am tlking about the big picture and how that can way so heavily on a man's consecience. You're talking contracts and obligations which matter only when you are in a normal frame of mind. Once you are pushed so far out there, such things become very low on your list of priorities.

Smooshie

6:40 AM
Nov 6, 2009

How did an anti-American, supporter of Islamic terrorism and suicide bombing rise to the rank of Major in the United States Army? This is a horror story. It makes the US military look like a bunch of bumbling idiots. Was anyone listening when this man was making his anti-American statements? This looks like infiltration to me. I hear there was more than one shooter, so, that means he wasn't the only insider who felt that way. Every American should be terrified that this could happen on US soil and in our own military. This is also similar to the radical, pro-terrorism, anti-American propaganda that is going on outside the Islamic mosque in NYC.

BinghamtonBob

6:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Great..another muslim taking aim at innocent Americans. When are we going to learn, that it isn't some 90 year old grandma who's going to hijack the airliner, it's going to be a MUSLIM!! Until this country gets tough and deports every single muslim out of this country, and lets no more in, will be be on the right road.

Lordemed

6:56 AM
Nov 6, 2009

This guy is obviously a very screwed up and conflicted individual. What is most bothersome is that none of his fellow Army M.D./ psychiatrist supervisors realized this, He was being pushed forward while being either mentally unstable or harboring a deep hatred for what he had sworn to defend....or both...

Poetic Justice

7:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Adrian Wayne are you still smoking marijuana? You posted a link without making any statement. It's like a mischievous child throwing something into a room and running away.

JGT

7:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009

He probably couldn`t take the Lindsay Lohan/Michael Lohan rift that the media deems necessary to report 20 gabillion times a day.

Poetic Justice

7:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009

ISo Killeen, Texas is back in the news with mass murder. I notice people are carrying on about the Muslim religion and somehow connecting what the shooter did with his Muslim faith. I remember a mass shooting years ago in the very same town so I did a little research and here is what I found:"The Luby's massacre was an incident of mass murder that took place on October 16, 1991 in Killeen, Texas, United States when George Jo Hennard drove his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot and killed 23 people, wounded another 20 and then committed suicide by shooting himself. It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history until the Virginia Tech massacre.On October 16, 1991, Hennard drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled "This is what Belton did to me!", then opened fire on the restaurant's patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89.http://en.wikipedia.

Mistahkleen

7:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

That's right the solution is to deport all the Muslims. Bet none of you people calling for deporting and jailing of Muslims have a damn thing to say about all the cuckoo American militias that dot this country. Timothy McVeigh was American, homegrown. Just like this scumbag. For every extremist, there are millions of law abiding Muslims that love this country.

Ray Eston Smith...

7:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Put blame where it belongs. Nidal Hasan is an evil murdering traitor and I hope he gets the death penalty. Don't let him off the hook by shifting the blame to Islam or to the U.S. Army. There are plenty of good truly peace-loving Muslims. And there are plenty of brave American soldiers who don't "snap". This one individual is evil - let him keep all his blame for himself.

Railsplitter

7:42 AM
Nov 6, 2009

The punishment for treason is death by hanging. I hope it still applies!

Anna1

7:43 AM
Nov 6, 2009

"Experts say fighting two wars has put unprecedented stress on soldiers forced to endure multiple deployments in combat zones where battle is unconventional." This man was NOT suffering from being deployed in battle, and he was not suffering from PTSD. It's an incredible insult to compare this murderer to those who have seen battle, suffered and then returned again to serve their country. This man killed because he disapproved of the US fighting against Muslims, and he joined his fellow Muslims in an act of jihad against his fellow soldiers, whom he had called the "aggressors".

Freefaller

7:44 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Another devotee of the "Religion of Peace." Someone should leave a pistol with one round in his room so that he can seek enlightenment in Allah.

that's me

7:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009

why didn't he just kill himself or all the high ranking officers, they are the ones to blame. it's either kill and wound who he did or his own muslins peoples in battle. the decision is not hard at all. blood is thicker than water. O yeah my condolence go out to the families of the dead.RESPECT MY OPINION!

sickdrjoe

7:51 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Just another case of Diversity Making Our Country Stronger and Safer. Remember to keep repeating the official mantra: we've never been stronger, freer or happier than we are right now, today; it's the potential return of hateful, concentration-camp America of the 1950s that we have to guard against at all times.

Ernestoman

8:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Military psychs need to start regular evaluations of each other for security and safety it seems.

PalozziAir

8:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Obama Lover. Plain and Simple.. He was mad we didn't fly over there and Apologize......LOL

New_Yorker

8:10 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Don't ya just luv all these little side benefits from the nation being embroiled in a few wars, necessary or not ? It just brings out the crazies like nothing else. The people who hate can find all kinds of reasons to want to do the same to whoever it is they deem worthy of their hate. It isn't something restricted to one religion or other, the KKK fancied themselves as christians, as do the Arayan skinheads and the rest of the mouth breathers. Of course Jesus said that anyone who hates is not a disciple of his, ever. Jesus wants us to pray, even for our 'Enemies'. Now that kind of Christianity takes real courage.

JGT

8:15 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Islam formed 1400 years ago. Christianity 2000 years ago. Judiasm 5000 years ago. Yet Islam constanty gets it`s arse kissed in the media while the other two get portrayed as Islam should.

KraftPaper

8:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Hasan was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents who emigrated from Jordan. there is nothing more you need to know. Of course there are good and bad in every group. But the INS should be using common sense. here is a Palistinian in our army. You think Israel should treat these people like one of their own. They're murderers. He wouldn't defend his country while in uniform. A coward. A traitor. Defending terrorism is what Arabs do daily. The world is better off without them.



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Adrian Wayne

4:43 AM
Nov 6, 2009

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Adrian Wayne

4:44 AM
Nov 6, 2009

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bundy bell

4:48 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Islam, is extreme, and I don't understand it all. I do know that certain people on this base were aware of this guy coming apart at the seams and stripes should be removed. The colonel says this is not terrorism, then what is? If a doctor gets a failing grade at Walter Reed, why would you shuffle him down to Ft Hood. No wonder we can't finish a war. The bulls**t just gets deeper and deeper.

Adrian Wayne

4:49 AM
Nov 6, 2009

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patatrak

5:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009

yes islam is peace, and this crazy guy can be everything but muslim. You have to know that killing somebody for X reason (whatever is this reason) is just the biggest crime in islam. You can't consider this guy as a muslim, he is just an extremist that thinks he's muslim.

joeski

5:25 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Will the person who won the Nobel Peace prize please come by to the lost and found desk and do something with it ?

ozoz

5:33 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Ilove USA I love people lives in USA because they are more educaded then any other countrys in the world yes i m muslim and im proud to be muslim because in muslim you cant kill anny living no human no animals not your self in this country evryone respect each other lets not round that because of some sik person. USA special because all religion all coulters all over the world lives in here together very fine they are trying to mess up this dont let it hapen.I LOVE USA ...

SilentSub

5:37 AM
Nov 6, 2009

DaYum! I wonder what type of weapon this low life would have used if he had been told that he is UGLY? The news organizations are truly pathetic. They are interviewing a cousin of this dirt bag and couldn't figure out that the perp' was born here in the states,into the religion and NOT a convert! The cousin has the same last name and I believe is also of the Muslim faith.

bundy bell

5:39 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Stupid question, A marine base with 60,000, soldiers, and a female civilian police officer shoots the perpetrator, Does that raise any eyebrows? 60,000 marines, no guns in Texas, WTF?

SilentSub

5:47 AM
Nov 6, 2009

We know what made him snap. He wanted OUT of the US Army, there were all sorts of barriers to deprive him of his liberty EVEN AFTER getting a substandard performance evaluation which for Military Officers is a career killer. Couple all of this with being against the war etc, because of his ties to the religion and beliefs and VOILA! You have the ingredients that are ready for a disaster of this nature. Since he did survive, I do have faith that he will be executed within 4 years (less time than the civilian time of 15 years average!) unless there is something else going on behind the scene since this is still an ongoing and dynamic (events/info still unfolding) situation.

BushwickinBigLick

5:48 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Hey bundy bell, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but Fort Hood is an Army base. There are more posters on this story than there are Marines at Fort Hood.

AndrewDiceClay

5:59 AM
Nov 6, 2009

@bundybell, back out of this website until you do some research and locate an iota of facts. This is a sad story, especially if you've ever spent any time at a military base. Soldiers and their families should be safe on base, and I think this coward took advantage of them.

mayko42

6:04 AM
Nov 6, 2009

My husband has been to Iraq three times already, he has returned my husband. Please don't imply that all military personnel are going to do something horrific like this. The military is made up of the same thread as all people in the US, even those who may have mental issues, which may not manifest till something extreme happens. Do not excuse his actions by pitying him, he is a criminal that took lives, destroyed families and did not care for life. If he wanted to not go than why didn't he just not show up for deployment, kill himself or something else that did not cause this massacre. No pity from me.

izzy bz

6:11 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Bundy~ An army base is considered a soldiers "home" and it is not common for the soldiers to carry weapons. Aside from the MP's that are on the base no one goes around carrying a weapon. This whole thing is tragic beyond belief. Prayers go to to family and friends of the fallen and wounded Americans.

ArmyRanger

6:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Bundy, you are an idiot.

izzy bz

6:18 AM
Nov 6, 2009

From what I have read the Major was a deeply religious man who wanted a traditional marriage with a wife who would wear traditional garb and pray at least 5 times a day. Perhaps he would have been happier and people would still be alive if he had decided long ago to leave our Country and live in an Islamic Country. He was so opposed to killing Muslims but had no problem taking out American Soldiers. Pardon me, but Boo Effing Hoo, I have no sympathy for this murderer.

khamdy71

6:20 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Normally the extremist evangelicals and zionists pounce on me to silence any kind of opposition to their fanatical views and they would typically cast the filthiest of language and a stream of falsehoods against Islam and Muslims to oppress and disenfranchise them. I wish that they would now sit down and truly consider what is going on and what role they are playing in this whole mess.

katcavage

6:22 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Son of "parents reportedly from Jordan" means they were from PALESTINE!

ArmyRanger

6:24 AM
Nov 6, 2009

@khamdy71, your post, in it's sarcastic tone, seems to indicate that you may need to seek out the Major and ask him why he did what he did. He didn't snap when the Army paid for his education, housed, and fed him. However, when the time arrived for him to move out of the comfort of the base and do what soldiers are required to do, then he snapped.



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Hope1958

6:30 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Why is it that mass murderers always show ominous signs that stupid people ignore? What is wrong with these morons???

khamdy71

6:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009

ArmyRanger, I am tlking about the big picture and how that can way so heavily on a man's consecience. You're talking contracts and obligations which matter only when you are in a normal frame of mind. Once you are pushed so far out there, such things become very low on your list of priorities.

Smooshie

6:40 AM
Nov 6, 2009

How did an anti-American, supporter of Islamic terrorism and suicide bombing rise to the rank of Major in the United States Army? This is a horror story. It makes the US military look like a bunch of bumbling idiots. Was anyone listening when this man was making his anti-American statements? This looks like infiltration to me. I hear there was more than one shooter, so, that means he wasn't the only insider who felt that way. Every American should be terrified that this could happen on US soil and in our own military. This is also similar to the radical, pro-terrorism, anti-American propaganda that is going on outside the Islamic mosque in NYC.

BinghamtonBob

6:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Great..another muslim taking aim at innocent Americans. When are we going to learn, that it isn't some 90 year old grandma who's going to hijack the airliner, it's going to be a MUSLIM!! Until this country gets tough and deports every single muslim out of this country, and lets no more in, will be be on the right road.

Lordemed

6:56 AM
Nov 6, 2009

This guy is obviously a very screwed up and conflicted individual. What is most bothersome is that none of his fellow Army M.D./ psychiatrist supervisors realized this, He was being pushed forward while being either mentally unstable or harboring a deep hatred for what he had sworn to defend....or both...

