Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:35:19 EDT Subject: [h-bd] IQ: Bush vs. Gore Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: Steve Sailer here: We've been over this ground before in H-Bd, but if you'd care to offer any responses that I could quote (with attribution) in a UPI news story, please read the questions below. -- Steve Sailer First, the known numbers: Al Gore: SAT: Verbal 625; Math 730 = 1355 (old style) Advanced tests: Physics 488 Chem 519 English 705 History 701 IQ scores were 133, 134 at the two ends of Prep School. (134 is 98.8th percentile) Class Rank at St. Alban's 25/51; grades mostly not that good although did get a cum laude at Harvard. George W. Bush SAT score: Verbal = 566, Math = 640, total = 1206 (old style) Charles Murray estimates IQ from SAT score as around 126 (95.8th percentile Bill Bradley (defeated by Gore in Democratic primaries) SAT Verbal = 485. Math is unknown. John McCain (defeated by Bush in Republican primaries) Fifth from bottom of his Naval Academy class, due, he says, to bad behavior and bad grades in math and science. Questions (please answer whatever you feel like). 1. Gore is generally stereotyped as inhumanly brilliant, Bush as a genial dimwit. Do these test scores support those cliches? 2. It is universally believed that Bush could not get into Yale without his family connections. What are the odds that Gore would not have gotten into Harvard without his father's pull? 3. Where would you estimate these two men's IQ's would fall relative to other Presidents? 4. Is there much correlation between a high IQ and a successful Presidency? 5. Is there a minimum cutoff for IQ for the Presidency, below which it would be difficult to function? 6. Does the constant derision of Bush's IQ by liberals imply that they now accept that IQ plays a highly important role, as suggested by such researchers as Arthur Jensen and Charles Murray? 7. What do you see implied about the structure of the two men's intellects, their strength's and weaknesses in specific areas. 8. Do you think the much celebrated Bill Bradley's surprisingly low Verbal SAT score helps explain his unexpectedly lackluster performance against Gore? 9. In one of his science fiction novels, Robert Heinlein suggested that leaders shouldn't have IQ's more than 30 points higher than the average of their followers. How true is this rule of thumb? Is it relevant to Presidential politics? 10. Bush doesn't mention it a lot since he doesn't like to call attention to the fact that he spent the Vietnam War in the Texas Air National Guard, but he qualified as a jet fighter pilot. If you've seen data on fighter pilots, what is their typical IQ range? What kind of intellectual demands does the job make? Any other thoughts, especially questions that I should be asking but haven't, please add in here. -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/14/_/64659/_/971454925/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> How to contribute to H-Bd: 1. To reply privately to just the sender of this message, click the "Reply" button on your email package. 2. To reply publicly to the entire H-Bd list, click the "Reply All" (or equivalent) button on your email package. 3. To start a thread, email your message to h-bd@egroups.com . To unsubscribe, send a blank email to h-bd-unsubscribe@egroups.com .