X-Sender: SteveSlr@aol.com X-Apparently-To: h-bd@egroups.com Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 13:16:49 EST Subject: [h-bd] Gays and lisping Here's a private message from a best selling cognitive scientist / linguist / evolutionary psychologist in response to my article on Al Gore's quasi-lisp (the "hissy S" sound): A source of insight on male/female/gay patterns in language might come from Robin Lakoff's old book "Language and Women's Place." (Lakoff was Deborah Tannen's graduate advisor.) Once you strip off the tendentious feminist argumentation, you find a lot of insight into what we perceive as feminine and masculine ways of talking, which in turn can partly be captured in terms of dominance. Feminine speech is submissive speech (needless to say, not all females speak with the characteristic feminine pattern). Characteristically gay speech is in some ways exaggerated (supernormal) feminine speech - imagine the continuum morphing from M to F, and then extrapolate it a bit past F. (This is true for some, not all, gay speech patterns.) One of the patterns is precise, hyperarticulated speech (possibly a polite, hence submissive, reflex - make it as easy as possible for your listener). A hissy "s" is acoustically a more distinctive "s," because it is less confusable with "f," "th," "sh," "t," and so on. So if gay speech is exaggerated feminine speech, which is overly polite and hence overly enunciated speech, the mystery of the gay hissy "s" is solved.