Poetic Justice

7:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Adrian Wayne are you still smoking marijuana? You posted a link without making any statement. It's like a mischievous child throwing something into a room and running away.

JGT

7:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009

He probably couldn`t take the Lindsay Lohan/Michael Lohan rift that the media deems necessary to report 20 gabillion times a day.

Poetic Justice

7:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009

ISo Killeen, Texas is back in the news with mass murder. I notice people are carrying on about the Muslim religion and somehow connecting what the shooter did with his Muslim faith. I remember a mass shooting years ago in the very same town so I did a little research and here is what I found:"The Luby's massacre was an incident of mass murder that took place on October 16, 1991 in Killeen, Texas, United States when George Jo Hennard drove his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot and killed 23 people, wounded another 20 and then committed suicide by shooting himself. It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history until the Virginia Tech massacre.On October 16, 1991, Hennard drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled "This is what Belton did to me!", then opened fire on the restaurant's patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89.http://en.wikipedia.

Mistahkleen

7:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

That's right the solution is to deport all the Muslims. Bet none of you people calling for deporting and jailing of Muslims have a damn thing to say about all the cuckoo American militias that dot this country. Timothy McVeigh was American, homegrown. Just like this scumbag. For every extremist, there are millions of law abiding Muslims that love this country.

Ray Eston Smith...

7:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Put blame where it belongs. Nidal Hasan is an evil murdering traitor and I hope he gets the death penalty. Don't let him off the hook by shifting the blame to Islam or to the U.S. Army. There are plenty of good truly peace-loving Muslims. And there are plenty of brave American soldiers who don't "snap". This one individual is evil - let him keep all his blame for himself.

Railsplitter

7:42 AM
Nov 6, 2009

The punishment for treason is death by hanging. I hope it still applies!

Anna1

7:43 AM
Nov 6, 2009

"Experts say fighting two wars has put unprecedented stress on soldiers forced to endure multiple deployments in combat zones where battle is unconventional." This man was NOT suffering from being deployed in battle, and he was not suffering from PTSD. It's an incredible insult to compare this murderer to those who have seen battle, suffered and then returned again to serve their country. This man killed because he disapproved of the US fighting against Muslims, and he joined his fellow Muslims in an act of jihad against his fellow soldiers, whom he had called the "aggressors".

Freefaller

7:44 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Another devotee of the "Religion of Peace." Someone should leave a pistol with one round in his room so that he can seek enlightenment in Allah.

that's me

7:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009

why didn't he just kill himself or all the high ranking officers, they are the ones to blame. it's either kill and wound who he did or his own muslins peoples in battle. the decision is not hard at all. blood is thicker than water. O yeah my condolence go out to the families of the dead.RESPECT MY OPINION!

sickdrjoe

7:51 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Just another case of Diversity Making Our Country Stronger and Safer. Remember to keep repeating the official mantra: we've never been stronger, freer or happier than we are right now, today; it's the potential return of hateful, concentration-camp America of the 1950s that we have to guard against at all times.

Ernestoman

8:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Military psychs need to start regular evaluations of each other for security and safety it seems.

PalozziAir

8:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Obama Lover. Plain and Simple.. He was mad we didn't fly over there and Apologize......LOL

New_Yorker

8:10 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Don't ya just luv all these little side benefits from the nation being embroiled in a few wars, necessary or not ? It just brings out the crazies like nothing else. The people who hate can find all kinds of reasons to want to do the same to whoever it is they deem worthy of their hate. It isn't something restricted to one religion or other, the KKK fancied themselves as christians, as do the Arayan skinheads and the rest of the mouth breathers. Of course Jesus said that anyone who hates is not a disciple of his, ever. Jesus wants us to pray, even for our 'Enemies'. Now that kind of Christianity takes real courage.

JGT

8:15 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Islam formed 1400 years ago. Christianity 2000 years ago. Judiasm 5000 years ago. Yet Islam constanty gets it`s arse kissed in the media while the other two get portrayed as Islam should.

KraftPaper

8:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009

Hasan was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents who emigrated from Jordan. there is nothing more you need to know. Of course there are good and bad in every group. But the INS should be using common sense. here is a Palistinian in our army. You think Israel should treat these people like one of their own. They're murderers. He wouldn't defend his country while in uniform. A coward. A traitor. Defending terrorism is what Arabs do daily. The world is better off without them.



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Hope1958
6:30 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Why is it that mass murderers always show ominous signs that stupid people ignore? What is wrong with these morons???
Report Offensive Post .khamdy71
6:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009
ArmyRanger, I am tlking about the big picture and how that can way so heavily on a man's consecience. You're talking contracts and obligations which matter only when you are in a normal frame of mind. Once you are pushed so far out there, such things become very low on your list of priorities.
Report Offensive Post .Smooshie
6:40 AM
Nov 6, 2009
How did an anti-American, supporter of Islamic terrorism and suicide bombing rise to the rank of Major in the United States Army? This is a horror story. It makes the US military look like a bunch of bumbling idiots. Was anyone listening when this man was making his anti-American statements? This looks like infiltration to me. I hear there was more than one shooter, so, that means he wasn't the only insider who felt that way. Every American should be terrified that this could happen on US soil and in our own military. This is also similar to the radical, pro-terrorism, anti-American propaganda that is going on outside the Islamic mosque in NYC.
Report Offensive Post .BinghamtonBob
6:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Great..another muslim taking aim at innocent Americans. When are we going to learn, that it isn't some 90 year old grandma who's going to hijack the airliner, it's going to be a MUSLIM!! Until this country gets tough and deports every single muslim out of this country, and lets no more in, will be be on the right road.
Report Offensive Post .Lordemed
6:56 AM
Nov 6, 2009
This guy is obviously a very screwed up and conflicted individual. What is most bothersome is that none of his fellow Army M.D./ psychiatrist supervisors realized this, He was being pushed forward while being either mentally unstable or harboring a deep hatred for what he had sworn to defend....or both...
Report Offensive Post .Poetic Justice
7:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Adrian Wayne are you still smoking marijuana? You posted a link without making any statement. It's like a mischievous child throwing something into a room and running away.
Report Offensive Post .JGT
7:06 AM
Nov 6, 2009
He probably couldn`t take the Lindsay Lohan/Michael Lohan rift that the media deems necessary to report 20 gabillion times a day.
Report Offensive Post .Poetic Justice
7:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009
ISo Killeen, Texas is back in the news with mass murder. I notice people are carrying on about the Muslim religion and somehow connecting what the shooter did with his Muslim faith. I remember a mass shooting years ago in the very same town so I did a little research and here is what I found:"The Luby's massacre was an incident of mass murder that took place on October 16, 1991 in Killeen, Texas, United States when George Jo Hennard drove his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot and killed 23 people, wounded another 20 and then committed suicide by shooting himself. It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history until the Virginia Tech massacre.On October 16, 1991, Hennard drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled "This is what Belton did to me!", then opened fire on the restaurant's patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89.http://en.wikipedia.
Report Offensive Post .Mistahkleen
7:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009
That's right the solution is to deport all the Muslims. Bet none of you people calling for deporting and jailing of Muslims have a damn thing to say about all the cuckoo American militias that dot this country. Timothy McVeigh was American, homegrown. Just like this scumbag. For every extremist, there are millions of law abiding Muslims that love this country.
Report Offensive Post .Ray Eston Smith...
7:32 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Put blame where it belongs. Nidal Hasan is an evil murdering traitor and I hope he gets the death penalty. Don't let him off the hook by shifting the blame to Islam or to the U.S. Army. There are plenty of good truly peace-loving Muslims. And there are plenty of brave American soldiers who don't "snap". This one individual is evil - let him keep all his blame for himself.
Report Offensive Post .Railsplitter
7:42 AM
Nov 6, 2009
The punishment for treason is death by hanging. I hope it still applies!
Report Offensive Post .Anna1
7:43 AM
Nov 6, 2009
"Experts say fighting two wars has put unprecedented stress on soldiers forced to endure multiple deployments in combat zones where battle is unconventional." This man was NOT suffering from being deployed in battle, and he was not suffering from PTSD. It's an incredible insult to compare this murderer to those who have seen battle, suffered and then returned again to serve their country. This man killed because he disapproved of the US fighting against Muslims, and he joined his fellow Muslims in an act of jihad against his fellow soldiers, whom he had called the "aggressors".
Report Offensive Post .Freefaller
7:44 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Another devotee of the "Religion of Peace." Someone should leave a pistol with one round in his room so that he can seek enlightenment in Allah.
Report Offensive Post .that's me
7:46 AM
Nov 6, 2009
why didn't he just kill himself or all the high ranking officers, they are the ones to blame. it's either kill and wound who he did or his own muslins peoples in battle. the decision is not hard at all. blood is thicker than water. O yeah my condolence go out to the families of the dead.RESPECT MY OPINION!
Report Offensive Post .sickdrjoe
7:51 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Just another case of Diversity Making Our Country Stronger and Safer. Remember to keep repeating the official mantra: we've never been stronger, freer or happier than we are right now, today; it's the potential return of hateful, concentration-camp America of the 1950s that we have to guard against at all times.
Report Offensive Post .Ernestoman
8:01 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Military psychs need to start regular evaluations of each other for security and safety it seems.
Report Offensive Post .PalozziAir
8:08 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Obama Lover. Plain and Simple.. He was mad we didn't fly over there and Apologize......LOL
Report Offensive Post .New_Yorker
8:10 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Don't ya just luv all these little side benefits from the nation being embroiled in a few wars, necessary or not ? It just brings out the crazies like nothing else. The people who hate can find all kinds of reasons to want to do the same to whoever it is they deem worthy of their hate. It isn't something restricted to one religion or other, the KKK fancied themselves as christians, as do the Arayan skinheads and the rest of the mouth breathers. Of course Jesus said that anyone who hates is not a disciple of his, ever. Jesus wants us to pray, even for our 'Enemies'. Now that kind of Christianity takes real courage.
Report Offensive Post .JGT
8:15 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Islam formed 1400 years ago. Christianity 2000 years ago. Judiasm 5000 years ago. Yet Islam constanty gets it`s arse kissed in the media while the other two get portrayed as Islam should.
Report Offensive Post .KraftPaper
8:16 AM
Nov 6, 2009
Hasan was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents who emigrated from Jordan. there is nothing more you need to know. Of course there are good and bad in every group. But the INS should be using common sense. here is a Palistinian in our army. You think Israel should treat these people like one of their own. They're murderers. He wouldn't defend his country while in uniform. A coward. A traitor. Defending terrorism is what Arabs do daily. The world is better off without them.
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4>> Hasan was ‘mortified’ about deployment
Relatives: Ft. Hood suspect upset over being harassed about being Muslim
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33704314/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/?GT1=43001

Hasan was ‘mortified’ about deployment

Relatives: Ft. Hood suspect upset over being harassed about being Muslim

Video
  Did suspected gunman shout ‘Allahu akbar’?
Nov. 6: TODAY’s Matt Lauer talks to Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the commanding officer at Fort Hood, about the tragic shooting rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at the Texas military base.

Today show

By JAMES DAO
updated 4:53 a.m. PT, Fri., Nov . 6, 2009

WASHINGTON - Born and reared in Virginia, the son of immigrant parents from a small Palestinian town near Jerusalem, he joined the Army right out of high school, against his parents’ wishes. The Army, in turn, put him through college and then medical school, where he trained to be a psychiatrist.

But Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old man accused of Thursday’s mass shooting at Fort Hood, Tex., started having second thoughts about his military career a few years ago after other soldiers harassed him for being a Muslim, he told relatives in Virginia.

He had also more recently expressed deep concerns about being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. Having counseled scores of returning soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder, first at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew all too well the terrifying realities of war, said a cousin, Nader Hasan.

