SAILOR SAYS POST WWII CHINESE HAD MORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS z40\doc\web\2000\04\namesay.txt At 10:37 PM 18/04/2000 Tuesday-0400, steveslr@aol.com wrote: Nathaniel Weyl's massive studies >of achievement in America by tracking last names found that the last >names heavily represented in first wave of Chinese immigrants (e.g., the >ones who helped build the transcontinental railway) showed fewer >accomplishments per capita in the 1980s than the Chinese last names that >only appeared in significant numbers in America post WWII. The earlier >group were recruited from the ranks of laborers, the second group was >self-selected from the ranks of Nationalist government officials, the >well-educated, and so forth. The same pattern appeared among Hungarians >immigrants. The descendants of the first wave of 100 years ago were less >distinguished than the second wave that came to America after the >attempted revolt of 1956 (e.g., Andy Grove of Intel). To: h-bd@egroups.com Date sent: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:37:30 EDT From: steveslr@aol.com Subject: Re: IQ and Immigration Again {Re: Re: [h-bd] re: Evolution of Running Differ... [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] jvcguest@vicnet.net.au writes: > This seems an opportune time to ask again whether there is any > significant > data on the effect of (im)migration on average IQ levels. I suspect that immigrants tend to be above average risk takers, but IQ depends on the circumstances. For example, Nathaniel Weyl's massive studies of achievement in America by tracking last names found that the last names heavily represented in first wave of Chinese immigrants (e.g., the ones who helped build the transcontinental railway) showed fewer accomplishments per capita in the 1980s than the Chinese last names that only appeared in significant numbers in America post WWII. The earlier group were recruited from the ranks of laborers, the second group was self-selected from the ranks of Nationalist government officials, the well-educated, and so forth. The same pattern appeared among Hungarians immigrants. The descendants of the first wave of 100 years ago were less distinguished than the second wave that came to America after the attempted revolt of 1956 (e.g., Andy Grove of Intel). In contrast, you can also see IQ levels decline over time among the immigrants from a particular nation. Several sources have said that the Asian Indian immigrants of the Nineties are less educated than Indian immigrants of the Seventies. Regression to the mean is built into the 1965 American immigration law: the first immigrants from a particular land need to convince an American company that they are worth hiring and the company needs to convince the INS that they have such high skills that Americans with the same talents aren't available. But, those immigrants are then free to bring in their ne'er-do-well relations. This would also suggest that risk-taking declines as well, since migrating to a country where you have lots of relatives to give you a job is less risky than setting off on your own into the unknown. Obviously, we could set up an immigration system that would bring in a much higher proportion of high IQ immigrants. Perhaps Ron would like to lead a reform movement? Steve Sailer www.iSteve.com President, Human Biodiversity Institute