z42\doc\web\2000\05\nazied.txt To: From: "Susan Trout" Date sent: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:28:13 -0700 Send reply to: wa-ed-deform@egroups.com Subject: Re: [wa-ed-deform] Puget Sound Energy's Hidden Database [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Regarding PSE's Hidden Data Base: > > From: Julanne Burts >From: Susan Trout [mailto:sjtrout@earthlink.net] That is an understatement. The kids were taught to tattle on their families. >>From: John Hall ...I am a little interested in why Hitler was chosen for the comparison rather than Stalin or Mao. The tactics you described were much more prevalent in the latter two instances ************ Hi John, I'm glad you asked why Hitler was the chosen example. It is because he used the United States as his model and made no bones about it. Hitler learned from and respected(?) the United States for the way it had handled the "American Indian problem" of the late 1800s and he applied that education technique to Germany.* "Let the children come unto me - for they are mine unto death!" Adolph Hitler. I recommend an out-of-print book titled Education for Death the Making of the Nazi which was published by Oxford University Press in 1941. The author was Gregor Ziemer who resided in Berlin from the late 1920s. By 1933 he was interested in what was going on in the Nazi schools and education centers. He worked in Berlin as president of the American Colony School, under the patronage of the US Ambassador and the American Consul General, and this position worked in his favor as he pursued finding out about Nazi education. Due to problems with the German boys at the Volkschule across the street from the American School, Ziemer started education conversations with the Rector. Next he was given permission to go to the Schulrat, and from there was given permission to contact the Minister of Education who provided extraordinary access to the German education system in printed materials AND in the application of these tools to the young minds of the children. Ziemer was granted permission to travel, visiting schools and interviewing teachers and students about anything he could think of; providing he did not interfere with the education process. According to Ziemer the Nazi school was an auxiliary of the army and its secrets of education were guarded as if they were military secrets. All along the way was the spy system...tattle, tattle, tattle; most tattling at college level. The women of the NSV, National Socialist Welfare Organization-Hitler's home army, whose insignia symbolized conception- sent interviewers to parents to make certain babies, toddlers, preschoolers were learning Nazi doctrine; children being checked on before the schools took them over. Preschoolers were interviewed while parents were away from home; better to get information and to find out more. Day care provided for working families, the education provided to the preschoolers promoted Hitler; co-education was permitted under age 4 but not over. The NSV had the child to age 6. A boy became a Pimpfe, a Little Fellow, at 6, leaving at 10. Girls 6-14 were Jungmaedel. Jungvolk were boys 10-16. BDM, League of German Girls, were girls 14-20 Hitler Youth were boys 14-18 Then there were the University students where the spy system was rampant. It was good, right, and expected that Hitler's children spy on everyone. ...He learned it all from the U.S. of A's great successes(?)...admired us for what and how it was done...even said so...duplicated the program...was highly successful with the application...that is why Hitler was the example. (*See www.thewinds.org index, weapons of mass destruction, part 3 in particular, for more information as this parallels America today. Parts 1,2,4,5 are also good reading.)