“He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy,” Mr. Hasan said. “He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there.”

Disturbing postings
The Federal Bureau of Investigation had earlier become aware of Internet postings by a man who called himself Nidal Hasan, a law enforcement official said. The postings discussed suicide bombing in a favorable light, but the investigators were not clear whether the writer was Major Hasan.

In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims.

“If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan.

Image: Nidal Malik Hasan
AFP - Getty Images
Undated photo of Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

Major Hasan was wounded and taken into custody by the Fort Hood police after the shooting spree, in which 12 people, many of them soldiers, were killed, and at least 31 others were wounded. The shootings occurred at a readiness center where soldiers are put through a series of medical, dental, legal and other paces in preparation for being deployed.

Though Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas reported that Major Hasan was to be deployed later this month, that could not be confirmed with the Army Thursday night.

Family shocked at news
Nader Hasan said his cousin never mentioned in recent phone calls to Virginia that he was going to be deployed, and he said the family was shocked when it heard the news on television Thursday afternoon.

“He was doing everything he could to avoid that,” Mr. Hasan said. “He wanted to do whatever he could within the rules to make sure he wouldn’t go over.”

Several years ago, that included retaining a lawyer and making inquiries about whether he could get out of the Army before his contract was up, because of the harassment he had received as a Muslim. But Nader Hasan said the lawyer had told his cousin that even if he paid the Army back for his education, it would not allow him to leave before his commitment was up.

“I think he gave up that fight and was just doing his time,” Mr. Hasan said.

Video
  Community in mourning
Nov. 6: NBC’s Janet Shamlian reports how a close-knit community is in mourning.

Today show

Nader Hasan said his cousin’s parents had both been American citizens who owned businesses, including restaurants and a store, in Roanoke, Va. He declined to confirm reports that they were Jordanian, but said the parents, who are both dead, had immigrated from a small town near Jerusalem many years ago.

His mother’s obituary, published in The Roanoke Times in 2001, said she was born in Palestine in 1952. It described her as a restaurant owner “known for her ability to keep sometimes rowdy customers out of trouble and always had a warm meal for someone who otherwise would not have anything to eat that evening.”

Successful family
Records show that Major Hasan had received his undergraduate degree at Virginia Tech University and his medical degree at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.

He did his residency at Walter Reed Medical Center and then worked there for several years before being transferred to the Darnell Army Medical Center at Fort Hood earlier this year.

Major Hasan was not married and had two brothers, one living in Virginia and another in Jerusalem, his cousin said. The family, by and large, had prospered in the United States, with various members working in law, banking and medicine, Mr. Hasan said.

Nader Hasan, 40, a lawyer living in Northern Virginia, described his cousin as a respectful, hard-working man who had devoted himself to his parents and his career.

He said his cousin had been a practicing Muslim who had become more devout after the deaths of his parents, in 1998 and 2001. But he said he had not expressed anti-American views or radical ideas.

“His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ”

David Johnston contributed from Washington.

This article, Hasan Was ‘Mortified’ About Deployment to War, appeared first in The New York Times


 
 
5>>   MUSLIM TERROR ATTACK: 'TWELVE shot dead' 12 30 Wounded, Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, US Army Base http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/seven-shot-dead-at-us-army-base.html
 

Thursday, November 05, 2009

MUSLIM TERROR ATTACK: 'TWELVE shot dead' 12 30 Wounded, Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, US Army Base

UPDATE: Shlep Smith has the jihadi's cousin on the phone, Nader Hasan, and Schlep is lapping up the lies and he is doing the taqiya. Nader is saying the Malik was a great American. Hasan is saying that the mass murderer "was harassed" and that's why he methodically planned and executed this massive attack on a US military installation.

He was not a convert. He is a devout Muslim who joined the army with a purpose.

7:16 pm UPDATE: Malik Nadal Hasan, the jihadi who led the attack on Fort  Hood, was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up against the US military" "The Malik Nadal Hasan Muslims have a right to stand up against the aggressors" "Maybe we should have more of these where people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square" - this according to Col Terry Lee, who worked with Muslim convert.

No word on the two other suspects ..... something tells me they are not scientologists.

UPDATE: Unprecedented in American history.

Major General Robert Scales said he spoke to soldiers on the ground. This was "not the act of a crazy". This was not the random act of a nutcase. It was execution style, close range. He shot 44 - 50 rounds - that's a lot of ammunition to come out of those two guns in such a short period of time. This was premeditated. "A deliberate act of execution of the largest army base in America".

He was a psychiatrist. That's rich. Obama called it" a horrific act of violence". Obama just barely broke away from his tribal conference (did you hear his remarks after we had to sit through his tired well worn victimization of native Americans?) - and then finally, he made the most cursory of remarks. It was pathetic.

UPDATE: Here is the video. Watch your president after the worst act of war on the largest army base in American history. And Barack Hussein Obama gives a "Shout-Out" before he comments on the shooting.


A civilian policeman shot the Muslim terrorist Malik Nadal Hasan. The hero who shot him dead was killed in the ensuing gunfire.

The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, told Fox News that military sources informed her that the gunman was about to be deployed to Iraq.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

The general said there were "eyewitness accounts of more than one shooter," and the others were tracked to an adjacent facility.

Cone said that a gunman entered a facility known as the Soldier Readiness Facility, where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last minute medical check ups and dental treatment. Sources told ABC News that the soldiers gathered there were getting ready to deploy to Iraq.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

"The gunman opened fire and essentially due to the quick respond of the police forces was killed," said Cone.


The shooter was killed by civilian law enforcement and one police officer died in the shootout, Cone said.

The gunman's suspected accomplices were taken into custody in an adjacent facility known as the old SportsDome Complex.

UPDATE: FOX's SHLEP SMITH WON'T SAY HIS NAME, but will "connect the dots". Which dots? That the reason this terror cell committed this act of war was because "he didn't want to go to Iraq".

UPDATE: Shepard Smith won't utter Malik Nadal's Hasan's name! He won't say his name. The primary gunman. But wait -- he is making excuses for him. He is saying he didn't want to go to war.

Al Qaeda directed Muslims to infiltrate the military for these very attacks.

UPDATE: Shepard Smith, that silly woman, keeps calling it a tragedy. It is an act of war.

UPDATE: OMG, are you watching the news? Shep and the other flapping tongues  speculating, "Was it stress?" "Did he not want to go to war?" "The men at Fort Hood are searching for a motive." "Did his deployment lead the officer to commit these acts"?

IT'S THE JIHAD STUPID

MUSLIM KILLER: The suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

UPDATE: The coverage is beyond stupid. Three men -- is a conspiracy. Three men is a terror cell. For the FBI to rule out terrorism in an obvious act of terrorism (by whom, we know not yet) indicates we are worse off than the UK. Three men, synchronized shooting, M16s, maximum kill ............ you won't get the real story from the media.

Did anyone see Obama at the tribal conference? Talk about making it up to the native Americans (????????) and then a lightweight, toss off ON THE MASS SLAUGHTER at Fort Hood.

UPDATE: FBI says it's not terrorism. Has the FBI hit the ground yet? How can they say that so fast? And frankly, this mass shooting is the very definition of terrorism. FBI asshattery. Obama is at a tribal conference (no joke). When the conference is over, he'll hold a press conference. Teleprompters and mirrors, man your stations.

How can the FBI say it's not terrorism? It's three shooters with M16. That's a conspiracy. Three shooters across seven buildings.

UPDATE: FBI is en route. Why the FBI? This is military. WTF? More Obama "law enforcement" asshattery?

UPDATE: Possibly 30 wounded at the largest military installation of its kind in the country.

One gunman was in custody and another was on the loose, local media reported. One station said there was a third shooter involved. It went down during graduation ceremony.

'Seven shot dead' at US army base

At least seven people have been killed and 12 others injured in a shooting at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, according to US media reports.

One person has been arrested and at least one more is reportedly on the loose. The base has been locked down.

NBC News network said the two suspects were in military uniform and that the shooter-at-large was believed to have a high-powered sniper rifle.

Fort Hood, located near the town of Killeen, is a large US military base.

Home to about 40,000 US troops, it lies halfway between Austin and Waco, about 60 miles (97 km) from each city.

It is not yet clear whether those reported killed and injured are civilians or military personnel.

Local congressman John Carter, speaking to NBC News, confirmed that there had been a shooting at the base, saying the gunfire had erupted during a graduation ceremony.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says there are military police and Swat teams on the scene, and the FBI is on the way. Schools in the area have also been locked down.

UPDATE: Check out the live chat on Fox Dallas/Fort Worth here.

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This is horrible. I pray for all the dead and wounded and their families. It begs to be asked, is this a case of sudden jihad syndrome? Terrorism? What???

A graduation at a military center is the perfect time to cut loose.... a virtual gun-free zone. No one's armed at a grad.

Who remembers Obama requiring the graduating midshipmen of the US Naval Academy not have their swords on their uniforms when he went to speak???

I know the full facts aren't out there yet, but I can't help but think this is sounding like a new tactic to kill our Military - in and out of Afghanistan.

Remember the other day? The UK lost 5 brave soldiers in Afghanistan yesterday, in a so called secure area. Our brave soldiers are there to train up Afghani Police but this day the 'religion of pieces' turned the gun on our troops!

Three Grenadier Guards and two Royal Military Police were killed as they rested in a compound after passing through a police checkpoint. The incident is the single biggest loss of life in a gun battle since British forces began operations in 2001.

The soldiers, who had removed their body armour and helmets, were shot by an Afghan national policeman who then fled. It is not known whether he was a member of the Taliban or being coerced by the insurgents.

The troops are thought to include senior non-commissioned officers who had been living and training with local police for two weeks.
(full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6497403/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-in-Afghanistan-ambush.html)


The news coming out of Fort Hood is very sad news. Thoughts and sympathies are with the USA folk.


Reports just in that one of the shooters was a US Major with an "Arabic sounding" name.

Imagine that.

.... Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

Yep. No connection to Muslim extremism, is there?

yes, imagine that. but gee the FBI said no terrorism involved.

"No terrorism". The Fibbies are idiots. Pam, what was that "tribal conference" that Ozero was at?

The shooter's name is Malik Hassan. Not that I would be jumping to any conclusions, which would be inappropriately "racist". Nor am I saying that Islam might have anything to do with that, as we all know that Islam = Religion of Peace, right? Probably not terrorism either, just a random criminal occurrence..

One would have thought Obama would have gone straight to the topic of these murdered soldiers, but, oh no...left the topic till the last. No signs of emotion, just empty words.....yet I can't help thinking back, that if it had been Bush, it would have been sooooooooo different. Bush had empathy, you could always detect genuine emotion with Bush....Obama is just an fraudulent empty suit.

rant over

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938

there goes that miniscule fraction of one percent of our military which is muslim Americans

Why isn't any other media reporting this dick's name?

What can you say about a religion that openly appeals to absolute nutcases with sociopathic, homicidal tendencies, promising to elevate their crimes to the level of "martyrdom" so long as they claim to act in the name of Islam?

Absolutely crazy. Kamikazes on steroids. How many Muslims are going to have to die before they desist from this insanity?

There is no middle ground here. You're either with these people, or you're against them. Period.

A muslim jihadist attack. This was obvious to me from the moment I heard the news. Even when it was revealed they were soldiers I knew they were likely to be muslim converts. Why does the FBI have to be politically correct and push this BS on the public that this was not a terrorist attack? And they certainly won't acknowledge that this was specifically a muslim terrorist attack. Do they think we are so stupid?

I can't believe that they are still saying that it isn't terrorist related. And SAY THE NAME SHEP!!!

SHEP, of course.


He just "doesn't want to go there yet"- and blathers on about "post traumatic stress disorder".... now watch for the Muslim POTUS to come on to caution against "backlash" and "Islamophobia."

