z53\doc\web\2001\10\scichin.txt posted by Gregory Cochran on h-bd 10/2001: I'm fairly sure I know the origin of this stuff: Jon Miller has been running this kind of survey for years now, in the US, the EU, and Japan, and I have a bunch of it filed. I have an English version of the quiz - it's fairly obvious that the quiz was developed by a sociologist or other non-scientist, since the questions are often imprecise. But the results are loads of fun! I remember the details of the solar system question ( I can dig up more but this should give the flavor): The first part asks whether the Earth goes around the Sun or the Sun goes around the Earth. The second part ( asked of those who get the first part right, which is about two-thirds of the US sample) asks the how long itt akes for the Earth to go around the Sun. It's multiple choice - you pick a day, a week, a month, or a year. About two-thirds pick a year. The fraction of the US sample that got both parts right is just under 50%. Given that only 40% of the Chinese sample gets the first part right, the percentage getting both parts right is probably a third or less. Actually, considering that there are only two choices in the first part of the question, the Chinese would do better by random guessing - i.e. on average they know less than nothing. A honking 52% of people in the EU get both parts of the solar system question right. But on questions in general, the EU as a whole usually does significantly. worse than the US. For example a much higher fraction of Europeans believe that astrology is valid. England and Denmark did slightly better than the US, everyone else in the EU did worse, often a lot worse. In the earlier studies, Miller defined ' scientific literacy' as getting 75% or better correct on these kind of 4th grade questions, cool stuff like ' Lasers work by focusing sound waves, true or false? ' 6% of adult American scored that high or higher: 7% of Englishmen and Danes: 4% of Germans; I think the Japanese did less well than the US or Great Britain, but the test there had some differences. On the same scale the Chinese have a 1.4% pass rate. Sounds about right. Miller's analysis: women do worse than men, high school courses make no difference, scores increase until the late 40s, taking a single college science course is a bigger plus than a BS; working at a technical company is a plus. Gregory Cochran