After tuning in to watch Glenn's sub on Fox, and seeing Shep (I belong on CNN) Smith's show instead, I came here first because I just KNEW it would be a muslim, and that our heroine, Pamela would reveal the truth.

I'm usually fairly well mannered, but why the F*@# are we kissing muslim azz? Why the silence on the telescreen re: the shooter's name? Commies and muslims in bed together. What an obamana--sorry, abomination that coupling bears.

Not to be histrionic, but madness reigns!

I pray for the wounded as well as the families of those whose lives were lost at the hands of homegrown jihadists! I am certain that all of you at this blog join me.

Freerepublic says he was a muslim convert.
Fox says this man was upset about being deployed to war.....so wtf was he a soldier.
Excuses excuses.....just another islamic terrorist waiting for the opportunity to kill for their cult.
Brenda Price speaking on Fox says he was a convert!
One wonders who got to Malik?

This article/transcript from National Radio interview? dated May 20 2008 - regarding muslims in Fort Hood - (TARABAY: There are anywhere between 6,000 and 15,000 Muslim soldiers in the U.S. military, depending on who you talk to. No one knows the numbers for sure, because some Muslims don't want to advertise their religion. Shabazz says it's tough trying to be a good Muslim and a good soldier.)
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=90228826

They are trying to claim it is not terrorism related because these were military people doing the shooting. Now they will tie themselves in knots trying to explain it away as "he didn't want to go to Iraq". If the other two names indicate muslims there is no question this was a cell.

Why the hell were they deploying him to the Middle East? Are you kidding me? No wonder we are in such a mess in Afganistan?

The more we bury our heads in the sand to the truth that it is Islam that inspires these heinous crimes, and the more we don't do what needs to be done to outlaw this evil religion, the more they will be emboldened to kill us.

This man was upset about being deployed = temporarily insane = fill in the blank with any other ridiculous deflection.

Those who keep their heads in the sand might as well grab their ankles- Then they can be in position when radical Islam hits again.

Anything other than the obvious motivation which comes from the koran.

I think it is time for the backlash to begin!

Special News Update
Scott & White Memorial Hospital has received 9 gunshot victims from Fort Hood. More are expected. No specifics are known regarding the incident resulting in the shootings. At this time the victims coming to Scott and White are suffering from wounds. We have nothing else at this time. All patients are adults.

All Scott & White facilities remain open and Scott & White hospital operations are continuing. The Emergency Department however, is NOT accessible to visitors at this time.

All media queries should be sent to 254-724-4097. Concerned family should call 254-724-3562.

(Updated 4:45 p.m.)


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Urgent Need for Blood Donations
Due to the recent events on Fort Hood, we are in URGENT need of ALL blood types.

Please come to Scott & White Blood Donor Center and donate blood as soon as possible, we are located in Room 115 next the McLane Dining Room in the main hospital. We are open today until at least 7 p.m. and you can contact us at 254-724-4376 if you need any assistance on determining your eligibility to donate.

http://www.sw.org/web/patientsAndVisitors

Would be wise to investigate all Muslim Chaplains on ALL military sites.

That live chat at FOX Dallas/Fort Worth is full of fools yammering about how "not all Islamists are terrorists" and "most muslims are peaceful". Totally clueless, they don't even know what the hell and "Islamist" is or what the koran teaches.

The Boston area radio station WTTK is covering the outrage at Obamullah's "shout out" opening to his press conference before he finally got around to mouthing a few platitudes about the "horrific violence" at Ft. Hood. It shows where his priorities are, if nothing else.

The fact that the saudis own roughly 5% of fox news might explain the blubbering shepard smith's inability to utter the words "muslim terrorist" or jihad...

lilredbird, do you know what was shouted out? I was watching it but couldn't understand it.

The Boston area radio station WTTK is covering the outrage at Obamullah's "shout out" opening to his press conference before he finally got around to mouthing a few platitudes about the "horrific violence" at Ft. Hood. It shows where his priorities are, if nothing else.

I know bird, it was really weird watching and waiting for him to eventually get to the Fort Hood slaughter. I thought at first Fox was showing the incorrect video......I didn't want to listen to his shoite about what he was doing earlier or the outcome of some crappy meeting, nor no doubt did thousands of others. This man is just incorrigible.

So when will being a freaking muslim disqualify one from being in the damm military. MENTAL ILLNESS and they can't hide it for very long. ****** shep smith and obama

For those concerned about relatives:

Red Cross Safe and Well List

https://disastersafe.redcross.org/safeandWellSearch.aspx

They have now infiltrated our military, on our own soil, on our own bases. When are we going to wake the f#@* up......
This is sickening.

AP: Shooter was mental health professional
By Mike Ward | Thursday, November 5, 2009, 05:22 PM

A defense official has told The Associated Press that Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, identified by authorities as the shooter in this afternoon’s bloody rampage at Fort Hood, was a mental health professional — either a psychologist or a psychiatrist.

Fort Hood officials could not immediately confirm that Hasan was treating people at the base.

In earlier reports, officials had said the suspect’s name was spelled Hassan.

U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, said military officials told her that the gunman was about to be deployed to Iraq and was “upset about it,” The AP reported.

Two suspects have been released from custody
The two suspects arrested shortly after the shooting have been released, according to the office of U.S. Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, whose district includes Fort Hood.

No terrorism involved...The cover up begins...

quite a few updates here: http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/local/spotcrime/index.html

They started infiltrating our military decades ago. Read Walid Phares' books for excellent background on this. This was a massacre waiting to happen. I come from a military family. I love our military. But I know what kind of lunatics occassionally weasel their way into the service and then manipulate the system to stay there. Which is what it sounds to me like this Major Hasan did. I will bet there will turn out to be people back in Virginia, at Walter Reed, and at Hood who were concerned about this officer but the PC strictures against questioning any religion (and I've seen serious cultists including satanists play this game) would have stopped them from questioning the behavior of a muslim.

The two other suspects have been released but now there are reports about there having been a second shooter. Does that mean anothor one of these guys is still running around loose at Hood?

The "shout out" was to a Dr. Joe Medicine Crow who is apparently a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient and was at that tribal meeting. I bet he was just thrilled to be getting a hello from Ozero when 12 of his fellow soldiers had just been murdered.

Those trash internet sites -- I don't mean just the libel blogger site, but those sites that incomptently ridicule scholar Robert Spencer and human rights activist, Pamela Geller -- like loonwatch that say The mooooslims are here are right! The moooslims are here and they murdering us just as they do in Israel.

People have attacked me for working with Rabbi Meir Kahane, Zt"l, but he was right and if people would've listened to him, we wouldn't be in the trouble we're in right now.

The Jewish Defense League Marching Song: http://tinyurl.com/mzmbch

"And though shalt call him Ishmael. And he will be a wildman. His hand against everyman and everyman's hand against him."

Genesis 16:12

"The Arabs are savages who just don't want to use their mind."

Ayn Rand

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=5

Major Killer was a psychiatrist who studied at a medical university in Damascus, Syria.

Sorry, I missed this bit off:

Army Officials to Discuss Latest on Fort Hood Shooting: Watch Live
http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=5

This talk on MSNBC/ABC/CBS of the perps not wanting to deploy to justify the murders is making me violently ill.

I'm from a different generation of military with my four and half years in the South East Asia wargames. If you have a beef with the war, you go AWOL just as troops have done since the Revolutionary War. This was true in my generation and is true now.

This was a jihad. I am a retired USAF officer and this Major was a psychiatrist. HE WAS NOT INSANE. He, like all other officers, took an oath to the Constitution of the United States. To make major, he was evaluated closely by superiors to obtain a field-grade commission. The only thing in my mind that would cause a person to override his oath to the Constitution would be a religious commitment -- A jihad where his attacks on the infidels would buy him a ticket to heaven. THIS WAS A JIHAD...

I can only pray that this is some sort of conspiracy where someone stole the identity of this major and he is really an unknown fanatic terrorist in disguise. The actions of this officer stains all officers. But not only that, it is a stain on all the military who maintain a special bond of trust in fellow soldiers in arms. This is especially sad as it statins those honorable men and women of Muslim national extractions who still serve our glorious country.

This is from a Hot Air article:

“They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting,” Tom Hunt said. “He couldn’t say much more than that.”

"Shepard Smith won't utter Malik Nadal's Hasan's name! He won't say his name. The primary gunman. But wait -- he is making excuses for him. He is saying he didn't want to go to war."

Shepard, he didn't want to go to war? He was at war, you dumbfuck. "An army of one."

The comments over at HuffPo are the pathetic. Every single one was an excuse.....PTS,etc,etc

March 24 2003

An American soldier is in custody after a grenade attack at a US military camp in Kuwait which killed one of his comrades and wounded 13 others.

He was found hiding in a bunker and arrested after the early morning attack at the heavily guarded camp of the 101st Airborne Division.

The attacker threw three grenades into three tents, including the command tent, at Camp Pennsylvania, one of the desert bases from where US forces have launched an invasion of Iraq, officials said. One soldier was killed, three were seriously injured and 10 other servicemen had superficial injuries, military officials said.

US broadcaster Fox News said the suspect was a Muslim American and that he had been described as "acting strange".

(Sgt. Hassan Akbar ...)

And now this: Shooting at military recruiting center; 1 dead, 1 wounded; suspect is anti-military Muslim convert
By Michelle Malkin • June 1, 2009 02:02 PM Scroll down for updates…meet the Muslim domestic terrorist suspect, Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad…Where is Obama’s denunciation of the attack?

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/01/and-now-this-shooting-at-military-recruiting-center-1-dead-1-wounded/


Is anybody watching the live feed from Hood that's on FOX right now? Who the hell is that bald guy in the suit? He was standing behind that general (the CO of Hood?) earlier today. Now he's laughing it up with the media people about setting up the next briefing. What do some of these people find so damn funny about all this?

You expect it at HuffPo. This guy is what, with Public Relations at the base? My dad was a PR officer. He'd had killed anyone who stood around giggling after something like this had happened.

I agree with Kilani O'Sullivan, this was jihad. But unless all "those honorable men and women of muslim... extraction" stand up and denouce this act for what it was an in no uncertain terms I will consider them collaborators. We now have quotes from this murdering jihaist bastard that make his motive crystal clear. Let's hear what they have to say.

lilredbird/rra

 
6>>   The War on America: Muslim Attacker "come to the attention of law enforcement at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats"
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/the-war-on-america-muslim-attacker-come-to-the-attention-of-law-enforcement-at-least-six-months-ago-.html
 

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He is still alive! So, is the female who shot him?

The next phase begins.

Satan's spawn is not dead - my 2 cents as to why they just announced that - they were justifiably concerned that until they had him in a secured location, his life would not be worth 2 cents.

The military is a tight knit group - what happens to one of us happens to us all. Your life is in the hands of the guy beside you, and his in yours. And cowardly acts such as this incident are dealt with harshly and swiftly.

He'll be in hell soon enough.

There where more with him. This is going to be another whitewash by the Obama Media.
How many have to die before people sit up & take notice this is not normal. Jihad syndrome. I suppose if this was 1930 we would have fascists in our armed forces just to be multicultural.
Maybe the Pacific fleet would have had devout Shintoists. You know the ones who where flying planes into American shipping & war Ships.
So having Islamists join up makes perfect sense in the Armed Forces.

Where is an "angel of mercy" when you need one. I'm sure that this mooslime piece of shit will be under guard 24/7 to protect his life from harm.

Have we now turned our military bases into "gun free zones"???

What responsiblity should the base commander have in this? Or the idiot who recently promoted him to Major. Or "law enforcement" who discovered his Jihadi predisposition and did nothing? There are a lot of ignorant Americans running around oblivious to the painfully obvious threat. Every "devout" Muslim is a sleeper cell - a ticking Jihadi.

Service and survival in combat requires TRUST - Trust in your fellow soldier, sailor, airman, or marine - that they have your back, will do their job, and will work to protect you, just as you work to protect them.

Now we have yet another incident in which a "muslim" chose loyalty to his religion over loyalty to his fellow soldiers. If I'm a 22 year old combat soldier on a dangerous mission in Afghanistan how can I possibly trust that the "muslim" serving next to me won't make the same choice? If I'm a 24 your old British soldier training Afghan police cadets, how can I possibly trust that one of those cadets won't choose to kill me and 4 of my fellow soldiers?

The "muslims" in our midst have demonstrated time and again that they cannot be trusted. THe great "silent majority" of moderate muslims is either a myth, or their silence implies consent.

There is a reason the Nisei - Japanese-American soldiers - were segregated into their own unit in World War II. If the military does nothing else as a result of this incident, it should immediately segregate all muslim soldiers into their own units - and then like the Nisei put them into the very heart of battle. Perhaps if they prove their loyalty in the heat of armed conflict we can learn to trust them. Until that time, they should not be permitted to mix with the rest of our troops - and the politically correct bedwetters who won't like it, can just go to H*ll.

I would like to extend my thanks to Barack Hussein Obama, his unbelievably corrupt administration, and all his bird-brained supporters for making this terrible tragedy possible!!

How long will we have to go before the fact is publicised that the Koran is the issue behind all Muslim violence?

Achilles - great idea - segregation - until it's proven that they can be trusted. How many people have to die before policies change?

Never, ever trust a Mohammedan.

The history of Muslim treachery is as old as the history of Islam.

As Mohammed said,
"War is deceit".

Wise up, world.

From post above: - great idea - segregation - until it's proven that they can be trusted.

'Time keeps on slipping, slipping, into the future'...'Until', is not achievable...There will never be a time when they can be trusted...

Mike W & duh swami - I know that both of you are absolutely correct. BUT you will NEVER - NOT EVER - get politicians to take your approach. Achilles' approach is better than what is happening now, which is setting up innocent people for slaughter. At least Achilles' method would be a start in the right direction. However, it's highly unlikely that politicians will ever accept segregated wings of the military.

Politically correct, multicultural crap, along with the immigrant vote, is most important to elected officials in every Western country. The deaths of innocent people are just another statistic, that politicians don't lose any sleep over.

Does anyone really believe that Obama's Administration gives a shit about the loss of life on a military base? His Administration is doing every thing in its power to decimate the military - in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the U.S.

Soldiers are being slaughtered in Afghanistan, because Obama still hasn't sent in the extra troops he promised. As a Canadian, it infuriates me that the President of the U.S. is deliberately f*****g with the lives of our soldiers - U.S., Canadian & others.

At the very least Obama is a child who can't resist watching himself on TV, or visiting school children - because they are easier to snow with his bs. At the very worst, and the most likely scenario - he is the enemy within.

Since World War II - people have pondered on how Hitler managed to get away with his atrocities - asking why didn't anyone stop him before things got so far out of control? Throughout my entire life, I've heard people argue that there's no way in hell, they would have allowed a tyrant like Hitler to take control, because he would have been ousted from the get go. All of that posturing was nothing more than arm chair general bullshit - much like what goes on in the comment sections on various blogs - not just here. I'm guilty of posturing too - we all are. But, the harsh reality is that once someone gets into power - be it Hitler or Obama - it is extremely difficult, if not impossible - to get them out of office - particularly when votes are rigged - as they were during the last U.S. election - or if the Administration passes legislation to extend the term of the President.

Now we have a sense of what occurred in Germany when Hitler took over, and turned the world upside down. It's a somber thought. All of us were entrusted to protect the very freedoms that our parents fought for during World War II. Yet, 60 odd years later we find those freedoms are rapidly slipping away, and many of our elected officials - who control military, and law enforcement agencies - are aligned with our enemies.

Attacks, such as today's, are going to increase, and it's likely there will be simultaneous assaults again - like 9/11. Obama has empowered our enemies - because he's an idiot or a traitor. I strongly suspect it's the latter. G-d help the West, when the American President assists, and enables, our enemies.

We aren't even permitted to name the enemy, or segregate him from our crucial institutions like the military. It is virtually impossible to win a War, when enemies have infiltrated in massive numbers; are protected; and financed.

Everyone on this forum knows that very dark days are ahead. I use Kosovo as my yard stick. Western Governments, and NATO forces worked with our Muslim enemies, against the Serbs. If such a betrayal could happen in Kosovo, then most certainly it can happen here too.

Thank G-d we have Pam. Without her, and others like Robert, etc. the truth would be buried. Their efforts are crucial to our survival. But, we need to do something with the information that Pam courageously disseminates. The question remains - what?

I think about our War with Islam, every waking moment, as I'm sure most of you do too. But, I have no solutions. What about you Mike W & duh swami - do you have suggestions? I'm not being sarcastic - I am genuinely interested in hearing ideas from the two of you, and others.

We'd better come up with answers soon - otherwise we can kiss the West goodbye.

I apologize for the rant. I am extremely frustrated, (as I'm sure everyone else is), with ridiculous attitudes prevalent throughout the West. The truth about Islam is well documented. Yet, politicians continue to be in denial, or have sold their souls to our enemies. It's excruciatingly painful to watch the West commit suicide.

I apologize for the rant. I am extremely frustrated, (as I'm sure everyone else is), with ridiculous attitudes prevalent throughout the West. The truth about Islam is well documented. Yet, politicians continue to be in denial, or have sold their souls to our enemies. It's excruciatingly painful to watch the West commit suicide.

Rant away, Jane. Rant away, and don't apologize for it. Politicians are more than merely in denial, they don't effing care about anything but reelection.

As for Western society's suicide? My sister's husband killed himself a few weeks ago, so I can't really agree with that statement. He was depressed and desperately wanted to end his pain. That, I understand. That, I have lived through. Our culture isn't committing suicide, we're willingly walking into the burning building, so to speak.

Withdrew from school this term, partly to deal with my brother-in-law's death, but also because I am sick sick sick of the multicultural-peace and love-Israel & America are evil-apathetic bullshit on campus. I almost lost it in the library earlier this week, overhearing some asshat handing out fliers propagandizing the poor, suffering Pali refugees. Ugh. I do not want my student fees to pay for this crap.

Sorry for being too personal on here, but I need something to be angry at and politically correct bullshit, whitewashing politicians, and multicultural sitting-around-the-campfire-singing-Kumbaya-asshattery seems to be a good target. Better than myself or my family right now.

What a sad day this has been. Already they set up the defenses, the "poor man" was abused. Then what you have uncovered Pam in the blogs.

Jihad from within the military and apparently Jihad from within the government. Sadly, I was not at all surprised to find that he was alive, I knew it. I knew it was being covered up, confused purposely to the people.

In my mind, if the military knew he was writing these things, if they knew he had jumped over to the dark side, why didn't they remove him from duty, get him treated, neutralize his efforts rather than just transfer him?

Can you just imagine the young warriors he was treating for PTSD? Do you imagine he said things that increased their guilt and their struggle rather than relieve it? I do. They allowed him to keep treating these kids, here the stories and build his sense of righteousness.

A solider, a co-worker of my husband's son came home recently. Struggling horribly with PTSD, having seen 3 of his friends executed in front of his face in Afghanistan. He was "treated" for a few weeks then cut loose. No benefits, no anything. 2 weeks ago he walked in to presumably speak to his father, stood before him and blew his own brains out. Tears streaming down his face, he said "there is no way out."

Was it this man Hasan who "treated and released" him? Was that his sense of justice for the war on terrorism? Or did he do similar to other boys?

I wonder how many of the people he shot were revenge for him, people he treated. We will never know.

Then just yesterday the Senate blocked the GOP's attempt to keep the terrorists in the military courts, so he will be moved to the civil courts along with the rest to weave his tales of mental distress and he will become the major martyr of the system, and be used as a tool of the President to convince the left loonies further, cement their beliefs further that we must allow fraternity in Islamist expression, anything goes. CAIR will come in and make a befuddled mess of it all, with all their money and all their lies. No unsuspecting, uneducated-in-the-ways-of-Islamist-fervor American will be able to make sense of it all.

God help us all. Remember. Freedom isn't free.

Sorry, Hear the stories, not here the stories.

We have got to get Obama & his thugs out of our White House immediately! I don't understand why they are still there. They should all be in jail! They have broken many laws of our Constitution and continue to do so but most of all Obama is NOT PROTECTION THE UNINTED STATES OF AMERICA as he was sworn in to do! That is his highest & most important obligation to the people of the Uninted States and it has NEVER been on his list of priorities. As a matter of fact it is obvious and has been all along that his main priority is to DESTROY the USA. To break it all the way down and rebuild it as a muslim nation. If you can't see this by now, it will probably take you being attacked yourself before you do.

Military service is compulsory in Israel. For all but Muslim Israeli citizens. In fact, they will not even let them into the army. This is not racism, it is self preservation. The first thing a Muslim interpreter in the British did was to offer information to Iran. When will the west learn?


 
7>>11/5/2009 Massacre at Fort Hood http://www.baltimorereporter.com/?p=7073
 

11/5/2009

Massacre at Fort Hood
Filed under: — Robert Farrow @ 11:27 pm

Let’s start with Powerline

The question, obviously, is whether it was a terrorist attack, or just a disgruntled soldier who snapped. The gunman who murdered at least eleven people has been identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a psychiatrist who has been working at Walter Reed and was scheduled to be deployed to Iraq.

There have been reports that two other men were taken into custody, but they now have apparently been released. It’s also being reported that a third man has been picked up for questioning. This seems odd, if Hasan was a lone gunman. If others were involved it presumably could suggest a terrorist attack. At present, though, there is no strong evidence of others’ participation.

UPDATE: It’s now being reported that Hasan, a Muslim, posted favorable comments about suicide bombers on a web site. All of this is just one step above rumor, for now, however.

FURTHER UPDATE: A Lt. General giving a press conference says that, contrary to earlier reports, Major Hasan is alive. He also confirms that three other people have been taken into custody and interviewed, but says that indications are that Hasan was a “single shooter.”

MORE: The Associated Press reports that Hasan was investigated six months ago because of internet postings that praised Islamic suicide bombers:

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

“To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause,” said the Internet posting. “Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers.”

Again, this information is preliminary at best, especially since there are indications that two doctors, the shooter and someone completely unrelated, share the same name. More will be known before long.

Atlas Shrugs notes that the attacker “came to the attention of law enforcement at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats”

They knew this guy was a jihadi. They knew. But they sacrificed American lives at the alter political correctness. These religion of peaceniks are going to get us all killed.

Law enforcement officials say Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan came to their attention at least six months agon because of discussions of suicide bombings and other threats. And they left this jihad murderer there with our most precious resource? And then the first thing the FBI says is “its not terrorism”? We, the people, cannot no longer rely onlaw enforcement to keep us safe.They are the problem. Those brave soldiers are dead because of law enforcement. We, the people, have to be vigilant. The biggest terror attack on a US military base and the President is giving a shout out before making a statement?

AP source: Authorities had concerns about suspected shooter, reviewed Internet postings

WASHINGTON - Federal law enforcement officials say the suspected Fort Hood, Texas, shooter had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats.

The officials say the postings appeared to have been made by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who was killed during the shooting incident that left least 11 others dead and 31 wounded. The officials say they are still trying to confirm that he was the author. They say an official investigation was not opened.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Military officials say the suspected shooter at Fort Hood was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being transferred to the Texas base in July.

The officials had access to Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s military record. They said he received a poor performance evaluation while at Walter Reed.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because military records are confidential.

The Virginia-born soldier was single with no children. He was 39 years old.

He is a graduate of Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. At Walter Reed, he did his internship, residency and a fellowship.

Malik Nadal Hasan, the jihadi that led the attack on Fort Hood, was quoted as saying “Muslims have the right to rise up against theUS military ” …”The Muslims have a right to stand up against the aggressors” “….maybe we should have more of these where people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square”–quotes from Colonel Terry Lee

Update: Neighbors say he was giving away his possessions this morning and PASSING OUT QURANS. Newscaster: “he was proud of his religion”.

The son of a bitch is alive — can you believe it? He is in the hospital receiving the best medical care that your taxpayer dollars can buy………….. he is in stable condition. I am sure the libturd media will be lining up to get his sob story. CAIR must have lined up their Saudi financed legal team.

“Six months ago Major Hasan came to law enforcement attention for posting blogs supporting suicide bombing.”

This puts him in the pious Muslim category.

The investigation was dropped.

“Hasan, the alleged shooter, was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being sent to Texas in July. He was apparently upset about being scheduled to deploy overseas, according to Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas, who told Fox News that she was told he may have been targeting specific individuals.” (over at NPR) hat tip jj

A source tells NPR’s Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the time. NPR

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November 5, 2009 Posted by John at 6:53 PM

The question, obviously, is whether it was a terrorist attack, or just a disgruntled soldier who snapped. The gunman who murdered at least eleven people has been identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a psychiatrist who has been working at Walter Reed and was scheduled to be deployed to Iraq.

There have been reports that two other men were taken into custody, but they now have apparently been released. It's also being reported that a third man has been picked up for questioning. This seems odd, if Hasan was a lone gunman. If others were involved it presumably could suggest a terrorist attack. At present, though, there is no strong evidence of others' participation.

UPDATE: It's now being reported that Hasan, a Muslim, posted favorable comments about suicide bombers on a web site. All of this is just one step above rumor, for now, however.

FURTHER UPDATE: A Lt. General giving a press conference says that, contrary to earlier reports, Major Hasan is alive. He also confirms that three other people have been taken into custody and interviewed, but says that indications are that Hasan was a "single shooter."

MORE: The Associated Press reports that Hasan was investigated six months ago because of internet postings that praised Islamic suicide bombers:

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

Again, this information is preliminary at best, especially since there are indications that two doctors, the shooter and someone completely unrelated, share the same name. More will be known before long.

ANOTHER: The denizens of the Daily Kos weigh in from their perverse, anti-American perspective.

LAST ONE FOR TONIGHT: The Associated Press has a surprisingly balanced story on the murders, titled "Troubling protrait emerges of Army psychiatrist suspected in rampage at Fort Hood, Texas." It includes this item:

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

 
 
9>>Arab Street is Rejoicing at the Slaughter of US Soldiers
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10>>Major Muslim Hasan Advised Obama's Department of Homeland Security
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Neighbour (speaking to news journalists just now on Fox) to this monster says he had ALLAH written on his front door in arabic.

I'm so tired of the PC, walking on eggshells of the media and government officials. I have a friend on FB who was offended at Pamela's posts--saying they were hateful. Because we all know Islam is a peaceful religion and there are only a handful of extremists. And Christians kill in the name of God too. How long can I maintain the "Thumper Principle" --If you can't say something nice don't say nothin' at all. I struggle with this as a Christian but the ignorance of people is really getting under my skin.

This is the jihad against America.

Islam is the weapon of our enemy! What the hell are muslims doing "serving" in our military anyway??

This will be the death of America if we do not stop it now!

Islam is not compatible with America. It is here to destroy us.

Do what Thomas Jefferson would do -- Remove Them Now!

pamela:

passing out korans on the morning that he attacked?

advocating muslim soldiers to rise up against their aggressors?

and, the f.b.i. and the military say, no "terrorism" here, not at our shop.

as bugs bunny is wont to say, "it is to laugh, it is to cry."

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. a chinese graduate student behinds another chinese student at a student cafeteria at virginia tech. the murderer is from a muslim region of china, who hometown has a mosque hundreds fo years old.

a korean student, "ismael axe" shots 30+ people in classrooms at virginia tech, armed with a pistol, in 2007. every sign points to islam. and, every sign points to proficiency in the use of the firearms, and a calm, proficient executioner's style during the execution of the crimes.

a muslim psychiatrist, milak nadal hasan, shots 40+ people in an army assembly hall at fort hood, texas, armed with multiple pistols. every sign points to islam as the motivator, and every sign points to proficiency in hte use of multiple firearms, pistols it would apperr, and a calm, precise, premeditated selection of some of his victims, ... , in short, a proficient execution style during the commission of the crimes.

the psychiatrist is a graduate of virginia tech university.

i do not believe in coincidence, and of this is really quite amazing.

one is forced to ask, what in the hell is going on here at virginia tech university?

is there a mosque, or a teaching madrassa, or an imam, who is advocating jihad who happens to be a thread between all these people? an influential professor at virginia tech. a campus cleric? something is happening. there can be little doubt.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

The Military failed these dead and wounded soldiers, they failed them miserably and all in the name our Achilles tendon, the foolish perversion of multiculturalism and being politically correct when it comes to religions. Politicians failed them if they where okay with the Goldstone report, or if they like Obama helped to define any criticism of Islam as a hate crime. There is no doubt in my mind that we are being led by ignorant fools who buy into the myth that Islam is "the religion of peace". I am sick to death of having to be lead by these blind dhimmis that are in our military and our government.

We can pray for those that have been affected by this bastard. May those families find internal peace in the coming days.
He said he didn't want to go to war, yet that is EXACTLY what he did.

The military needs to begin relieving these people of their duties. The oath to this country is not as strong as the love for their brothers.

AMEN, Mackie!!

No longer shall we suffer these fools. Today Americans paid a visit to those we voted for to work for us, the people. They have been put on notice.

This is just the beginning.


Sorry, I forgot to mention.. what happened at Fort Hood today and Obamas limp wristed response to it will gurantee his possible call for martial law will fall on deaf ears.

It will also be the "final clause" in his presidency.

Watch the moonbats spin this as being the fault of Israel, given his parents are so-called "palestinians". You know the drill, our support of Israel made him angry at America.

Terrorist attack plain and simple. Pam, stay on the story (I know you will).. The media is going to go out of their way to cover this one up.

Pamela: Keep up the great work of exposing Islam as the psychotic death cult that it is. You hit the bullseye every day.

John Jay: How quickly people have forgotten the OU campus bomber.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1151

Amazing, one Muslim kills 12 Americans and wounds 31, and you've got CAIR going around portraying Americans as torch and pitchfork-wielding mobs ready to lynch Muslims across the nation. The sad part is that it will probably work, with the MSM and politicos spending the next week chanting en masse, 'Islam is a religion of peace', 'Islam had nothing to do with this', blah, blah, blah.

Ultimately, it will take the real world nightmare of a WMD being used in New York or Washington or Mumbai/Beslan style attack to wake up enough Americans from their PC-Multicultural reveries and dreams. If Britian is any measure of what America is facing, it took 7/7, the Glasgow bombing attempt, the attempt to explode mixed chemicals on planes in 2006, Richard Reid-the Shoe Bomber, attempts at bombing nightclubs, documentaries exposing the hate taught in mosques, and much more for Brits to wake up to the threat Islam poses to free men and women around the world. Even now, too much of Britan fantasizes that they can control the Islamic beast through appeasement. Let's hope America does not share the same fate.

heresiologician:

i typed your link into my command bar, brought it up & read it, and understand your point as extremely well taken. in this case, i did not forget the incident, i was simply unaware of it, it not having cracked the news casts or papers where i live.

yes, a cleric and a mosque, and young impressionable minds.

but, in this case, a 39 year old doctor, ... , seems extraordinary to us, that he would turn against his vows and the inculcation of his profession. but, heresiologician, do you remember the idiot doctors in england/scotland who tried to drive explosives laden cars into an airport terminal, to kill the people within.

apparently no muslim is resistant to the call of jihad.

so, i acknowledge your point, and understand it well taken.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. oops. correction from previous post:
--"beheads" for "behinds" (g_d only knows where my mind is. laughing.)
--"whose" for "who"
--"shoots" for "shots" (twice, ... , at least i am a consistent idiot.)

i am glad that people here read better than i write: it make up for some of my deficiencies. smiling.

We could see ten incidents like this every day for years and the media, politicians, CAIR, liberal academia, and clueless Hollywood types would still say "Islam is a religion of peace" while dissing pro-lifers and the Crusades. It's truly amazing.

When will our progressive, PC and enemy media finally admit they are wrong? When will our dhimmi president, Soros, and all the other progressive leftist movers and shakers in the USA see we are on a suicide course? Those soldiers would still be alive today if there were an ounce of honesty in the Obama administration.

What is it going to take? How many will have to die before our survival instincts kick in? How far is too far?

Demand an answer! We are not cannon fodder in someone's political chess game.

About CAIR, No apologies, no acts of sympathy or sadness towards the innocent young men murdered. They are completely silent on that account.

CAIR has gone into it's usual spin. They worry about backlash. This is all about them.


I'm so angry I could spit fire right now. All those beautiful young men gone. All their future children never to be born. The fruit of islam is death and destruction.

Emboldened by "their" President,and Hussein Obama's lick spittle subservience to Islamic Sociopaths Inc., aka "One of the great civilizing forces" Islam , The Religion of Peace,I guess this "Peace Loving" Muslim, simply could not contain the love and joy of allah held in his heart and had to share it with the infidels around him.

Hussein Obama has BLOOD on his hands, he has emboldened and enabled these Sociopathic Islamic scum, from the first day of his administration.

Hussein Obama, and his co conspiritors,the US Democrat Party, may not have pulled the trigger, but his / their heart's and mindset were there.

Damn you Hussein.

SHOULD HAVE READ "Emboldened by "their" President,Hussein Obama, AND HIS......

CBS had an "Exclusive" video in the 5:00AM newscast, of Hasan in a store dressed in a Muslim garb of a long white gown (I forgot the name) and a Muslim-type head covering.I wonder, how frequent that type of male dress is on our military bases in the US, Iraq, and Europe.
It was just 10-14 days ago we had an incident in Detroit. Let's see how often this happens from here on out.
Obama doesn't appear to be very upset to me.

Sorry to seem self-promoting, but I believe in this as a cause. The military, hardened realists as they are, will have to start to be culturist. They have to be leery of muslims in their midst with guns. They may want to profile or stop recruiting those with Islamic sentiments. This policy will immediately be called racist. This means they cannot discuss it openly. If the military used the correct word and called their discrimination culturist, perhaps people would understand. This is a matter of life and death. We need culturist policies now.

www.culturism.us

I went to bed after hearing a newswoman, middle aged white, chin length bob sorry i cant name her==interviewing a muslim 'chaplain' who said he has reports the jihadist was harrassed by fellow servicemen. The newswoman was saying to him Are you saying the military doesn't do enough to protect muslim servicemen? SICK And previous to this a family member proudly proclaimed there's religious freedom in USA and I couldnt generalize. So I had to go to bed after being chastized by a righteous one who thinks he's 'patriotic' because he defends islam. again SICK. i said its not just a religion. he said tell that to the Supreme Court. However, a relative of a friend was here earlier, really upset and saying the jihadist needs to be executed. You know those loopy 'ribbons' for every cause, how about a particular color for anti jihad. dont even need words so we know who's sane and who isnt

As I've posted before, there is just one way to attain peace at home, i.e., separation from Muslims. The only question is how?

We must take liberal democracy to more Muslim countries, one by one - freedom for women, gays and religious minorities. Who can oppose such a noble aim?

Support our effort to bring freedom to Islamic nations. It is the one hope we have at the moment.

Tragic as this incidence is, the prospect of Islam becoming dominant in any western nation is a catastrophe.

So we are taking the war to "Islamists" (PC language), in the noble certainty that our expenditure of blood and treasure in Iraq and Afghanistan, will bear fruit. We will take casualties for our efforts, in Iraq or Afghanistan, and worse, from Muslims who have been allowed to live in the West, as this incident shows. We will see infuriating demos by Muslims, against soldiers returning home to Britain, after heroic duties in Iraq or Afghanistan, helping Muslims turn to liberal democracy.

But we must persevere to the bitter end.

Our government profiles veterans who served their country and patriots who protest tyranny as threats. A muslim who cheers suicide bombers and sympathizes with terrorists in the War on Terror? Not so much. And the libs out there are all rushing to the side of the muslims, fretting "muslim backlash". How many muslims in America have been slaughtered since 9/11? Muslim backlash my ass, there are 13 dead American heroes and the leftards are all choked up about how muslims might be perceived! The left have their heads so far up their asses they can't see daylight.

I have just seen Geraldo on Fox dribbling a bib full of excuses for this Muslim Assassin, someone in the US please tell me what's the go?

He just stopped short of blaming the victims.

According to Geraldo all is well nothing to see here and gee these Muslims make up a great bunch of Americans.

INTERNMENT + DEPORTATION OF Muslims = A Return to pre Islamic Colonization of the Judeo Christian Western Democracies

The Koran is the ideology of Satan,The Prince of Darkness,Beelzebub,those who follow it's teachings and dictates are a danger in any civilized society,to those who have not been seduced by the evil of Islam.

I have just watched on Fox a woman talking head expert say in response to the host noting that this Hasan shouted out allah as he started to kill people,she replied that "well he had to call out something" in order to negate any connection with Islam.
I bet if they can find evidence he walked past a Catholic Church at some time in his life, that that will be put forward as the reason for his murderous savagery.

There is no spinning this one. CAIR has lost all credibility. ....and Keith Ellison's biggest worry is someone might yank his daughter's headscarf off? Jihad is here in the US, no matter what the Asshat in Chief and the Media says.

We all know followers of Islam have zero loyalty to any country. Their loyalty lies only with Islam and its teachings.


"We urge all Americans to remain calm in reaction to this tragic event and to demonstrate once again what is best about America -- our nation's ability to remain unified even in times of crisis," Awad said. "We urge national political and religious leaders and media professionals to set a tone of calm and unity.

I think CAIR needs to shut up! We'll handle this the way we see fit, not you. CAIR is the reason for this, go to hell CAIR!

I live north of Dallas a bit, not too far from McKinney (WELCOME PAMELA !!) and I love my soldiers who keep me safe, so I'm trying to keep up with this story. The most common theme I can find in the mainstream news is how much violence there is at Ft Hood. See FoxNews site. To their credit, they gave a little background on all the previous shooters, like the parolee from NY. Fights at parties. Can't help but notice we don't know where Spc. Armano Baca is from but know from EVERY single article, past and present his victim was from Wisconsin. There isn't a single mention of the guy who thought he'd blow up a Dallas skyscraper, or the Marines murdered in Arkansas. The spin on this will be so thick it will freeze solid. Then we can all cower at CAIR's threats of law suits!! Oh no!! Save me, please - not LAW SUITS !! NOT SCARY CAIR !!! We're sorry !! Please don't get MAD at us !!

Probably, Hasan will sue. America made him do it.

NEVER thought I'd think America was cowardly.

Conservatives harass people different than themselves until they are driven crazy. Then conservatives feel sorry for themselves. There really isn't a whole lot of reality in your world. Is there?

"Unfortunately, based on past experience, we also urge American Muslims, and those who may be perceived to be Muslim, to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their religious institutions from possible backlash."

When there is an American backlash, you'll know it. The world will know it.

Ladies and Gentlemen - I give you REALITY !!!

"Conservatives harass people different than themselves until they are driven crazy. Then conservatives feel sorry for themselves. There really isn't a whole lot of reality in your world. Is there?"
Posted by: cat007 | Friday, November 06, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Certainly not your kind of reality, praise the merciful God. If this is what you truly believe, you should put your money, and your life, where your mouth is. Sign up and serve your cause, o wise one. Embrace reality, in a real sort of way. Then demand that those in the military and those with families, jobs and some self discipline, bail your "reality" ass out of whatever idiot's paradise you've gotten yourself into - kidnapped by Jihadists? No just reporting how conservatives oppress the Taliban. But that soldier better doubletime it to give his life to rescue the idiot liberal reporter's ass AFTER he was warned not to go there. Gotta give every dead beat in the country a mortgage and pay gay activists enough to get rich and powerful doin' it, and borrow the money from countries who envy our wealth and desire our downfall, all at the same time? Hell, yes - but those who want to pay their bills and raise their kids wind up paying for it. What reality are you referring to? President Oblithering idiot's idea of economics? Foriegn policy? I'd say probably not, I doubt you could define any of them. Your reality means that you can do anything or anybody, in anyway possible with no restraint or consequences. That's your reality, until it doesn't work. Then you scream foul and SAVE ME SAVE ME. You're pathetic.

A recent poll said that conservatives were occasionally disgusted with or by some things. Liberals were almost NEVER EVER disgusted by anything at all. Well, guess what? Idiot.

 

 
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Fort Hood gunman worked at Walter Reed
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Fort Hood gunman worked at Walter Reed

By: Scott McCabe
Examiner Staff Writer
November 6, 2009

Army major Nidal Malik Hasan, identified by Texas officials as the gunman, was wounded during the shooting. Eleven other victims were killed, 31 were wounded. Hasan is in Army hospital custody.

The military psychiatrist accused of gunning down 12 people in Texas lived most of his life in the D.C. area where he was considered a caring Muslim by friends -- but he had recently made disturbing statements about suicide attacks.

U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, earned a degree from Virginia Tech, completed a residency at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and attended prayer services nearly every day in Silver Spring for several years.

He was described as a caring person by a local Muslim leader, but those who got to know him after he was transferred to Fort Hood in July recalled hearing disturbing statements that foreshadowed Monday's violence.

Nidal Malik Hasan
» 39 years old
» Born in Virginia
» Single with no children » Had been a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being transferred to Fort Hood in July.
» Graduated from Virginia Tech with a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry in 1997.
» Received a medical degree in 2001 and a master’s degree in public health last year from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda.

Six months ago Hasan came to the attention of the FBI because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings.

After lauding a Muslim U.S. Army soldier who killed comrades in Kuwait in 2003, Hasan wrote in an online posting, "If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers ... that would be considered a strategic victory."

Ishtiaq Chughtai, the president of the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, said Hasan attended prayers daily, often in his uniform, and showed no signs that he was conflicted about being deployed.

"It's very sad for our people, the American people," Chughtai said. "This is a tragedy that's going to stay in the back of our minds for a long time."

Hasan attended the Muslim center for about six years and seemed like a good person, Chughtai said. He gave people rides home and sometimes the money from his pocket.

But things appeared to go wrong for Hasan near the end of his time at Walter Reed. He received a poor evaluation while there.

At Fort Hood, Hasan exhibited a troubled state of mind. Retired Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at the psych ward at Fort Hood, told Fox News that about six months ago he heard Hasan say, "Maybe the Muslims should rise up and fight against the aggressor," in Iraq and Afghanistan -- referring to the U.S. Army.

Hasan earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997 from Virginia Tech, where he was a member of the ROTC.

He attended grad school in Bethesda at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences F. Edward Herbert School of Medicine.

In 2007, he completed a residency in psychiatry at Walter Reed and just wrapped up a fellowship in disaster and preventive psychiatry, also at Walter Reed.

According to records, Hasan is a U.S. citizen and was registered to vote in 2001 and 2004 in Virginia, with an address in Vinton. He had also lived in Montgomery County, Arlington and Roanoke, Va.

In April 2008, Hasan was a participant in George Washington University's Homeland Security Policy Institute task force that aimed at providing advice on security to the new administration.

The group met until January of this year and forwarded recommendations on to President Obama.

The Virginia-born soldier is single with no children.

Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson said Hasan's family was originally from Jordan. He was scheduled to be deployed and he was upset about that, she said.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

smccabe@washingtonexaminer.com

 

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Pamela

Nov 6, 2009

What did any right minding person think would happen? You have a Muslim psychiatrist hearing of how his 'brothers' are being gunned down by American's in horrific ways. Hasan is loyal to the Muslims ways. Virginia is the biggest home of Muslims. Come on put the math together and add it all up...

 

greg

Nov 6, 2009

What did any right minding person think would happen? You have a White psychiatrist hearing of how his 'brothers' are being gunned down by Muslims in horrific ways. The man is loyal to the American ways. Virginia is the biggest home of Whites. Come on put the math together and add it all up...to folks like you.

See how ridiculous you sound? Oh the FOX Nation is so dangerous


 
 
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Fort Hood shooting

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Fort Hood shooting
Location Fort Hood, Texas
Date November 5, 2009
ca. 1:30 p.m. (
CST)
Attack type Mass murder, spree killing
Death(s) 13[1]
Injured 30[1]
Suspected perpetrator Major Nidal Malik Hasan

The Fort Hood shooting was a spree killing that occurred on Thursday, November 5, 2009, at Fort Hood, a United States Army post in Texas. Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist stationed at the Killeen U.S. Army base, is alleged to have entered the Soldier Readiness Center, opening fire at approximately 1:30 p.m. (local time), and killing 13 people and wounding 30 others.

Hasan was then shot four times by police and seriously injured. Following the shooting, Hasan was hospitalized on a ventilator,[2] under heavy guard, and authorities had not yet determined the motivation for the shooting.

Hasan had come to the attention of federal authorities at least six months before the attacks because of internet postings he may have made discussing suicide bombings[3] and other threats.[4]

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Killeen, Texas, the location of the Fort Hood army post

According to news reports, Major Hasan entered the Soldier Readiness Center – a complex used to process soldiers before and after deployment – at approximately 1:30 p.m. (CST) and opened fire with two handguns on a crowd gathered 30 minutes before a scheduled college graduation ceremony for soldiers and family members.[5] Soldiers who witnessed the shooting reported that Hasan shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire.[6] Thirteen people (twelve soldiers and one civilian) were killed;[7] eleven people died at the scene and the twelfth[8] and thirteenth[9] later in the hospital. Thirty-one others were wounded before Hasan was shot at least four times by a local police officer, Kimberly Munley, who was herself shot in the leg by Hasan.[2][10] Contrary to initial reports he was not killed in the incident, and was hospitalized in stable condition.[1]

Initially, three soldiers were believed to have been involved in the shooting; two soldiers were initially detained but subsequently released. The Fort Hood website posted a notice that indicated that the shooting was not a drill. Immediately after the shooting, the base and surrounding areas, including a number of local schools, were locked down with military police and SWAT teams. The lockdown lasted about five hours and by 7 p.m. local time was lifted.[11] In addition, FBI agents were called in from Austin and Waco,[12] and Texas Rangers were dispatched.[13] United States President Barack Obama was briefed on the incident, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters. President Obama later held a press conference about the shooting.[1]

[edit] Suspect

Nidal Malik Hasan
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Hasan in 2007
Place of birth Virginia
Service/branch United States Army
*Medical Corps
Years of service 1988-Present
Rank Major
Unit Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences
Walter Reed Medical Center
Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, age 39, was a U.S. Army psychiatrist at the time of the shooting. In July 2009 he had been transferred to Fort Hood from Washington's Walter Reed Medical Center.[1]

[edit] Early life and education

Hasan described himself as being of Palestinian descent as his mother was born in Palestine.[14] His parents migrated to the U.S. from a small Palestinian town near Jerusalem.[15] He was born in Virginia, where he grew up. He joined the army immediately after high school, and in exchange the army paid for him to go to college and subsequently to medical school.[15] Hasan graduated in 1995 from Virginia Tech with a bachelor's degree in biochemistry and in 2003 from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences with a medical degree (M.D.), and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.[16][17] In 2009, he completed a fellowship in Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry at the Center for Traumatic Stress.[18]

[edit] Recent events

Hasan was promoted from Captain to Major in May 2009.[18][19] Before being transferred to Fort Hood in July 2009, Hasan had received a poor performance evaluation.[4]

According to Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Virginia, he had sought for several years to receive a discharge, due to harassment relating to his religion, Islam. An Army spokesman could not confirm the aunt's statement.[20]

Hasan had come to the attention of federal authorities at least six months before the attacks because of internet postings he may have made discussing suicide bombings[3] and other threats. However, it remains unclear whether he was the author of the posts, and no official investigation was opened.[4]

According to retired Colonel Terry Lee, "He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor. At first we thought he meant help the armed forces, but apparently that wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments we shouldn't be in the war in the first place."[21]

Hasan was about to be deployed, whether to Iraq or Afghanistan is unclear,[22] on November 28. According to Jeff Sadoski, spokesperson of U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, "Hasan was upset about his deployment".[17] Hasan's cousin, Nader Hasan, a lawyer in Virginia, said that Nidal Hasan turned against the wars after hearing the stories of those who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq.[23] Noel Hamad said, however, that the family did not know he was being sent to Iraq. "He didn't tell us he was going to deploy," she said.[24]

Faizul Khan, the former imam of a mosque in Silver Spring, Maryland, where Hasan prayed several times a week, said he was "a reserved guy with a nice personality. We discussed religious matters. He was a fairly devout Muslim."[14]

According to his cousin, Nidal Hasan was a practicing Muslim who had become more devout after the deaths of his parents in 1998 and 2001.[15] However, his cousin does not recall him ever expressing any radical or anti-American views.[15] The cousin claimed that Hasan had been harassed by his Army colleagues because of his Middle Eastern ethnicity. Said the cousin, "He was dealing with some harassment from his military colleagues. I don’t think he’s ever been disenchanted with the military. It was the harassment. He hired a military attorney to try to have the issue resolved, pay back the government, to get out of the military. He was at the end of trying everything."[25]

A convenience store security video reportedly showed Hasan wearing a traditional salwar kameez. The garment is predominantly worn in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but not in Jordan or Palestine where Hasan had ancestral ties. Hasan wore all white, which is traditionally associated with death and mourning in Islam.[26][27] Additionally, the morning of the shooting Hasan gave away furniture from his home, saying he was going to be deployed on friday. He also was handing out copies of the Quran.[28]

According to some sources, Hasan is single with no children.[29][30] However, a former neighbor of Hasan, David Cook, said two sons were living with Hasan at that time, around 1997, and they attended local schools. Cook said of him, "As far as I know, he was a single father. I never saw a wife."[14] According to military records Hasan was unmarried.[31]

[edit] Victims

As of midday November, 6, 2009, the casualty count was 13 people killed, 12 soldiers and one civilian, and 28 wounded.[31] Ten of the wounded survivors of the shooting were treated at Scott & White Memorial Hospital, a Level 2 trauma center in Temple, Texas.[32] All of them had gunshot wounds.[32] Seven more were taken to Metroplex Adventist Hospital in Killeen.[32] Another wounded victim, Kimberly Munley [33] a civilian police officer working on the base, who is credited with shooting the suspect, was originally reported to have been killed.[12] At least ten of the dead were soldiers.[1] The first reported fatality is Army PFC Michael Pearson. [34]

[edit] Response

Lieutenant General Robert W. Cone, commanding officer of Fort Hood, called the attack "a terrible tragedy, stunning", saying the base community was "absolutely devastated."[35] Meanwhile, a spokesman for the Defense Department called the shooting an "isolated and tragic case."[36] and Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, "I can pledge that the Department of Defense will do everything in its power to help the Fort Hood community get through these difficult times."[37] The chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee Carl Levin said "Our hearts go out to the families of the brave Americans who lost their lives in today's senseless violence at Fort Hood, Texas, and to those who were injured."[37] The Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned the shooting,[38] expressing prayers for the victims and condolences for their families.[39]

Other military bases increased security in the hours after the shooting.[40][41][42]

Within minutes of the incident becoming public, President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and former president George W. Bush, issued statements of support and sympathy for the victims. Obama described the incident as "tragic" and "a horrific outburst of violence" in a press conference in Washington, D.C. going on to say, "It is difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women abroad, but it is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on U.S. soil." "My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and the families of the fallen," he said. Obama also offered his help to Cone.[1] His statement was preceded by Joe Biden who said "Jill and I join the President and Michelle Obama in expressing our sympathies to the families of the brave soldiers who fell today. We are all praying for those who were wounded and hoping for their full and speedy recovery. Our thoughts and prayers are also with the entire Fort Hood community as they deal with this senseless tragedy",[43] while Bush said he "was saddened to learn of the tragic incident at Fort Hood. Laura Bush and I are keeping the victims and their families in our thoughts and prayers during this difficult time."[37] Texas Senators Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn each issued messages expressing their shock and sympathy at the shooting.[12][44]

 

 
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Malik Hasan Cousin, Nader Hasan, Interviewed By Fox News: "He Was A Good American" (VIDEO)


First Posted: 11- 5-09 07:44 PM   |   Updated: 11- 5-09 09:07 PM

 

Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by Hasan's actions and that Hasan was a "good American":

Both his parents are American, I want to make sure everyone understands, he was a good American, and we are shocked. We just found out from the news that he was being deployed [to Iraq]. He never even told us. We've known for the last five years that that was probably his worst nightmare. He deals with stories, he would tell us how he hears horrific things, but even before, things from before that was probably affecting him psychologically.

Hasan's cousin related that he had "been making requests since sometime after September 11th" not to be deployed to Iraq, and that Hasan had been trying to leave the military:

He was dealing with harassment from some of his colleagues to the extent where he hired a military attorney to have the issue resolved, pay back the government to get out of the military if that was it, but he was at the end of trying everything to make everybody fair and reasonable and him get out the situation, so I'm really shocked and baffled and if anybody wants to try to suggest that it has something else to do with being afraid of wanting to go to war, that's it.

Hasan's cousin said that he joined the military "right out of high school" and "against his parents' wishes."

Contrary to prior reports, Hasan has "always been Muslim" and is not a recent convert.

Hasan's cousin said "our family is feeling sadness, we feel so much sadness for any family who was hurt."

WATCH: (H/t Jon)

Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by ...
Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by ...


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First Posted: 11- 5-09 07:44 PM   |   Updated: 11- 5-09 09:07 PM

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Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by Hasan's actions and that Hasan was a "good American":

Both his parents are American, I want to make sure everyone understands, he was a good American, and we are shocked. We just found out from the news that he was being deployed [to Iraq]. He never even told us. We've known for the last five years that that was probably his worst nightmare. He deals with stories, he would tell us how he hears horrific things, but even before, things from before that was probably affecting him psychologically.

Hasan's cousin related that he had "been making requests since sometime after September 11th" not to be deployed to Iraq, and that Hasan had been trying to leave the military:

He was dealing with harassment from some of his colleagues to the extent where he hired a military attorney to have the issue resolved, pay back the government to get out of the military if that was it, but he was at the end of trying everything to make everybody fair and reasonable and him get out the situation, so I'm really shocked and baffled and if anybody wants to try to suggest that it has something else to do with being afraid of wanting to go to war, that's it.

Hasan's cousin said that he joined the military "right out of high school" and "against his parents' wishes."

Contrary to prior reports, Hasan has "always been Muslim" and is not a recent convert.

Hasan's cousin said "our family is feeling sadness, we feel so much sadness for any family who was hurt."

WATCH: (H/t Jon)

Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by ...
Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan, one of the gunmen in the Fort Hood massacre, spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone tonight and went out of his way to stress his family is shocked by ...


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Why did his cousin keep saying the shooter is "a good American"? Is that just denial?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 11/06/2009

The more of this that comes out, the more this will have been about his faith. The fact is he was to be deployed, but not to an area that was in conflict. The fact is the FBI had been wanting to seize his computer to see if he had written some comments about how great suicide bombers are. This is going to be very messy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 11/06/2009
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I strategically did not turn on the television ayer so I missed this entire story........but, it sounds very sad and tragic.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 11/06/2009
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I guess the army is so desperate that they are willing to keep a known anti war doctor who had previously made statements that ought to have caused him to land in the brig a long time ago. He should have been stopped six months ago.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 11/06/2009
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We allow doctors to choose not to perform certain procedures because of their personal beliefs. Maybe this wouldn't have happened if we had a policy that included not sending any unwilling soldier into war. These are extraordinary events, but it seems abundantly clear that his fellow officers and other doctors knew that there were potential problems brewing inside the accused shooter. I can't believe that anyone spewing anti American policy inside the military was ever in a position to do an act like this.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 11/06/2009
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It sounds like he snapped when he couldn't find a way out of his commitment. Although I believe what he did was despicable to the nth degree, I'm praying for all those affected, including his family.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 11/06/2009
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I can't stop crying over this story. The wars need to be over, and the soldiers all need to come home. More than 8 years with this is too much. There will always be bad people, we can't deal with every situation with war. war= we are right

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 11/06/2009
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Terrorist act by a religious fundamentalist . Question his sanity and motives all you like but basically he was following in the spirit and mindset of the 911 hijackers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 11/06/2009
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Interesting how the cousin got off the phone as soon as Shepard Smith asked him about the family heratige. It really shouldn't matter where his family is from. The cousin was not going to get bullied and go down that road.

The fact that he's a devout Muslim is much more relevant since that religeous beliefs can lead to extremism and violence. However, which country his parents come from is not relevant at all.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 AM on 11/06/2009
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I'm so very sorry for the families of his victims. And I hope he can explain why he did this - I hope he survives.

I think probably the worst thing that will come out of this will be the extreme cranking-up of hate from the far-right-wing extremists who will use the whole 'Muslim' angle to justify their xenophobia and bigotry.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 11/06/2009
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Grateful for your post; I concur, on all points.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 11/06/2009
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Reports suggest he did what he did at least in part as a result of his particular faith. Many violent acts have been done in the name of Christianity, too. It really is time to get past this "religion of peace" crap. The scriptures of either religion can easily be interpreted to condone violence against non-believers. I'm certainly glad not all faithful people do, but it is simply not valid to say the peaceful ones are the "true" believers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 11/06/2009
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It doesn't have to do with faith, it has to do with certainty. Fundamentalists see no gray and believe they are right. They have to defend what they are certain is the truth.

The definition of faith though is, "I don't know for sure, so I'll suspend logic and believe this." Within that definition is room for doubt.

We see certainty as a weapon against fear. Fundamentalist leaders use fear to unite their followers and certainty to arm them.

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This is very bizarre and so extreme. Maybe we'll find out more, but I wonder why a military officer who treats soldiers with PTSD and other mental illness, felt so afraid of being deployed to Iraq. He would have known that some time ago US troops had been withdrawn from the cities, where the violence is happening still. He probably would have been safely ensconced in an Army base. What was the source of the paranoia? And why would he express his outrage by killing other innocent military men, many of whom are destined for a similar assignment, or much more dangerous? And why did the Army's chain of command not raise a red flag, especially when an outspoken Muslim man got upset with his commission?

On a side note, Gore Vidal thinks Timothy McVeigh was a "good American". Twisted logic, IMO.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 11/06/2009

I don't accept that he was "afraid" to go. Rather he heard all the horror stories from his patients. I am sure he didn't want to be exposed to all that personally. Specially since he was of middle eastern ethnicity, and it would be easier for him to identify with the people we are killing and maiming.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 11/06/2009
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The legacy of Boosh's illegal war continues to unfold, creating pains and sufferings.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 11/06/2009

Five years of listening to horrific accounts of a brutal and terrifying war could tip a lot of people. He's a complicated human being like the rest of us.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 11/05/2009
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man, this is just plain bad news all around.

wonder why he had to leave so abruptly.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 11/05/2009
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ironic, he should have declared himself gay, he would have been kicked right out of the military.



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